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Iraq law to lift ban on Baathists

post #1 of 11
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According to the BBC, the Iraqi government is going to introduce to it's parliment a new law to reform the de-Baathification procedures that occured after Saddam's removal.

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The Iraqi government plans to bring in a new law to allow former members of ex-president Saddam Hussein's Baath party to return to official posts.

The law creates a three-month period for the ex-members to be challenged, after which they will be immune from prosecution over the Saddam era.

If ratified, it will replace the de-Baathification programme that was created to eject key party members.
I think this is good news if it passes. Coupled with the new Iraqi Oil Law that will also be presented to the Iraqi Parliment in the next month or so, it will really help to bring in the moderate Sunnis to cooperate with the government. If Iraq is going to return to peace and stay a single country, the different ethnic groups are going to have to trust each other and settle their disputes politically instead of with car bombs and death squads.

With some of the Sunni Tribes in the Anbar province already starting to fight the Al Qaeda groups in their cities, knowing that they will get a fair share of oil revenue and their jobs and pensions back will help their motivation.

The last big political hurdle if those two laws are passed, is reforms to the Constitution that all sides can agree too. I think that will be the hardest of the three. They have set up committees to explore it but I think it will take awhile before anything happens.
post #2 of 11
The Iraqi Oil Law allows for foreign companies to come in and take most of the profits (practically) with them. It's a horrible law that will eventually bring most of the people together to fight against these foreign companies that they think are stealing the country out from under them. The richer Iraqis will do fine by the new law (in my opinion), but I don't see too much that's gonna make the poorer Iraqis happy here in the long run.
post #3 of 11
The new oil law is disastrous. It's essentially legitimized looting and what Cheney's energy pals get in exchange for all the blood shed in Iraq since the invasion.
post #4 of 11
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Every law has it's problems, critics and backers. The Iraqi oil industry is going to need foreign investment if it is going to recover and rebuild and foreign companies are not going to invest in dangerous areas for dirt cheap.

Anyway, the most important thing about the law is that if it is implemented correctly, it divides the revenues between the provinces by population and contracts have to approved by the central government. This will reduce the fears of the Sunnis of being left out from the oil riches in the Kurdish & Shiite areas. That is a good thing.

The Oil Law can always be amended in a more peaceful future if it needs to by elected representatives. I am not going to hold my breath waiting for some utopian Oil Law in this bitter sectarian environment. Just getting them to agree to share the wealth would be a big step.

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The richer Iraqis will do fine by the new law (in my opinion), but I don't see too much that's gonna make the poorer Iraqis happy here in the long run.
If they sectarian killing goes away and money starts to go into rebuilding their country, I am sure the poorer Iraqis will appreciate the new law a great deal. The richer will always get richer, what's new.

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The new oil law is disastrous. It's essentially legitimized looting and what Cheney's energy pals get in exchange for all the blood shed in Iraq since the invasion.
What kind of Oil Law would you propose? Was it better when all the Oil revenue went to Saddam and his cronies and building rich palaces? When he had to be forced to spend his oil revenues on food for his own people by the U.N.? When oil contracts were divvied out by who paid the biggest bribes to a dictator?
post #5 of 11
You make some good points, but...

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Originally Posted by NoahtheStud
What kind of Oil Law would you propose? Was it better when all the Oil revenue went to Saddam and his cronies and building rich palaces? When he had to be forced to spend his oil revenues on food for his own people by the U.N.? When oil contracts were divvied out by who paid the biggest bribes to a dictator?
you need to cut this shit out like 3 years ago.
post #6 of 11
I would propose the kind of oil laws that don't benefit the invaders.
post #7 of 11
First they prosecute the rapists, now they want to stop the pillagers. Invading has lost its charms.
post #8 of 11
If a federal breakup of Iraq occurs, and a parliamentary system still exists, oil revenue should be controlled on a percentage basis relative to the population of each region. Foreign powers taking control of Iraq's oil revenue is exploitation, regardless of all the points you make, Noah The Stud. The Bush administration raped the Iraqi people in the aftermath of the invasion (with Rumsfeld's "flowers and honey" $#!% the equivalent of "she was asking for it"). Taking control of their resources makes the US officially a pimp, and not the Snoop Dogg/Huggie Bear lovable pimp; the Harvey Keitel/Sport noxious, deceptive and abusive variety.
post #9 of 11
From JuanCole.com:


Sunni Arab politicians meeting in Amman, Jordan are critical of the draft Iraqi petroleum law that has been presented to parliament by the Iraqi cabinet. The Monday Morning (Beirut) article contains these quotes:


' Faleh al-Khayat, a former head of planning at the Oil Ministry, warned that “major foreign oil firms are greedy and will covet Iraq’s oil wealth” if the bill is adopted. “If Iraq’s giant oilfields are developed, they would yield 80 percent of Iraq’s proven reserves estimated at 115 billion barrels”, he argued.

MP Saleh Mutlak of Iraq’s National Dialogue Front echoed him: “We have no need of foreign companies. We’re experienced enough to reap the fruit of our wealth”. Mutlak also said he feared the bill may not live up to government hopes that it will unify Iraq. “We don’t want a new law that will further divide us. We need a law that will unite the Iraqi people”. . . Motlak said Parliament in Baghdad should not ratify the bill “until we reach the appropriate climate for investments in Iraq”.

MP Ali Mashhadani agreed. “Our oil wealth is black gold that must be kept underground until security conditions are appropriate to take advantage of it. It has been entrusted to our safekeeping by the people we represent”. According to Mashhadani “Iraq has sold 125 billion dollars’ worth of oil since the start of the US-led occupation.” The Iraqi people have not benefited from this revenue and “are eating garbage”, Mashhadani said, suggesting that income from oil sales be given to the people in the form of state-subsidized “monthly ration cards” . . .
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
You make some good points, but...

you need to cut this shit out like 3 years ago.
It is my knee-jerk reaction when I am responding to a blood-for-oil type comment which annoys me just as much as my response did for you.

People critize how Oil revenues will be generated & spent compared to some "perfect standard" instead of how bad it was just four years ago under Saddam. Iraq has to take small steps toward a just & beneficial system of dispersing Oil money throughout the country. Trust between the groups has to be built over time.

The current situation where oil is controlled by the Shiite and Kurdish regions can start to be fixed by the Oil Law. If the Sunnis can start getting oil money going their way, maybe they will stop attacking oil pipelines and refineries and Iraq will have money to actually rebuild their country and the common Iraqi won't have to stand in line all day for fuel for their car or generator.

In the future, the elected Iraqi government can take away contracts from corporations if they feel like they are being exploited. A peaceful Democratic Iraq sitting on one of the biggest oil deposits in the world will be able to pick and choose between desperate companies who want a chance to work in their country or they could change the law and nationalize the industry when it is back up on its feet.
post #11 of 11
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Finally! But I guess I am not surprised. The political process is so as molasses in Iraq.

BBC - Iraqi oil bill sent to parliament

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Iraq's oil minister says a long-awaited draft oil and gas law has been sent to parliament for approval.

The bill, seen as crucial in regulating how oil wealth is divided among Iraq's ethnic and religious groups, received cabinet backing in February.
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The draft law seeks to allocate oil and gas revenues equally between Iraq's 18 provinces, in proportion to their populations.

The US has been pressing for the law to be approved as quickly as possible, believing it will help bring the different ethnic and sectarian groups together.

The BBC's Andrew North in Baghdad says there has been criticism that the law gives too many concessions to foreign oil companies planning to invest - a charge Iraq's oil ministry denies.
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