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post #1 of 51
3/24/07 at 10:53am
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Been awhile since we had a thread like this 'round these parts. Who's your favorite movie slasher and why? Freddy? Jason? Norman Bates? Or do you maverick away from the franchises and say Henry from "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"?

For my money, you can't get better than Michael Myers from the "Halloween" films. That expresionless mask is just so creepy. And he never says a word or even utters a sound. Inexorable; unstoppable. He can't be killed. I know this can be said of Jason & Freddy too, but unlike them, Michael never got made into a parody of himself like the others did. He was never a joke, no matter how bad the movies (Like "Halloween IV") ever got. And you always have to give him props because he was the villain in the movie that arguably started the slasher trend as we know it. Al wrote an article a few months ago that said "Halloween" was placed in the Library of Congress as a film with cultural and historical importance.

So that's my two cents. Whadda you lot think?
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post #2 of 51
3/24/07 at 11:56am
I'll second Michael Myers. Krueger only worked well in his first flick, Jason in his second. They've become parodies of themselves ever since.
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post #3 of 51
3/24/07 at 12:05pm
Does Christian Bale in American Psycho count?
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post #4 of 51
3/24/07 at 12:26pm
Jack Valenti... Thank you!
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post #5 of 51
3/24/07 at 1:19pm
My vote goes for either The Guy in PIECES, The Guy in MANIAC, or The Girl (Spoiler!) in NAIL GUN MASSACRE.

Rent this, it's really, really good:

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post #6 of 51
3/24/07 at 1:19pm
Leatherface. Dude wears a tie.
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post #7 of 51
3/24/07 at 2:12pm
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer - movie was IMO the creepiest of the slasher pics, mostly because much of it was based on real events (watch the scene where Henry takes out the mom and her kid, with everything captured on videocamera - damned if that wasn't uncomfortable to watch).

As to the franchises, gotta go with Brad and vote Leatherface. The first Texas Chainsaw Massacre was hard-fuckin'-core. Hanging someone up by a meathook is pretty harsh.
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post #8 of 51
3/24/07 at 2:56pm
Leslie Vernon. He respects those who have come before him and just wants to be considered one of the gang.

Plus the guy had to do a ton of cardio so he can run after teenagers and then stop on a dime to make it look like he's just walking.
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post #9 of 51
3/24/07 at 3:19pm
The original Freddy Kruegar, back when he was still kept in the shadows, acted like the boogeyman, and looked like he probably had a hard-on in his pants (Parts 1 and 2).

He didn't just want to kill the little girls, he wanted to slick their hair back and pretend they were little boys. And that, to me, is scary as hell.
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post #10 of 51
3/24/07 at 4:35pm
Vote number three for Myers. Having a director as talented as Carpenter on hand certainly helped to make him the most immediately iconic of slashers.
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post #11 of 51
3/24/07 at 5:02pm
Michael Myers. Halloween is the first film I ever saw, so I was introduced to horror very early on (thanks, Mom!) and the film remains a major influence on me in my own creative endeavors. And not for nothing, but Myers also still has one of the best slasher movie kills ever - the butcher knife impalement.
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post #12 of 51
3/24/07 at 5:50pm
what about the time that michael myers had a stare down with busta rhymez, who was also dressed as michael myeres. that was pretty lame. the best slasher is that chick with a wang in sleepaway camp. angela tore it up.
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post #13 of 51
3/24/07 at 5:59pm
Michael Bennett
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post #14 of 51
3/24/07 at 5:59pm
Ben from Man Bites Dog (C'est arrivé près de chez vous).

Here's a normal guy who just likes killing for fun. A truly scary fucker.
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post #15 of 51
3/24/07 at 6:00pm
Does the truck from Duel count? If not then I'm going with Matt Cordell from Maniac Cop.
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post #16 of 51
3/24/07 at 6:12pm
Michael.
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post #17 of 51
3/24/07 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by teledork
Does Christian Bale in American Psycho count?
He most certainly does. His character was definitely the most stylized. Who else would wear an Armani suit anda Burberry shirt, put on a rain slicker, turn on Huey Lewis & the News, and hack some poor bastard to pieces? The fact that he was intended to be (& IMO succeeded as) a dark parody of the timesadds to the chills, too. Nice call.
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post #18 of 51
3/24/07 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
My vote goes for either The Guy in PIECES, The Guy in MANIAC, or The Girl (Spoiler!) in NAIL GUN MASSACRE.
I liked Maniac mainly for the gore. The killer was pretty cool, but I like the supernatural element Michael myers brings to it. If we were to limit the field to just human killers w/ no supernatural elements to them, IMO ya gotta go w/ Hannibal. Who DIDN'T get the creeps, yet get strangely attracted to the character of Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs"? Even if you don't want to be a cannibal, you DO wanna be that fucking cool.
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post #19 of 51
3/25/07 at 10:31am
Myers, Jason and the rest of the braindead murder-machines bore the crap out of me. My vote goes to Charles Lee Ray aka Chucky. He's seriously underrated and Brad Dourif's voice gives me the creeps.
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post #20 of 51
3/25/07 at 10:37am
Chucky's like a stupider version of Freddy. At least Krueger was vaguely menacing.
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post #21 of 51
3/25/07 at 11:01am
Hmmmm...
I have to be really boring here and go for Norman Bates.
Halloween's excellent, but... I find Psycho the more iconic film.

