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post #1 of 566
Thread Starter 
People around here obviously take their comedy very seriously, as evidenced by the Maxim Worst Comedians thread. Someone there (forgive me, I forget who) suggested we do a best of list. Here it is.

I'm not proposing some arbitrary finite number (Top 10 Comedians of All Time!) just because everyone has their favorites, and hopefully we can use the discussion to sort of sculpt a consensus of the very best anyway. The only rule I'd ask to keep is to post a revised list at the bottom of your post if you're adding a comedian. That way we can review the list as a whole once more comedians are added, to see who should continue on and who should go. Please do not post more than one addition per day.

Any comedians (stand-up only please) from any era are open, along with (and hopefully including) passionate debate along the way.

My first addition:

Steven Wright

Despite his unique style, for me Wright epitomizes and distills the essence of stand-up. Get up there and tell jokes. That's it. And of course, it's not just the delivery. The writing is brilliant.

"Did you sleep good?"
"No, I made a couple of mistakes."

"A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me. I'm afraid of widths."

"Do married people live longer than single people or does it just seem longer?"

"How come Superman could stop bullets with his chest, but always ducked when someone threw a gun at him?"

LIST SO FAR:

Steven Wright
post #2 of 566
Richard Pryor

One of, if not the best and one of the few who truly changed what stand-up comedy could be.

"Now don't think that I don't know some of the jokes y'all have been tellin. *Lights match and shakes it* What's this? Richard Pryor, runnin' down the street."

LIST SO FAR:

Stephen Wright
Richard Pryor
post #3 of 566
Thread Starter 
Certainly can't argue with Pryor. One thing I truly love about Pryor is the lack of observational detachment that's the backbone of so many comics' material. ("What's the deal with airline food?" "The thing about men and women...") Even comics who frame stories in terms of personal experience are still bullshitting. Which is fine. They're storytellers. But Pryor bared his insides. That in itself was revolutionary.
post #4 of 566
Yeah, Pryor was absolutely honest, right up until the end -- even when he wasn't doing stand-up. I remember hearing one of the last interviews he gave, for NPR, where he matter of factly told Terry Gross one of the ways he was dealing with the pain of M.S. was by smoking crack.
post #5 of 566
Red Foxx

Before Pryor & Murphy there was Red. The original king of blue comedy bits and "party" albums.

LIST SO FAR:

Stephen Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
post #6 of 566
So I get the extreme honor of adding my all time favorite, Bill Hicks. Nobody ever succeeded in maintaining a career while being hostile to his own audience like Hicks. And not since Carlin had anyone offered life philosophy in the guise of stand-up comedy.

Incidentally, the choice between Carlin and Hicks was a tough one. I worship Carlin. But I'll let someone else have that honor.

LIST SO FAR:

Stephen Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
post #7 of 566
BILL HICKS

A firebrand who ripped into ignorance, idiocy and injustice of all stripes with a razor-sharp wit and Swiss-watch comic timing. Thought-provoking and inspiring, but mainly just really fucking funny.

"'Hey, buddy! [Shoved away] C'mere! [Shoved away] C'MERE!' Not a physics major."

The list so far:

STEVEN WRIGHT
RICHARD PRYOR
REDD FOXX
BILL HICKS
post #8 of 566
People love Hicks. As do I. (I've even been fucking around with a completely pretentious play about him for a while.)

"You think when Jesus wants to come back he's gonna wanna see a fuckin' cross! It's like walking up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant!"

"We live in a world where John Lennon was murdered but Barry Manilow coooooooooonnnnntinues to make fuckin' albums. If you're gonna kill somebody, have some fucking taste. I'll drive you to Kenny Rogers's house."
post #9 of 566
Beat you by one minute, Tommy! HA!

Now pick Carlin.
post #10 of 566
Thread Starter 
I have to admit, though I know who he is and why he had such an impact, I'm not nearly as familiar with Hicks as I should be. I just haven't heard a lot of his material. Does he have a seminal album or concert video I should start with?
post #11 of 566
Rant in E-Minor is what I usually reccomend as that was the one that got me into his stuff. "Relentless" and "Arizona Bay" are two of his other bigger albums.

