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post #51 of 188
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Originally Posted by Wease
If Derek Lee doesnt start hitting homers you guys are in trouble. Along with 2 of my cash fantasy pool teams.
Lee is doing great in just about everything....except for the zero home-runs in the month of April. I'm sure he'll pick it up and end up with at least 17-22 homeruns.

Now, if somebody could just take a crowbar to A-Rod's leg....
post #52 of 188
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Originally Posted by Wease
If Derek Lee doesnt start hitting homers you guys are in trouble. Along with 2 of my cash fantasy pool teams.
Soriano doesn't get a free pass, either.
post #53 of 188
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Originally Posted by Boomstick
Soriano doesn't get a free pass, either.
Yeah for sure he doesnt I have him on 2 cash pool teams as well. Serves me right for picking him instead of going with my instincts and picking AROD.
post #54 of 188
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Cubs are dead to me untill they reach .500

Totall unacceptable start with a ton of games at home. Scott Eyre shouldn't be used unless the Cubs are trailing by more than 3. They've wasted 5 or 6 quality starts by Lilly and Marquis.

Lee isn't hitting homers because he's taking too many pitches down the middle. Every at bat it seems he can't pull the trigger on a thigh high pitch begging to be taken yard.

Sori is pressing at it'll be good to get him on the road.
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Yeah for sure he doesnt I have him on 2 cash pool teams as well. Serves me right for picking him instead of going with my instincts and picking AROD.
AROD has me in first in CHUD 2. Can't believe I was debating him, Sori, and Pujlos. Sori was out because I wanted Zambrano and Hill(shame i missed him) and Pujlos was out because I can't root for the guy.

Surprise of the year
Prior having surgery, out for year.
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Dr. James Andrews performed the procedure on the Cubs pitcher in Birmingham, Ala. During the arthroscopy, Andrews did a debridement of Prior's right rotator cuff, as well as repair the labral and capsular injuries in his right shoulder.

"It's not career-ending," Hendry said Wednesday. "[Andrews] felt optimistic that he would be able to pitch next year. A couple hours after surgery, [Andrews] wasn't going to give you a time frame. He didn't think there was anything significant to stop Mark from pursuing his career, and at his age, should not have a problem responding and coming back after probably a strenuous rehab."
What a fucking waste of talent. The Twins taking Joe Mauer over him is looking very smart.
post #55 of 188
Looking smart? It was looking smart two years ago, now it's cemented fact.
post #56 of 188
I'm sooo fucking happy I didn't grow up a Cubs fan. Not that I wish this torment on them, mind you, just counting my blessings.
post #57 of 188
Derrek Lee is fine. He's just hitting a lot of doubles and singles instead of HRs. He has an OPS over 1.000. Ignore the HR total and look at the big picture.

The problem with the Cubs' offense is that they didn't address their OBP problems in a meaningful way and there's not much balance to the offense. Floyd, Murton, Izturis, Jones, and Cedeno simply haven't been productive and Pie is obviously still making adjustments. And Soriano has reverted to his Texas ways where he was allergic to walks. If Theriot can actually play SS that will likely help some, but the offense has flaws which won't go away completely.

Some of that will turn around, but the Cubs are a team built around slugging home runs and when they don't hit them they'll struggle to score consistently.

The inconsistency of the bullpen and the 5th starter are probably bigger long term concerns. Not to mention Zambrano's early lack of control which is causing him to leave games early and expose that bullpen.
post #58 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
It's insane to say the Cubs are miserable. Way too early esp. when the A's and Indians show what a hot 2 months can do.
That was your response to me on 4/16, when I correctly pointed out how awful the Cubbies are.

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
Cubs are dead to me untill they reach .500 Totall unacceptable start with a ton of games at home.
I see it only took another nine days for you to starting singing a different tune. Hey, better late than never. Now, let's see if the Pirates can somehow catch the Brew Crew. Go Bucs!
post #59 of 188
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15-14
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Originally Posted by zak chase
I see it only took another nine days for you to starting singing a different tune. Hey, better late than never. Now, let's see if the Pirates can somehow catch the Brew Crew. Go Bucs!
Except the Cubs weren't/aren't awful. I was pissed at losing games they should win. I was sick of excuses.

And today's win is why the N.L. is better than the A.L. The DH allows a manager to substitute pitchers at will without thought to the double switch. Today Lou had to manage. Cubs used everyone on the roster except pitchers Cherry, Lilly, Hill, and Zambrano.

Marquis pinch ran(scored tying run), Ward played Left, Soriano played LF then 2nd, Jones went from CF to RF and back to CF. Blanco even pinch hit as the last remaining position player in the 10th.

Lou used the versatility of his bench to get the runs now and not worry that under normal circumstances Sori is a very bad choice at 2nd.

