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post #51 of 61
7/4/07 at 9:52pm
I wouldn't call it epic at all. It has a more power metal feel to it, though, particularly on tracks like Honest Goodbye or New Dark Ages.
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post #52 of 61
7/5/07 at 12:14am
Goddamn. I swore I wouldn't buy another BR album but you guys are tempting me.
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post #53 of 61
7/5/07 at 4:29am
Is it just me or is there a lot of weird static-y synth in a few of the songs?
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post #54 of 61
7/5/07 at 8:58am
On the way to work, I decided as I was listening to the album that it's basically what would happen if Against the Grain and No Substance had a baby. That's both good and bad. Good, because it's got all the good songwriting and hooks of Against the Grain, crossed with the more hard rock elements of No Substance, and bad because, well, it's a good Bad Religion, but that's really it. It feels a bit like they're spinning their wheels after their resurgence.
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post #55 of 61
7/5/07 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
On the way to work, I decided as I was listening to the album that it's basically what would happen if Against the Grain and No Substance had a baby. That's both good and bad. Good, because it's got all the good songwriting and hooks of Against the Grain, crossed with the more hard rock elements of No Substance, and bad because, well, it's a good Bad Religion, but that's really it. It feels a bit like they're spinning their wheels after their resurgence.


I agree, though I appreciate No Substance more than a lot of their fans do (as I think it's a pretty great "hard rock" album - minus a couple terrible songs in the middle). I especially think Requiem for Dissent is such a great song. Honest Goodbye is fine but is really a bit of a throwaway, since they will never do better than Infected or some of the other older slow songs. They've been calling it their "Weezer song" and that's not too terribly off-base. Overall though I think it's a great album, but a dip in quality since the last two records.

I still have only heard this thing twice though, I'm waiting til Tuesday to buy it.

I haven't noticed staticy synth, but I'm glad about that piano on the last track, especially since they've used piano as far back as the first track on their first album.
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post #56 of 61
7/5/07 at 1:45pm
I have a bit of a soft spot for No Substance, but it's still my least favorite album. I do like the more hard rock leanings of it, and that they've carried over to New Maps of Hell, I just think overall it's a weak effort. No Substance just didn't have any fire behind it, and most of the songs felt like sorry retreads of past efforts.
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post #57 of 61
7/5/07 at 3:50pm
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You like it less than The New America?

Now that album makes me sick to my stomach.
Songs like "World Without Melody" and "I Love My Computer" seem like a real low-point.
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post #58 of 61
7/5/07 at 4:15pm
New America is the one Bad Religion album I'd have no problem losing.

Maps of Hell is a fuckin killer throwback to their earlier stuff. My one issue though is with the lyrics - which have always been one of their biggest draws for me. Is it just me, or do they come across as even more clinical and detached than usual?
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post #59 of 61
7/5/07 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
You like it less than The New America?

Now that album makes me sick to my stomach.
Songs like "World Without Melody" and "I Love My Computer" seem like a real low-point.
Overall, yeah. We've been through this rigamarole before.
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post #60 of 61
7/5/07 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Quarant
New America is the one Bad Religion album I'd have no problem losing.

Maps of Hell is a fuckin killer throwback to their earlier stuff. My one issue though is with the lyrics - which have always been one of their biggest draws for me. Is it just me, or do they come across as even more clinical and detached than usual?

You know, I think most Bad Religion albums I love always are the more detached ones. Dunno, why.

New America has ONE good thing going for it: It had the first song with Brett back in a long time and it felt like there was hope on the horizon when I'd hear it.

And No Substance gets overlooked too often. It has some gems in there alongside the crappy artwork.

BTW, They played Recipe For Hate at Warped. I LOVE hearing that song live.
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post #61 of 61
7/5/07 at 11:18pm
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Originally Posted by Vader
You know, I think most Bad Religion albums I love always are the more detached ones. Dunno, why.

New America has ONE good thing going for it: It had the first song with Brett back in a long time and it felt like there was hope on the horizon when I'd hear it.

And No Substance gets overlooked too often. It has some gems in there alongside the crappy artwork.

BTW, They played Recipe For Hate at Warped. I LOVE hearing that song live.

Although I'll take the crappy No Substance art over the crappy Process of Belief art.
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