I don't believe there's a lot of official concert footage -- tons of bootlegs (Including one of his infamous appearance at the Aspen Comedy Festival, I think it is, where he pauses during a rant about the state of America and doing the Nazi salute to say "By the way, I'm available for parties) and one official video, "Bill Hicks Live." There's also a book "Love All The People" that collects some of his routines and essays that's all right, but pretty repetitive. There's a biography, "American Scream" and a trio documentary that I can't remember the name of.
post #12 of 566
George Carlin

He deserves a nod for his genius ability to dissect language alone. His bit on the difference between baseball and football is classic stuff, as well as the well-known 7 Dirty Words bit. Like Lenny Bruce, he helped pioneer a dirtier style of comedy that clashed with the airline-food-types that came before, and still shames so many pretenders even now.

His reaction to an airplane landing as the stewardess "welcomes" him to O'Hare International Airport..."How is someone who is just arriving herself possibly welcome me to a place she isn't even AT yet?? Doesn't this violate some fundamental law of physics? We're on the ground 4 seconds and she's coming on like the fucking mayor's wife!!"

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin

And yeah, anyone who doesn't know Hicks' material inside and out needs to fix that. My absolute favorite comedian and one of the people that I would credit for having a profound effect on my worldview. Buy what you can and bootleg everything else.
post #13 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
I have to admit, though I know who he is and why he had such an impact, I'm not nearly as familiar with Hicks as I should be. I just haven't heard a lot of his material. Does he have a seminal album or concert video I should start with?
Rant in E-Minor is definitive and quite long with 36 tracks and 1.2 hours of material. But some of my all-time favorite stuff is on Relentless. If you really want to hear something different, though, check out Flying Saucer Tour, Volume 1. It's a concert that wasn't going very well, and shows how he handled a less-than-enthusiastic crowd. It has a track called "Worst Audience Ever". Not the sort of thing they generally publish as a comedy album.

What's really scary is hearing Hicks go off about the first war in Iraq under the first Bush. One can only imagine what he'd have to say about the sequel.
post #14 of 566
Bill Cosby.
post #15 of 566
The recordings of Carlin's later HBO concerts are what got me into stand-up back in high school. There's a bit on "You Are All Diseased" where he says: "Fuck the Children, and I know what I'm talking about -- you are talking to Mr. Conductor here" that absolutely kills me.

Also, Cosby: "To Russell, My Brother, Who I Slept With." Greatness. Pure greatness.
post #16 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata
Bill Cosby.
Well if you're not going to expand on that, I will.

Cosby has kind of a bad rap these days for his prudish attitude toward other black comedians, but let's remember just how damn funny the man was. Himself is an absolutely amazing concert film by any yardstick. While his brand of clean, family-friendly comedy may have gone out of style to some extent, it doesn't lessen his talent, or his impact. It wouldn't be difficult to make the case that without Cosby's popularity with white America, Pryor couldn't have made it at all.

Listening to Cosby's work through the years is also interesting in that it's so autobiographical. He's turned every phase of his life into concert fodder, from growing up in the projects, to high school, his time in the service, college, marriage, children...it's all in his comedy.

And The Dentist is still one of the funniest bits ever done.

The List So Far:


Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
post #17 of 566
EDDIE MURPHY

Sure, his post Comedian/Delirious output, as in Raw, is shoddy at best, but the early stuff, it doesn't get any better. It's easy, and fun, to hate on Murphy now days for his questionable film choices, but when he was young and hungry, great stuff.

Just wanted to note, as far as I'm concerned, Richard Pryor was the best there ever was, he and Bill Hicks are my two favorite comedians.


The List So Far:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
post #18 of 566
EDDIE IZZARD

OK, so this guy isn't everyone's British cup of tea and his recent output isn't exactly stellar - but he's got too much great stuff to be left off a list like this. Pythonish humour and hyper-intellectual non-sequiturs. And he beat out what might be Chris Rocks greatest album at the Grammy's - and that's gotta count for something.

Oh, and at leasts there'll be one cross-dresser on this list.

The List So Far:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
post #19 of 566
Steve Martin.

If you have seen footage of his stand up, you know why.
If you haven't, it's almost impossible to explain.

"It went.....FAR AWAY!!!!!!!"


Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
post #20 of 566
Steve Martin was the first stand-up I really connected with as a kid. I was a weird kid, I guess. His brand of completely absurd nonsense remains unique to this day. Who else could write the lyric "Be obsequious, purple and clairvoyant"?
post #21 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg David
Steve Martin was the first stand-up I really connected with as a kid. I was a weird kid, I guess.
Thats pretty much how i got into Steve Martin. I had seen The Jerk as a kid and loved it, so my mum grabbed his stand up stuff for me on video and I was completely into it from the beginning. To me, back then, it was just his adult guy totally flipping out and doing Wild And Crazy things, but when i came back to it later on as an "Adult" I could access it on a whole different level.
I see a lot of his early stuff in LA Story. A criminally underrated movie.
post #22 of 566
i'd say mitch hedberg, one of the more original comics i've ever had a chance to see live. he may not be up to par with some of the titans being mentioned here, but i think he's one of the funniest people i've ever heard holding a mic.
post #23 of 566
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
mitch hedberg
post #24 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarant
EDDIE IZZARD

OK, so this guy isn't everyone's British cup of tea and his recent output isn't exactly stellar - but he's got too much great stuff to be left off a list like this. Pythonish humour and hyper-intellectual non-sequiturs. And he beat out what might be Chris Rocks greatest album at the Grammy's - and that's gotta count for something.

Oh, and at leasts there'll be one cross-dresser on this list.

The List So Far:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
I just recently watched one of his bits again, the one where he talks about how the meaning of the word incredible has been diluted. Haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
post #25 of 566
I'll add Louis C.K. The guy does great non-sequiturs (you know all that stuff teenagers love Dane Cook for? Louis did it first.) Also, his stuff about his daughter is some the most insanely funny shit ever.

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
post #26 of 566
In his prime, Andrew Dice Clay was a nutbustingly funny guy.
post #27 of 566
Just to back track a bit, I just last night finished reading American Scream: The Bill Hicks Story. I've been a huge fan of Hicks for about ten years (was too young to know of him before he died, even though he was pretty big over here the last couple of years of his life) and when I got to the last chapter, I cried my eyes out.

I think if you want to get into Hicks, do it as chronologically as you can so you can see him refine his technique and themes. So I would go: Dangerous (album), Sane Man (DVD), Relentless (DVD), Rant in E-Minor (album), Arizona Bay (album) and then Revelations/Totally Bill Hicks (DVD). Then read Love All The People to get an insight into the man behind the stand-up (there is a difference).

The guy is a hero of mine, I love him and I miss him. There is no-one else I could possibly add to this list.
post #28 of 566
I'd like to add Larry Miller to the list. His stand up specials that he used to do in the 80s/90s were consistently funny. Nowadays, he seems to just do supporting character stuff in random movies, but he used to be all over the place.

His comedy bit on 'The Five Levels of Drinking' was mandatory viewing during our drinking binges at college. I saw him live one time while on a date, and we met him after the show. I told him about our level 5 parties, and he was pretty amused. Nice guy.

'There are 5 levels of drinking. 6, if you live in a trailer park, but normally 5. See if any of THESE look familiar....'

I'll also agree with the sentiment above regarding Andrew Dice Clay...for that 1 to 2 year period when he was new, he was funny as hell. He got repetitive and old really quick, though.
post #29 of 566
Brian Regan

The master of doing smart stupid humor. It's impossible to listen to him and no think of his stupid voice when you do something dumb.

His cd and dvd are quite possibly the funniest standup shows ever made. It's not saying anything important like Hicks, it ain't raunchy like Pryor, it's clean and it's goddamn funny. I'd hesitate to call it similiar to Seinfeld's "Did you ever notice" style, but he constantly calls out things that people do that everyone can relate to. It's infinitely listenable, and I really believe that if you don't walk away from his shows without a sore jaw from laughing so hard that you have no soul.
post #30 of 566
Woody Allen

If all you know of him is his directing, you're missing out. Standup Comic is a great collection of some of his performances from the 60s, and they're still smart, witty, and damn funny.

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
post #31 of 566
For me, David Cross' Shut Up, You Fucking Baby is the first great post 9/11 stand-up CD. His rambly contempt occasionally wears thin, but on that CD set, especially the second disc, he pretty much foresees all of the crap the Bush administration had in store for us the next 5 years.

(Thanks also to GregDavid for mentioning Flying Saucer Tour, Vol. 1, a primer in how to deal with a bad crowd. I'd also recommend the DVD Bill Hicks -- Sane Man, to see his earlier stuff, the stuff that Denis Leary has been accused of copping.)

