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post #101 of 566
2/28/07 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by swedish miyagi
Chappelle comes up with jokes that only he could come up with from angles that people have not considered until he says them. If you didn't know who Richard Pryor was or who Chappelle was and you heard them both right now Chappelle would be easily funnier. But Pryor was as funny for his time, and it is popular to say Pryor is an all time great. But Chappelle is easily an all time great standup whether it is popular to mention right now or not. There is too much pr in people minds to objectively and originally view things a lot of times I think.
Agree on the Chappelle/Pryor comparison. Chappelle's comedy might be just another version of the "black man" act, but there's no denying that the take is uniquely his. And for pure funny you can't get much better than him. One of the few comedians who's actually made me cry based on an album alone. Brian Regan too is brilliant, probably not as influential as the "classics", but he's every bit as funny.

As far as Dane Cook's concerned, I live out of America so I've been pretty much oblivious to anything he's done apart from Retaliation and Harmful if Swallowed. And I still find them both damn funny. Definitely in a lowbrow sort of way. But still... he doesn't bother me nearly as much as he does most people. He doesn't belong on a "best of" list though.
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post #102 of 566
2/28/07 at 6:07pm
Don Rickles

Without him, there would be no Triumph the Insult Comic Dog or Lisa Lampanelli, and he's still funnier than both of them.


THE LIST:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
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post #103 of 566
2/28/07 at 6:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarant
Definitely in a lowbrow sort of way. But still... he doesn't bother me nearly as much as he does most people. He doesn't belong on a "best of" list though.
Agreed. He belongs in a flick or sitcom, not writing stand-up IMO. I do appreciate his marketability increasing awareness of the art, in spite of his demographic (and theft accusations).

EDIT: Sorry, I'm gonna have to add Robin Williams. Sure he was coked out of his mind and has made a lot of bad movies this lifetime, but I remember being utterly floored by his rapid-fire spontaneity and energy before his stuff became old-hat (the U.N. of stereotype vioces)...

THE LIST:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
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post #104 of 566
2/28/07 at 6:18pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
Don Rickles

Without him, there would be no Triumph the Insult Comic Dog or Lisa Lampanelli, and he's still funnier than both of them.
He's a good add, no doubt. Just remember to only post one addition per day. Thanks.
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post #105 of 566
2/28/07 at 6:37pm
I'm sitting here trying to think of a female comic worthy of being on the list.

Phyllis Diller.

THE LIST:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
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post #106 of 566
2/28/07 at 7:02pm
Darkmite took my next pick, the tool.
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post #107 of 566
2/28/07 at 7:05pm
I'm glad someone added Rickles, there's a lot of old-school stand-ups who need some love.
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post #108 of 566
2/28/07 at 8:02pm
I hate Robin Williams. I think he has mistaken doing the same three or four annoying characters - ebonically and maniacally - for the past two decades as being "cutting edge". The truth is that he was tiring to watch when he played Mork on "Happy Days" and nothing's changed. Nanoo, nanoo, indeed.

So I am sending Sam Kinison into this list to scream Mork back into his egg. And maybe there'll be enough room in there for Jonathan Winters - Robin's idol - to fit, as well. Oh! OH! OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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post #109 of 566
2/28/07 at 8:44pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by RathBandu
Darkmite took my next pick, the tool.
Every tool has a use.
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post #110 of 566
2/28/07 at 8:55pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi Dracula
I hate Robin Williams. I think he has mistaken doing the same three or four annoying characters - ebonically and maniacally - for the past two decades as being "cutting edge". The truth is that he was tiring to watch when he played Mork on "Happy Days" and nothing's changed. Nanoo, nanoo, indeed.
Are you distinguishing between his movie and TV characters or talking about his stand-up as well?
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post #111 of 566
2/28/07 at 9:41pm
How on Earth has this man not been mentioned yet - RODNEY DANGERFIELD!! Not only is he simply funny as hell, but he is adored by basically every other comedian ever and has practically attained God-like status.
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post #112 of 566
2/28/07 at 10:02pm
THE LIST:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
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post #113 of 566
2/28/07 at 10:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martianman
I've seen him 3 times, and you're right, my face gets sore from laughing so much. His stuff is funny when you don't see him, but when you're looking at him when he's making the joke, it's even funnier because of the faces he makes. "Cup o' dirt" always cracks me up.
Glad to see there are other people who like Regan. I always like to think of Regan as the "What if Will Ferrel had done stand up instead?" guy.