Based on Pie's lack of hitting and not playing him everyday he should be sent down. good to wet his feet but Jones is playing a good enough CF.

While hitting the .500 mark and going past it today it should be noted it was only the Cards, Pirates, and Nationals that got them 7/8 wins. But it's a great confidfence builder and they are finally hitting after the 6th inning.

Now the Cubs just need to beat up on the Pirates before the Phils, Mets, and White Sox. Hopefully the Sox won't hit till after they play the Cubs.
post #60 of 188
Semi-bad luck for the Cubs to have to face Snell and Gorzelanny in the upcoming series. Still, there's nothing very fearsome about the Pirates lineup, especially when Doumit sits. Navigate Bay and LaRoche and you're left with a lineup with little pop that doesn't get on base either.

Maholm and the Pirates lineup should be a good cure for Zambrano. It wouldn't surprise me if the Cubs put up a ten spot in that game.
post #61 of 188
I wouldn't wish a loss like that upon anyone.
post #62 of 188
I was watching it with my brother in law (Cub fan) and he saw it coming once the Mets decided to hit their actual starters. I've never seen a line-up like the one the Mets started yesterday this early in the year. It's like they're already resting for the playoffs.

Should be a fun weekend. I don't think the White Sox have the offense to win the series, unfortunately. It's weird, they're winning series, but it feels like they're losing. Just getting solid pitching when they need it, I guess. But when the best average in your starting lineup is below .260, you're in trouble.

I'm going to the Sunday game again this year, and they've lost the last two years. Hopefully, they can pull it out on the Sabbath this time.
post #63 of 188
I was thinking this would be a great weekend for the Sox bats to get healthy in time for Thome's return next week.
post #64 of 188
So I guess Soriano is a Left Fielder now, go figure. Who'd have thought Soriano wouldn't have finished the season in Center? Really, that is just completely shocking and everything.
post #65 of 188
Hendry can't last much longer, can he? Obviously, he's safe through the draft next week, but given the Cubs payroll, he's got to be on the hotseat. Although maybe he's safe until the ownership change.

The biggest failure of the Hendry era has to be the farm system. There are a whopping two position players drafted by the Cubs on the team, Theriot who's putting up a .688 OPS and Murton who's putting up a .722 OPS. There's no great cost efficiency among the position players and several fit the "signed for too much money, for too many years" description. Hendry's done better in the rotation, although the 5th spot doesn't seem to be settled yet, but the bullpen has struggled a lot. Eyre, Howry, Floyd, Izturis, and Jones are probably unmovable for real value. It's hard to see the team makeup and playing time distribution changing drastically.
post #66 of 188
Ahhh alls well in Cubbie land Zambrano and Barrett have to be pulled apart in the dugout. Jesus Zambrano is pitching like a retard this year. Glad I have him on none of my fantasy teams.
post #67 of 188
This is a fun game to watch.
post #68 of 188
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Originally Posted by Wease
Ahhh alls well in Cubbie land Zambrano and Barrett have to be pulled apart in the dugout. Jesus Zambrano is pitching like a retard this year. Glad I have him on none of my fantasy teams.
Me, too. Then again, Dave Bush did enough damage all by himself.
post #69 of 188
There's going to be some interesting video highlights tonight.

Barrett made a bad play and followed it up with stupidity. That said, Zambrano had no cause to call anybody out. Not with a line of 5 ip, 13 Hs, 2 BBs, and 0 Ks. A WHIP of 3.00 is beyond awful. They're both hotheads and they've both been bad this year.
post #70 of 188
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Still not watching but the Brewers playing like shit is allowing the Cubs and Cards to stick around.

Bastards are giving me hope. That and the farm system with Theroit, Fontenot, Hill, Pie, and Marshall.

So many little things(and bullpen) are still keeping them from .500

And fuck the umps for that Lilly debacle. They gave the Braves that game. and Renteria should be suspended for that dirty play.
post #71 of 188
The Brewers appear to be playing better ball as well. They've won 4 of their last 5 and their offense seems to be coming back to life. Especially Hall.

It certainly seems like it's going to come down to the Cubs and Brewers for the division. Neither team is perfect, but they both have legitimate talent and have avoided most of the major flaws of the other teams in the division.

I do think that Theriot is benefitting from a comparison to Izturis rather than being anything resembling a real impact player. He's basically Craig Counsell with a bit more speed. A handy utility player to have around, but not someone that should be hyped up as an impact player.
post #72 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
Cubs are dead to me untill they reach .500
You are a great fan.
post #73 of 188
Tough loss for Big Z today. Very entertaining for a 1-0 game with four total hits. Really surprised Derrek started swinging... I wonder what Young said. Lee is such an easygoing guy usually.
post #74 of 188
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Originally Posted by Chavez
You are a great fan.
And your team sucks too. You'll probably win a shit division and be bounced in the NLDS. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean shit if you don't have a legit shot at winning the entire thing. Brewers should be up by 10+ games if they were any good.