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
post #32 of 566
Chris Rock.

Basically, it's him and Chappelle taking up the reins Pryor and Eddie Murphy dropped, hating and celebrating black culture in the smartest and most hilarious way imaginable, with Rock as the brains, and Chapelle as the heart and soul. Which is beautiful, because current black culture, especially comedy, needs those two voices more than the 70s and 80s EVER needed Pryor and Murphy, which is saying something.

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
post #33 of 566
Patton Oswalt.

I saw him tape his Comedy Central special, and laughed so hard I cried. After that, I ended up catching him at the UCB theater and on the Comedians of Comedy tour, and he just gets better every time. His act isn't joke after joke - he builds up his bits and rehearses the hell out of them. The Robert Evans ESPN football ads are like a 5-minute monologue, yet makes me laugh every time I hear it. On the other hand, he's can improvise on the spot. Watching him, you just get the sense that he genuinely loves what he does. Plus, he's a movie and comic book nerd.

I highly recommend his CD, and the Comedians of Comedy DVD on Netflix. Great, great stuff. Easily my favorite comedian working today.

So the list:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
post #34 of 566
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Brian Regan

The master of doing smart stupid humor. It's impossible to listen to him and no think of his stupid voice when you do something dumb.

His cd and dvd are quite possibly the funniest standup shows ever made. It's not saying anything important like Hicks, it ain't raunchy like Pryor, it's clean and it's goddamn funny. I'd hesitate to call it similiar to Seinfeld's "Did you ever notice" style, but he constantly calls out things that people do that everyone can relate to. It's infinitely listenable, and I really believe that if you don't walk away from his shows without a sore jaw from laughing so hard that you have no soul.
I remember when Comedy Central first started schlepping their "Comedy Central Presents" line-up and just about every reader comment amounted to "Where the hell is Brian Regan?" I finally saw it and I have to admit, I don't really get what's so special about it. Is it worth a few chuckles? Absolutely.

So, with that in mind I'm really hesitant to put him on an all-time list like this. I'm more than willing to concede that my opinion is just ridiculously wrong, but does anyone else want to chime in for or against Regan?

I'm also not sure about Louis CK. Again, his sets are worth a few laughs, but an all-timer? Am I missing something?

Dice is a different thing altogether because he was so brilliantly funny (his campfire story/impressions killed), but for such a short period of time.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce
EDDIE MURPHY

Sure, his post Comedian/Delirious output, as in Raw, is shoddy at best, but the early stuff, it doesn't get any better. It's easy, and fun, to hate on Murphy now days for his questionable film choices, but when he was young and hungry, great stuff.
The interesting thing about Murphy's place among the greats is that he's also compared to Richard Pryor because of his brashness and his language, but he's really much more like a profane Bill Cosby. He's a brilliant storyteller, and he takes on the other characters in the story as he's telling it. The biggest difference was that Cosby was more "This is what it's like being a father" and Murphy was more "This is what it's like being a kid."
post #35 of 566
I'll admit I haven't heard Eddie Murphy standup in so long I don't remember it, but Bill Cosby certainly had plenty of "life as a kid" stuff. e.g. his brilliant and hilarious Wonderfulness and Revenge.
post #36 of 566
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scratch
...the Comedians of Comedy DVD on Netflix.
This was just released to the outlets for sale a few weeks ago. Highly, highly recommended, though the draw for me isn't Oswalt but Zach Galifianakis.
post #37 of 566
Comedy is so subjective . . . few things grate on me like the phrase "That's not funny." No, it's not funny to YOU, you knee-jerk son of a . . . but I digress.

For me, Regan was one of the best of the 80s and early 90s, and Louis CK is one of the best working right now, so I don't see a problem with placing them on the "all-time" list.

In my opinion, Mitch Hedberg was merely Steven Wright with more heroin, and Eddie Murphy's disgusting homophobia distracts me from his talents, but I understand that people adore these guys, and they certainly deserve a spot on an arbitrary message board list.
post #38 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scratch
Patton Oswalt.
Really?
post #39 of 566
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
they certainly deserve a spot on an arbitrary message board list.
Not sure why I care enough to elaborate on this, but the whole point of this thread is that it's not an arbitrary list. It's a response to ridiculous lists like the Maxim worst comedians thread. It's difficult to look at the posts thus far and say that people aren't passionate about the subject. Dissent's not based on "Oh, this guy should be in or out" because there's some magical cut off point, but on a more substantive and intelligent discussion of the performances and the writing. More than that, it's just a way to discuss a lot of great comedians and why we like or don't like them.