Not to mention, he does a great "Idiot Guy" voice.

"I think I'm a little uncomfortable...want a piece of gum?"
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post #114 of 566
2/28/07 at 10:54pm
I like Regan's new material with the idiot guy voice where he's going to the emergency room but can't find parking. "You mind if I park there, I'm dying. Oh you're dying too, ok I'll just go up a couple more levels."
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post #115 of 566
2/28/07 at 11:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdHocken
Glad to see there are other people who like Regan. I always like to think of Regan as the "What if Will Ferrel had done stand up instead?" guy.

Not to mention, he does a great "Idiot Guy" voice.

"I think I'm a little uncomfortable...want a piece of gum?"
The Eye Dr. visit, right? Man I gotta get a disc of his stuff...

(scrambling) "I gotta get a toaster!"
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post #116 of 566
2/28/07 at 11:09pm
"I'll get 3 tasty goos, and 3 choclate sprinkles."

"you have 4 left"

"ohhh"

"what if I got two more, then how many would I have left donut lady."
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post #117 of 566
3/1/07 at 12:06am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaparoo
How on Earth has this man not been mentioned yet - RODNEY DANGERFIELD!! Not only is he simply funny as hell, but he is adored by basically every other comedian ever and has practically attained God-like status.
Goddammit, I knew someone would beat me to it.
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post #118 of 566
3/1/07 at 12:27am
Robert Schimmel

I see names like Louis C.K. and Brian Regan, both of whom I think are fantastic, and I feel like Schimmel belongs in the same company. He's had a lot of health problems and some odd personal stuff that may have gotten in the way of his career taking off but his "Unprotected" special hit every chord with me the first time I saw it.

Here's the first 10 minutes of that special. Even if he's not your thing at least get to the bit about him taking a rabbit to the vet.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Schimmel&hl=en

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
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post #119 of 566
3/1/07 at 11:01am
Richard Jeni.

His HBO/Showtime/Whatever comedy specials killed me during the late 80s/early 90s. He has a routine about staying up all night and watching all 4 of the 'Jaws' movies that's particularly funny. I saw him live in Las Vegas about 7 years ago, and he was still hilarious.

The list so far:
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
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post #120 of 566
3/1/07 at 12:02pm
Thread Starter 
Since Flaparoo was kind enough to add Rodney Dangerfield yesterday, I've got to find somebody else.

I'm going to the bubble for this one, not because the guy isn't talented but because he got himself a talk show fairly early on and stand-up has been on the backburner ever since.

Jon Stewart.

Stewart's one of those guys who reads as funny as he writes. He reminds me a lot of Woody Allen that way. But he's a remarkable performer as well. His timing is impeccable, which is no small feat considering how "wordy" his material is.

I hope he gets the chance to write more books. His bit about a Jew going to visit JFK in "Naked Pictures of Famous People" is bitingly, blisteringly funny.

The list so far:
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
Jon Stewart
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post #121 of 566
3/1/07 at 12:50pm
Richard Jeni might be one of the worst comedians on the planet, and putting him in a best comedians of all time list is an insult to every comedian alive, dead or not yet born.
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post #122 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:11pm
Dot Dot Dot, in your opinion. Apparently, there's at least one guy who thinks otherwise. I don't think Jeni is an all-timer, but I also despise Robin Williams' tired schtick with every fiber of my being. However, I'm willing to discuss it.
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post #123 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:12pm
Again, someone most people know from a different medium than standup -- Bob Newhart.

The list so far:
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
Jon Stewart
Bob Newhart
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post #124 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by MangyK9
Dot Dot Dot, in your opinion. Apparently, there's at least one guy who thinks otherwise. I don't think Jeni is an all-timer, but I also despise Robin Williams' tired schtick with every fiber of my being. However, I'm willing to discuss it.
There're probly some people who feel that Little Man is a great film too. Doesn't mean I'm gonna discuss it.

...
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post #125 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:22pm
Good call on Newhart!

How about Johnny Carson? People were eager to hear his newest 10-minute set five nights a week for decades. Or is that too far afield?

I would also make a case for Groucho Marx, but then we dip into vaudeville, and the waters get murky.
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post #126 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:23pm
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There're probly some people who feel that Little Man is a great film
Now you're just being silly.
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post #127 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
The Eye Dr. visit, right? Man I gotta get a disc of his stuff...