That said, I haven't seen Les Diaboliques yet.

Candyman is also worth a vote. Fine film.
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post #22 of 51
3/25/07 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by Xagarath Ankor
Hmmmm...
Candyman is also worth a vote. Fine film.

Damn right. good call. That movie disturbed me for weeks.
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post #23 of 51
3/25/07 at 12:36pm
Hrmmmm. Candyman is a damn fine call.
And I'd say May. But that may just be my impotent feminist rage speaking;P
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post #24 of 51
3/25/07 at 12:59pm
My favorite horror franchise is Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy Krueger is the most unique slasher (unique look, unique method, even has his own customized weapon) around and ALL those films, good and bad, had WONDERFUL effect, make-up and set design. Even when he was silly, he never became an anti-hero (he was always the villian, even in Freddy Vs. Jason more sympathy was given to Jason) and he had the support of Dokken.

Dokken.
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post #25 of 51
3/25/07 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by Ian Challis
Chucky's like a stupider version of Freddy. At least Krueger was vaguely menacing.
But Chucky's a talking doll... You just can't beat that.
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post #26 of 51
3/25/07 at 1:23pm
Yes. Yes you can.
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post #27 of 51
3/25/07 at 4:44pm
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Give me a big enough stick. . . .
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post #28 of 51
3/25/07 at 7:30pm
Otis B. Driftwood from The Devil's Rejects.
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post #29 of 51
3/25/07 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
My favorite horror franchise is Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy Krueger is the most unique slasher (unique look, unique method, even has his own customized weapon) around and ALL those films, good and bad, had WONDERFUL effect, make-up and set design. Even when he was silly, he never became an anti-hero (he was always the villian, even in Freddy Vs. Jason more sympathy was given to Jason) and he had the support of Dokken.

Dokken.
Plus, he rapped with the Fat Boys.

The Fat Boys.
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post #30 of 51
3/26/07 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by BubWilliams
Otis B. Driftwood from The Devil's Rejects.
Over Captain Spalding?! The HELL you say!
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post #31 of 51
3/26/07 at 12:22am
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
Over Captain Spalding?! The HELL you say!
Otis has a better beard.
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post #32 of 51
3/26/07 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by JPL
Leslie Vernon.
I'd give it to Leslie's old mentor first. Leslie was a charming dude. But that old guy... he made me nervous any time he was on screen.
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post #33 of 51
3/26/07 at 1:08pm

dokken

dokken did NOT support freddy. they were firm backers of the film's protagonists- The Dream Warriors.
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post #34 of 51
3/26/07 at 1:09pm
otis was sleeping with that corpse so I think we all know which one was cooler.
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post #35 of 51
3/26/07 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin VanNatter
dokken did NOT support freddy. they were firm backers of the film's protagonists- The Dream Warriors.
I always assumed they were being ironic, mocking them, like a hair metal David Patrick Kelly.

"Dream Warriors....come out and plaaaaaaaaaayayayyyyyyyyy"
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post #36 of 51
3/26/07 at 1:14pm
i never thought of it like that. come to think of it, they WERE being ironic. those bastards! I thought they were boys with Kincaid.
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post #37 of 51
3/26/07 at 1:38pm
I was always partial to Frank Zito, even with all his mom issues and his strange collection of scalps.

Also, that guy in Microwave Massacre. He had one big-ass microwave!
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post #38 of 51
3/26/07 at 2:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
My favorite horror franchise is Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy Krueger is the most unique slasher (unique look, unique method, even has his own customized weapon) around and ALL those films, good and bad, had WONDERFUL effect, make-up and set design. Even when he was silly, he never became an anti-hero (he was always the villian, even in Freddy Vs. Jason more sympathy was given to Jason) and he had the support of Dokken.