Anyway, be pissy if you want but that's the idea. I don't see it as arbitrary.
post #40 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcassady
Really?
Yep.

Jonathan, I'm not being pissy, I was just trying to state, that, like all lists, it's formed by opinions, and try as we might, opinions aren't definitive.

I'm glad that people are engaged in comedy debate, but I think that's the main point of this thread . . . Like all of these kinds of lists, it's merely a vehicle for discussion.
post #41 of 566
Because when I think of the greats I think Cosby, Pryor, Carlin and Oswalt.
post #42 of 566
I love Oswalt, but I'd wait until he's further along in his career before lumping him in with the greats.
post #43 of 566
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
Jonathan, I'm not being pissy, I was just trying to state, that, like all lists, it's formed by opinions, and try as we might, opinions aren't definitive.

I'm glad that people are engaged in comedy debate, but I think that's the main point of this thread . . . Like all of these kinds of lists, it's merely a vehicle for discussion.
I didn't mean to be pissy in response, I just took it as taking the list to be arbitrary meant taking the thread to be arbitrary.
post #44 of 566
No problem, Jonathan, back on topic.

JCassady, what year should be the cut-off date for this list? Patton Oswalt is one of the brightest minds and finest writers of this decade (in my opinion), but we shouldn't consider him for another 20 years? How much time should a comic put in before he can be critiqued properly? I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge some of the best acts of this generation.

Oh, and at this point, I'll take Patton Oswalt crapping on the toilet than another hour of Carlin's "I'M OLD! WAHHHH" specials. His last three, especially the last one, were unbearable to me.
post #45 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Brian Regan

The master of doing smart stupid humor. It's impossible to listen to him and no think of his stupid voice when you do something dumb.

His cd and dvd are quite possibly the funniest standup shows ever made. It's not saying anything important like Hicks, it ain't raunchy like Pryor, it's clean and it's goddamn funny. I'd hesitate to call it similiar to Seinfeld's "Did you ever notice" style, but he constantly calls out things that people do that everyone can relate to. It's infinitely listenable, and I really believe that if you don't walk away from his shows without a sore jaw from laughing so hard that you have no soul.
Love his Pop-tart bit. And weirdly, my wife does a great Regan impersonation.

EDIT: To admit that he's not an "All-Time Great" or someone incredibly influential, but I find him funny nevertheless. As far as newer (non-classic) guys, I'm also a fan of Todd Barry, Mitch Hedburg (RIP), Stephen Lynch, Dane Cook's 1st Comedy Central special (I liked the freshness & energy before all the fallout as of late), Demetri Martin...

I was a big fan of Dennis Leary and the HBO specials of Larry Miller, Kevin Pollack, and Charles Fleischer back in the day.

EDIT #2: Apologies for not being able to add to the list. You guys are covering it nicely.
post #46 of 566
I wasn't the only who set the time limit or said it was too early. I think he'll always be slightly-above average. This is a greatest list, not a pretty-good list or a sometimes great list.
post #47 of 566
I think differently. And scene.

Lenny Bruce

Now, granted, what I've seen of Bruce's stuff was terribly dated and unfunny to me ... However, his contribution to the overall art form can't be denied, and you can make a case that Pryor, Carlin, et al descended from his work.

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Lenny Bruce
post #48 of 566
Dennis Miller circa 1985 to Sept. 2001.
post #49 of 566
Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
I think differently. And scene.

Lenny Bruce

Now, granted, what I've seen of Bruce's stuff was terribly dated and unfunny to me ... However, his contribution to the overall art form can't be denied, and you can make a case that Pryor, Carlin, et al descended from his work.
God damn it! I was just about to add him to the list. So far all my picks (Hicks, Izzard, Carlin, Hedberg, and Bruce) have been taken.
post #50 of 566


When you've had a PEZ dispenser made out of your head, then, maybe then can you be considered an All-Time Great Comedian...
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