(scrambling) "I gotta get a toaster!"
That's right, I have his first album and the Eye Dr visit isn't on there but I hear he's got a second album out now.

"I before E....always."

And BTW great call on Newhart
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post #128 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:32pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
How about Johnny Carson? People were eager to hear his newest 10-minute set five nights a week for decades. Or is that too far afield?
That's tough because the fundamental question is whether Carson could be considered a stand-up. I'll argue to the end that his delivery and timing were among the very best there ever was, but that question remains. I don't know. This is a stupid question, but did he write his own monologues? If so, he absolutely merits consideration. If not, the question gets more difficult.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MangyK9
I would also make a case for Groucho Marx, but then we dip into vaudeville, and the waters get murky.
I know what you mean. I was very tempted to add George Burns.
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post #129 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:46pm
Robert Klein. The man who basically launched the one-hour pay cable stand-up special phenomenon.
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post #130 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:52pm
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This is a stupid question, but did he write his own monologues?
Like all hosts, he had writers, but he also wrote . . . I recall when he died, Letterman did a monologue consisting of jokes that he wrote for Dave in the past year or so before his death.

Carson was originally a magician before becoming a TV personality . . . I would put him closer to that Burns/Hope/Marx/Berle era, when jokes were more commonplace, and stealing material was even more accepted than it is now. However, Carson could certainly write on his own, and God knows his delivery and timing is just about second-to-none.
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post #131 of 566
3/1/07 at 1:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
That's tough because the fundamental question is whether Carson could be considered a stand-up. I'll argue to the end that his delivery and timing were among the very best there ever was, but that question remains. I don't know. This is a stupid question, but did he write his own monologues? If so, he absolutely merits consideration. If not, the question gets more difficult.
I wanted to insert Carson before I decided on someone else yesterday, but I couldn't be sure about the origin of his material either.

Molt, looked into Robert Schimmel... some funny stuff.
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post #132 of 566
3/1/07 at 5:26pm
Today I'm adding a guy most people may never have heard of (or don't care to).

Paul Mooney

He wrote alot of stuff for Pryor and did some work on the Chappelle show.
Depending on who you are you'll either find him a very funny man or a rambling racist. 99.9% of his act deals with race, race relations in America and class.

The list so far:
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
Jon Stewart
Bob Newhart
Johnny Carson?
Robert Klein
Paul Mooney
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post #133 of 566
3/1/07 at 5:48pm
Mooney's a great addition to the list. Also, Gary Shandling.
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post #134 of 566
3/1/07 at 6:08pm
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Depending on who you are you'll either find him a very funny man or a rambling racist.
I remember Doug Stanhope calling Mooney "the most racist comic (he's) ever seen" after the whole Michael Richards incident. I really haven't seen enough of his stand-up to form an opinion, but he's certainly a legend.
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post #135 of 566
3/1/07 at 6:30pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wee-Bey
Today I'm adding a guy most people may never have heard of (or don't care to).

Paul Mooney

He wrote alot of stuff for Pryor and did some work on the Chappelle show.
Depending on who you are you'll either find him a very funny man or a rambling racist. 99.9% of his act deals with race, race relations in America and class.
An actor friend of mine is good friends with Mooney and has so many stories about him it's unbelievable. He flies under the radar but he's revered by most comics. The guy will come in and shut down clubs. He'd come in, get on the stage whenever and still be going at five in the morning.
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post #136 of 566
3/1/07 at 7:53pm
God Dammit, Dickson, I came here all happy ready to add Bob Newhart and heap praise. Oh well.

Another Bob that should make it is BOBCAT GOLDTHWAIT. I know he's not everybody's cup of tea, but if you just know him from the Police Academy flicks, do yourself a favor and get a hold of his act somewhere.



This is another of the it may be too soon department, but there is nobody who makes me laugh more consistently these past few years than Jim Gaffigan. I'm hesitant to add him, I'd like to see what most of you think.


EDIT:The list so far:
Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
Jon Stewart
Bob Newhart
Johnny Carson?
Robert Klein
Paul Mooney
Bobcat Goldthwait

I know there's a ton of old schoolers I'm forgetting.
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post #137 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:07pm
Gaffigan is funny, but yeah, too soon.
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post #138 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:09pm
I was thinking of adding Gaffigan for the same reason I went with Schimmel. I suppose he's well-known enough but he really is one of the best guys going at the moment and doesn't seem to get enough mention when today's best comics are discussed.

