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post #1 of 21
2/8/07 at 10:52pm
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http://creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=2156

Let's not do the Saw III debate thing. Just curious how receptive horror fans would be to any kind of musical? They seem to think this is an incredibly original idea? I'm not sure it'll work and I have a strong hatred for Rocky Horror Picture Show. That's not to say I'm against the musical in general. There are several I enjoy but this seems like it could be hit or miss but I think Darren Lynn Bousman could become a great genre director and he's definately taking a chance on somehting he really loves. Yay or nay guys?
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post #2 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:29pm
I despise musicals. it's just so unnatural for people to just break into song during an otherwise dramatic scene of dialogue. I go get a snack when Aretha sings 'Respect" during the Blues Brothers. And I can't sit through Rocky Horror, either. I frankly can't imagine anyone taking a horror misical seriously. We have enough trouble as a genre in that regard as it is. We don't need silliness like this making it worse.
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post #3 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:32pm
I too have a dislike for musicals, the only one that I can say that actually like is South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut. But I do think that the story could work if it wasn't a musical.
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post #4 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:42pm
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that buffy musical episode was awesome.
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post #5 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:47pm
Well, from the sound of it I don't think this is supposed to be a "serious" film, so it shouldn't be a problem. I love musicals and love horror, so someone putting those things together definitely has me intrigued. At least it'll be something different.
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post #6 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:47pm
It was alright.
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post #7 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:49pm
DePalma's Phantom of the Paradise can't be fucked with.
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post #8 of 21
2/8/07 at 11:59pm
[QUOTE=IggytheBorg]I despise musicals. it's just so unnatural for people to just break into song during an otherwise dramatic scene of dialogue. I go get a snack when Aretha sings 'Respect" during the Blues Brothers. And I can't sit through Rocky Horror, either.QUOTE]

Watch Hedwig & The Angry Inch then get back to me.
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post #9 of 21
2/9/07 at 12:12am
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
I go get a snack when Aretha sings 'Respect" during the Blues Brothers.
That's a quick snack since Aretha doesn't sing "Respect" in Blues Brothers.

Unless, you meant Blues Brothers 2000 where she does sing it, but I wouldn't admit to ever having seen that... crap, I just did...
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post #10 of 21
2/9/07 at 12:38am
I am going to smack the next person who brings up "Once More With Feeling" as an example of a great musical. I am as big a Buffy fan as anyone, but come on! [/GOB]

Iggy, go find yourself the original cast recording to "Company." You won't regret it.
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post #11 of 21
2/9/07 at 12:51am
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Originally Posted by Logo Lou
That's a quick snack since Aretha doesn't sing "Respect" in Blues Brothers.

Unless, you meant Blues Brothers 2000 where she does sing it, but I wouldn't admit to ever having seen that... crap, I just did...
You're correct; I meant 'Think' . I wasn't even aware that 'Respect' was in BB2K, since I can honestly say I'VE nevr seen it.
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post #12 of 21
2/9/07 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
I despise musicals. it's just so unnatural for people to just break into song during an otherwise dramatic scene of dialogue. I go get a snack when Aretha sings 'Respect" during the Blues Brothers. And I can't sit through Rocky Horror, either. I frankly can't imagine anyone taking a horror misical seriously. We have enough trouble as a genre in that regard as it is. We don't need silliness like this making it worse.
So you're a fan of a genre in which people typically do everything they can to put themselves in danger, where they'll do anything but run away or call the police, but you don't like musicals because people don't behave naturally.

There's nothing wrong with not liking musicals, but that's a weak argument. Horror is no more "natural" a genre than musicals. If you only like movies in which people behave naturally, you're narrowing the field pretty drastically.

And I love Phantom of the Paradise.
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post #13 of 21
2/9/07 at 10:47am
It's more the interruption of the narrative flow the musical numbers throw up there than the behavior of the actors that bothers me.
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post #14 of 21
2/9/07 at 9:02pm
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if its a musical, how do the songs interrupt the narrative flow? the songs in musicals directly relate to whats going on. what musicals have you seen that make you feel like that? And may I add that I really dont like musicals, I'm just confused by your argument.

and then we got this guy over here talking about smacking people. Who said anything about buffy being a great example of a musical? all I said is that the episode was awesome. and actually, I will say it was a great musical because I've sat through live performances of crap like Rent. While we're on the subject, why doesnt a television episode count as a great musical? because there are so many REAL musicals out there that are masterpieces? I did enjoy Tommy if that counts. What say you authority on all that is musical?
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post #15 of 21
2/9/07 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
It's more the interruption of the narrative flow the musical numbers throw up there than the behavior of the actors that bothers me.
As opposed to something like a Friday the 13th movie, in which a scene of Jason breaking someone in a sleeping bag over his knee is a natural, organic part of the story's flow.
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post #16 of 21
2/9/07 at 10:53pm
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aside from that gregster (and your point is a valid one), singing in a musical is PART of the narrative and not something that undermines it.
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post #17 of 21
2/10/07 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
As opposed to something like a Friday the 13th movie, in which a scene of Jason breaking someone in a sleeping bag over his knee is a natural, organic part of the story's flow.

In a horror movie, yes. That is why we're here, isn't it, to see the villain/monster kill people? We're not there to hear him sing.
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post #18 of 21
2/10/07 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Kevin VanNatter
aside from that gregster (and your point is a valid one), singing in a musical is PART of the narrative and not something that undermines it.
I agree that is the case, but it just seems a stilted manner in which to tell the story to me. I can appreciate a good poem, too, but I've always preferred prose as an art form. The best poetry, IMO, works within the self-imposed bounds of meter &/or rhyme, which necessarily places limitations on it. An artist's being able to overcome that and write a piece of moving, flowing poetry within those bounds is an achievement, and is to be admired. Similarly, I guess if you can tell a story thru song it's a similarly impressive achievement. But I have always enjoyed the fact that when you write a novel, an essay or a short story or some other piece of prose, you don't have those limitations to work within, and you can just TELL it. Is it easier to write prose? Maybe. Does that make it a lesser form of writing? I doubt it. Similarly, is it harder to write a good musical? Probably. Does that make other forms of cinema lesser forms of entertanment? Not necessarily. All I'm saying is I like one more than the other. It's just a matter of taste.
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post #19 of 21
2/10/07 at 5:24pm
A matter of taste, I can get behind. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with not liking certain genres. I don't like romantic comedies, generally speaking. I just thought that the reason you stated felt more like trying to come up with a logical/intellectual justification for not liking something. I don't like olives; I don't really need a reason.
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post #20 of 21
2/10/07 at 10:33pm
. . . And IMO, Olives rule.
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post #21 of 21
2/10/07 at 10:48pm
I think Horror can be mixed with anything and work.
Watch : MEET THE FEEBLES or The Happiness of the Katakuris..
both the movies are not really horror but strange musicals
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