Cubs have no excuse for 5 games under .500

I've already seen the fight clips. The Padres were pissed about Sori watching his HR so they hit DLee. Peavy said he would have drilled the next guy in the ribs if Sori did that to him. I imaging 5 games for both after appeal. Any more is a bit much.

Heard on the radio the ump blew it by not getting inbetween the two after Lee got hit. He just talked to the catcher.
post #75 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
And your team sucks too. You'll probably win a shit division and be bounced in the NLDS. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean shit if you don't have a legit shot at winning the entire thing.
So...the Brewers have what, exactly, to do with you being a front-runner?
post #76 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
And your team sucks too. You'll probably win a shit division and be bounced in the NLDS. Just making the playoffs doesn't mean shit if you don't have a legit shot at winning the entire thing. Brewers should be up by 10+ games if they were any good.

Cubs have no excuse for 5 games under .500

I've already seen the fight clips. The Padres were pissed about Sori watching his HR so they hit DLee. Peavy said he would have drilled the next guy in the ribs if Sori did that to him. I imaging 5 games for both after appeal. Any more is a bit much.

Heard on the radio the ump blew it by not getting inbetween the two after Lee got hit. He just talked to the catcher.
Have you just blocked the Cards winning the World Series last year from your mind. They won the same shit division got their shit together and went on a run. If you make the playoffs you always have a chance.
post #77 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
I've already seen the fight clips. The Padres were pissed about Sori watching his HR so they hit DLee. Peavy said he would have drilled the next guy in the ribs if Sori did that to him. I imaging 5 games for both after appeal. Any more is a bit much.

Heard on the radio the ump blew it by not getting inbetween the two after Lee got hit. He just talked to the catcher.
Why would Chris Young hit a guy when both pitchers hadn't given up a hit yet? Also, Derrick is hitting what, .360? You have to back a guy off of the plate.

And if you watch the replay of the conversation, Chirs is in the middle of saying something to the effect of: "I wasn't trying to hit you..." when Derick tries and fails in the worst way to sucker punch him. What a bitch move.

Derrick has always been a one of the good guys, but that was weak. And what was with Zambrano doing with his belt half off?
post #78 of 188
Derrek said he felt like his health was being threatened... which probably translates to being over sensitive about his wrist after last year.
post #79 of 188
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Originally Posted by jay f
Why would Chris Young hit a guy when both pitchers hadn't given up a hit yet? Also, Derrick is hitting what, .360? You have to back a guy off of the plate.

And if you watch the replay of the conversation, Chirs is in the middle of saying something to the effect of: "I wasn't trying to hit you..." when Derick tries and fails in the worst way to sucker punch him. What a bitch move.
Do you expect him to say, "yeah I was aiming for you." Combine Young with having very good control and Jake Peavy/Wells being pissed about Soriano hitting the HR yesterday and show boating.

What's weak is Young going high to make his point and not going after Sori.

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And what was with Zambrano doing with his belt half off?
He was getting a fresh undershit from the lockerroom and rushed out when it started
post #80 of 188
Going High and Inside to someone hitting well over .300 and had four hits the day before is called pitching. You back hitters off of the plate.

And if Derrick thought that the pitch was for Sorriano he should have taken his base and then walked back to the dugout and sucker punched his jackass leadoff hitter. I hear the Cubs like to punch each other.
post #81 of 188
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You still never go for the head.

Looks like all the pitchers hated Michael Barrett. Cubs traded him to the Padres for their back up catcher.

Hope Bowen is a better defensive catcher than hitter.
post #82 of 188
Nope, he was here for his bat. Switch hitter that got hot at times but never got enough playing time.

Defensive skills are low. Lots of passed balls as I recall.

Wonder how Barret is gonna do here. He's a friend of Peavys, but he did start some shit with Dave Roberts last year. Guess he can't be worse than Doug Marabelli.
post #83 of 188
The Cubs have to be up to something else. I can't remember an in season "addition by subtraction" trade that actually worked in baseball. Baseball statistics are pretty well understood offensively and there's no arguing that the Cubs didn't downgrade their offense.

Saltalamacchia? Kendall? Bengie Molina? I can't see the catcher situation being tenable for long.
post #84 of 188
Jason Kendall is awful and I can't see the Braves trading Salty to a team they may have to fight in the Wild Card race.
post #85 of 188
I'm happy Akinori Otsuka got the ball.
post #86 of 188
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4.5, 6.5, 8.5, 10.5

All scenarios(barring rainout) that the Cubs will trail the Brewers by after the 3 game set in Chicago. 2 are acceptable, 2 are not.