I already have someone in mind for my next pick, otherwise I'd say Gaffigan.
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post #139 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:28pm
Gaffigan was just scheduled to perform at my school in a couple of months actually. I'll make sure to check it out.
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post #140 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:31pm
I'm wondering what people would think of the addition of Jerry Seinfeld to the list. Personally, I don't find him all that funny but there's no denying that he's had a lot of influence in the industry.
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post #141 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by Quarant
I'm wondering what people would think of the addition of Jerry Seinfeld to the list. Personally, I don't find him all that funny but there's no denying that he's had a lot of influence in the industry.
I'm not the biggest fan of his standup act, either. Mostly because by the time I knew who he was and caught his act, his clones had permeated the industry.

I think it would be hard to argue with his addition to the list.
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post #142 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:35pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaparoo
Gaffigan was just scheduled to perform at my school in a couple of months actually. I'll make sure to check it out.

Do it. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I'll tell you what, if you don't have a great time, the hot pockets are on me.
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post #143 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:41pm
Seinfeld would have been my next addition. His little bits before his TV show were usually good but that's just the tip of the iceberg. His old appearances on Carson and Letterman were always terrific.
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post #144 of 566
3/1/07 at 8:48pm
K. Well consider him added then.

The list so far:

Steven Wright
Richard Pryor
Red Foxx
Bill Hicks
George Carlin
Bill Cosby
Lenny Bruce
Eddie Murphy
Eddie Izzard
Steve Martin
Mitch Hedberg
Louis C.K.
Andrew Dice Clay
Larry Miller
Brian Regan
Woody Allen
David Cross
Chris Rock
Patton Oswalt
Jonathan Winters
The Smothers Brothers
Dave Chappelle
Lewis Black
Don Rickles
Robin Williams
Phyllis Diller
Sam Kinison
Rodney Dangerfield
Robert Schimmel
Richard Jeni
Jon Stewart
Bob Newhart
Johnny Carson?
Robert Klein
Paul Mooney
Bobcat Goldthwait
Jerry Seinfeld

p.s at what point do we begin the knockout?
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post #145 of 566
3/2/07 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce
Do it. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I'll tell you what, if you don't have a great time, the hot pockets are on me.
Yeah i actually just listened to Beyond the Pale and the first track I listened to was Hot Pockets, which was hilarious, as was basically the whole album. I had always thought Gaffigan was pretty funny, but I had only seen him on a few random things on TV here and there, but this CD definitely has me completely sold.
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post #146 of 566
3/2/07 at 12:43am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarant
p.s at what point do we begin the knockout?
By my count we're now at 37. I have to think we can get to at least 50. Then again, I don't want to arbitrarily add people the same way I don't want to arbitrarily take them away. I also don't want to drag anything out unnecessarily.

Thoughts? Rath?
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post #147 of 566
3/2/07 at 12:49am
I think we could make it to 50. 75 would be a challenge but it might give us more to work with. Still, there are a lot of good people being left off -- Flip Wilson, Richard Belzer, Richard Lewis, and Albert Brooks being a few names that come to mind. (I am not picking these, just bringing them up.)

Also, once again, I don't think we should do a knockout but a reverse elimination until we get to the 25 or so best comedians.
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post #148 of 566
3/2/07 at 12:53am
List needs more ladies and Ellen DeGeneres is the lady to do it. At her peak, Ellen was the shit and renewed interest and opened the door for female stand ups in a very male dominated profession. And as her invitation to host the latest Oscars proves, many people think she's still got it.

Oh, and I second, third, fourth the Gaffigan love. My friends and I have recently become obsessed with hot pockets.
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post #149 of 566
3/2/07 at 2:10am
Quote:
Originally Posted by RathBandu
I think we could make it to 50. 75 would be a challenge but it might give us more to work with. Still, there are a lot of good people being left off -- Flip Wilson, Richard Belzer, Richard Lewis, and Albert Brooks being a few names that come to mind. (I am not picking these, just bringing them up.)

Also, once again, I don't think we should do a knockout but a reverse elimination until we get to the 25 or so best comedians.
That's the thing about this list, and comedy in general, we could go on and on and on. Good call with Belzer, I was thinking about picking him. I think Matchstick mentioned Garry Shandling, he should definitely make it on here as well.
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post #150 of 566
3/2/07 at 4:43am
I think 50's a good place to start. I have a feeling anyone who came after that would pretty much end up eliminated anyway.
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