Dokken.
Yeah.. pity a fair bit of them was ripped off Phantasm, really/

(I should add here that if the Tall Man was actually a slasher, he would have been my first pick)
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post #39 of 51
3/26/07 at 2:22pm
A fair bit of what? Effects? Films?

I've seen Phantasm (the first one, at least) and I'm having difficulty seeing any real connection.
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post #40 of 51
3/26/07 at 3:30pm
i love phantasm and i don't get that either. are you saying freddy ripped off tall man?
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post #41 of 51
3/27/07 at 5:33am
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Originally Posted by Kevin VanNatter
i love phantasm and i don't get that either. are you saying freddy ripped off tall man?
Plenty agree with me that both the atmosphere and dream control of Nightmare is taken from Phantasm.
In fact, I saw it brought up on this very forum a while back.
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post #42 of 51
3/27/07 at 5:36am
That's pretty vague, and the "dream control" is not a big aspect of Phantasm at all. I can sort of see the similar atmospheres, almost, but really any similarities are superficial and certainly not enough to be a legitimate detraction from the Nightmare series.
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post #43 of 51
3/27/07 at 6:17am
While NOES is a *thematic* descendant of Phantasm and both of the films have a broadly "similar" boogeyman antagonist, I'm not entirely ready to claim that NOES needs to tip its hat to the film. At the end of the day, the Tall Man does have something over Krueger as a villain in that he was able to literally alter reality as well as invade dreams - the latter ability being pretty superfluous when you consider the former.

NOES and Phantasm also share a similar ending, but NOES's ending speaks to the inescability of sleeping / dreaming / death, Phantasm's ending, and the film in general, never really seemed so interested in the metaphysical and philosophical debate that Craven was pursuing. That's not to say that Phantasm is inferior - In terms of entertainment value, I actually prefer to watch it over NOES - it's just that the Coscarelli and Craven have different values as filmmakers and I think the connatural element of their respective projects is widely superficial.
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post #44 of 51
3/27/07 at 7:59am
That reminds me... Where the hell is Bubba Nosferatu?
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post #45 of 51
3/27/07 at 4:49pm
Michael Myers. I just love how he never runs and takes his time. Inhumanly patient. I also love the look of Ghost Face from Scream.

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post #46 of 51
3/27/07 at 5:38pm
Question the First: How have so many of you seen "Behind the Mask"? I thought it hadn't been released yet. Regardless, I'm extremely jealous because I've been waiting for this film for, approximately, forever.

Question the Second: When did Freddy guest on a Fat Boys joint? I've never heard of this, but am entirely intrigued. I remember the whole Fresh Prince "Nightmare On My Street" thing (But Freddy killed all that noise real quick/ He grabbed me by my shoulders, said "Here's what we'll do"/ "We got alot of work now, me and you"/ "The souls of your friends you and I will drain"/ "You've got the body and I've got the brains..."), but not the Fat Boys. Interesting.

Conjecture the First: Dokken did support the Dream Warriors. In fact, Dokken is what Freddy has nightmares about. It's clearly depicted herein, although they do seem heavily invested in terrifying Patricia Arquette.

As for my choice of best slasher, I'll go with Jason. Call it a sentimental choice (I was so terrified of him as a tiny tot that my parents had to change the channel whenever hockey came on the television).
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post #47 of 51
3/27/07 at 5:44pm
It was released 2 weeks ago, but in a limited release. But EVERYONE who can see this, should.

As for the Fat Boys joint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgOx7-z-lmg Sadly youtube took down the actual video, but this video has the song about 2 minutes in.

I think that video confirms it: Dokken was a third party independent.
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post #48 of 51
3/27/07 at 6:47pm
Dario Argento. None of the characters. That dude just scares me.
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post #49 of 51
3/27/07 at 7:23pm
Michael Myers. I love ze boogeyman.
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post #50 of 51
3/27/07 at 8:59pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattioli
As for my choice of best slasher, I'll go with Jason. Call it a sentimental choice (I was so terrified of him as a tiny tot that my parents had to change the channel whenever hockey came on the television).
The only time he terrified me, and he truly, truly did, was at the end of the 1st film, when the surviving chick has the dream about being rescued and he comes out of the lake to grab her, all rotted and decomposed. I have an aunt who likes horror movies, and she spoiled it for me and I was STILL spooked big time. After that, even when he wasn't being comical, he just never lit my fire. He's an iconic figure, no doubt, and I have enjoyed some of the sequels, but scary? I never thought so after the 1st film.
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