Back to 1 game under and 2 hot teams. Also both cold at the same time which is bad for the team trying to catch the frontrunner.

Atleast Capuano won't be pitching.

Fri Hill vs Gallardo
Sat Marshall vs Sheets
Sun Marquis vs Marquis

I'd like to see it to 3 games or less by the break.
post #87 of 188
A sweep is the only outcome that really changes anything. Most likely, it will be a 2 - 1 series and a 1 game swing in the standings. The way both teams are playing, it's hard to picture a sweep either way.

Given the bulge, it's likely that whatever happens, the Brewers will go into the All Star Game with the division lead. Pittsburgh and Washington make up the remainder of the road trip for the Brewers and it's likely they go at least 4 and 3. The Cubs have Washington and Pittsburgh too and are likely to at least match the Brewers.

That's the race in the NL Central.
post #88 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
4.5, 6.5, 8.5, 10.5
38-39 - still under .500.

But not "dead to you" anymore, I guess.
post #89 of 188
What's all this 'with the way the cubs are playing' crap? They just swept two reeling teams (one of which is one of the worst 2-3 teams in all of MLB) and suddenly people are having delusions of grandeur.
post #90 of 188
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I cheated and watched the 9th. Sweet swing by Ramirez.

back to .500 after a GREAT comeback win. Checking ESPN the Cubs blew it in the 1st giving up 5, Hill lasted 3 and the bullpen held.

Who is having delusions of grandeur? Cubs and Brewers are playing very well despite who their competion is. The Brewers beat up on 3 shitty teams but they still had to do it.

As of now the Cubs only have the ability to win the division, they'd be screwed in the playoffs. They will have to get a few trades to get better.
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post #92 of 188
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Ugly.
post #93 of 188
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Thanks to Marquis cat-like reflexes, bad defense by the Brewers and a bad call by the umps the Cubs get back to .500, 6 1/2 behind the Brewers for first and 5 games behind in the Wild Card Race.

Good News is the Cubs get @Washington and @Pittsburg for 7 games. Bad news is the Brewers get @Pittsburg and @Washington for 7 games. Don't expect to gain ground. Better not lose any.
post #94 of 188
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Baby steps. Cubs got to .500 and are now 1 game over. Now it's time to get a few games over so when you lose it's not back to even. Luckily the Cubs face the 2 worst hitting teams in the NL so getting 5 or 7 games over .500 by the All Star break isn't impossible.

Lilly found the groove after walking the first 2 batters, striking out the next 2 then getting a ground out.

And the offense is doing a great job by scoring early and giving the pitchers some room for error.

With Dempster out Carlos Marmol has been getting the look late and he may stay there or atleast giv the Cubs a great 8th inning guy. He has a nasty slider.

More good news is the Cubs are beginning to win at home. And to start off the 2nd half they get 11 straight at home w/ Houston, SF, and Arizona. Big chance to get 10+ games over .500 by then and have a shot at the division.
post #95 of 188
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42-40 and now 5.5 games back of the Brewers.

Zambrano got his 10th win and looked ok. Lotta pitches though.

Rich Hill needs to step up tomorrow. He's facing a gog in Chico. Then it's Marshall vs Bergmann.

Time to step it up.
post #96 of 188
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43-41

The NL Central might be a race after all. Cubs gained 2 games while the Brewers lost 3/4 to the Pirates.

And now the Cubs send their 3 best agains the Bucs.

Marquis vs Maholm(L)
Lilly vs Van Benschoten(R)
Z vs Youman(L)

Only downside is 2 lefties and for some reason the Cubs struggle against lefties and havent seen much of these 3 pitchers. Just glad no Ian Snell.

Hoping the Cubs can hold serve to say within 4.5 games. I'm just glad they clawed back. Unusual for a Cub team.
post #97 of 188
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44-43 at the break 4.5 back DIV, 3.5 WC

Good news/Bad news

Bad-Cubs lose 2/3 to the shitty Bucs.

Good-Brewers lose 2/3 to the shittier Nats and the Cubs remain 4.5 back in the division.

Still alot of work to do. Bullpen help is needed bad.
But the Brewers aren't much and the division is there for the taking.
post #98 of 188
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
Bad-Cubs lose 2/3 to the shitty Bucs.

Yeah, suck it. My guys might have incompetent ownership. They might be on their way to a 15th consecutive losing season. They might not see the playoffs again during my lifetime. On the bright side, though, they've won a world series (or five) since the close of Teddy Roosevelt's presidency.
post #99 of 188
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Originally Posted by Rex Hudler
My guys...
Speaking of your guys, Jason Bay will be a great compliment to Aramis Ramirez. Might as well give him to us for Ronny Cenano and cash. Hows Bobby Hill doing?

While the Cubs may finish last once in a while The Pirates will always be there.
post #100 of 188
All right. Now that hurt.
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