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Boston Red Sox 2007: Rolling the Dice-K

post #1 of 113
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Some thoughts going into the season:

- Dice-K. Could be great. Unfortunately it seems like anything short of 15 wins will be considered a disappointment. Hopefully that won't weigh on him. I still think he's got a good shot at a 16-8, sub-4.00 ERA type season.

- I started to feel a lot better about the upcoming season when Papelbon went back into the bullpen. It certainly ends the closer issue (the thought of platooning again made me very nervous). And it leaves the fifth starter position open if and when Jon Lester is able to go. Hopefully Tavarez will keep rolling on like he did at the end of last year.

- New faces. J.D. Drew could be a huge pick-up, if he stays healthy. Huge if. Wily Mo is a nice player but he's still growing into himself and it could get dicey if he has to pick up a lot of time in right if Drew gets hurt. I don't know what to think about Lugo yet. Gonzalez was a brilliant defensive shortstop. But Lugo seems like a true leadoff hitter, which we didn't have last year after Damon left. Don't know about Dustin Pedroia yet either. Loretta was solid last year. Hopefully Pedroia can keep his average above .250, but more importantly he needs to play solid defense.

- Although I hope it wouldn't be at the expense of injury, I'd really like to see Devern Hansack crack the big league team roster this season. The guy's electric.

It's certainly going to be tough keeping up with NY and Toronto this year. With Bedard the Orioles will be good to win a few, and the Rays always play hard. Maybe they'll come together with their youngsters this year.

Let's get it started.
post #2 of 113
I think this will be a great season for the Sox. Today doesn't count of course.
post #3 of 113
With the Yankees pitching injuries, the Sox have a chance to jump out in front. We'll see what happens.
post #4 of 113
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They certainly came out flat today but I think that had as much to do with Meche than anything. Meche owned them today, and Peralta closed things down nicely on the back end.

But those 4 pm games are dicey because of the shadows. Tough to pick up the breaking pitches.
post #5 of 113
The Royals own the Sox so it's to be expected. Looking around MLB, could we (the Sox) have used any of these players?

Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG

H Ramirez SS 6 4 4 1 0 0 0 .667
T Nixon RF 4 3 3 0 1 1 0 .750
J Damon CF 2 1 1 0 1 0 1 .500
E RenteriaSS 5 2 2 3 0 0 0 .400 Two HR's

That being said, I'm really excited for Beckett's start tomorrow night. I think he'll have a great year. And then we get Dice-K on Thursday. Awesome.
post #6 of 113
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Possibly Ramirez or Damon.

With the other two, yeah, they had good days, but Trot just isn't a full-season player anymore (he might have been as a DH, but that wasn't happening), and Renteria just couldn't hack it in Boston. (Though when I saw that he'd hit two HRs I threw up in mouth a little.)
post #7 of 113
Renteria is back in the NL, though. Doesn't count.

What an ass kicking by KC. Hope it's not a sign of things to come...
post #8 of 113
The Yankees have too much shit in their closet. I think this might be the Sox's year.
post #9 of 113
'Too much shit in their closet'?
post #10 of 113
Fantastic win for the Sox last night. It was great to see them give Beckett a 3-0 lead before he threw a pitch, and it was great to see Beckett take advantage. Three errors from Lowell were simply crazy to watch, but I'm glad he did that in a game where the Sox won easily.

Currently Dice-K has a 1-hitter going...hopefully the Sox will add to their 1-0 lead.
post #11 of 113
Splendid performance by Matsuzaka. Hope he keeps it us. My favorite part of the game was that David Ortiz, who had already struck out three times, upon finding out that Greinke was no longer pitching, performed cartwheels outside of the dugout. And then he hit a double....and then he struck out again. I hope Matsuzaka pitches one of the two Red Sox/Diamondbacks games I have tickets for.
post #12 of 113
As Bill Simmons says in his latest article, Greinke's performance will be overshadowed by Dice-K mania. Hell of a game, and something the Royals can hopefully build on. I also hope Alex Gordon's able to get some more hits as there is indeed an enormous amount of pressure on the kid.

Thank you Red Sox for signing Dice-K. It's extremely early, but damn if that wasn't a wonderful game. Tickets are gonna be at a premium when he pitches for sure.
post #13 of 113
Papelbon is ridiculous.
post #14 of 113
Damn right he is. So glad they decided to keep him in the closer position where he belongs. Schilling is back in the zone as well. And Ortiz is making up for not having any home runs by....hitting two in a row, providing all of the runs for the Sox tonight.
post #15 of 113
Bottom of the 7th, and the Sox are up 13-1. Guess a little dose of Fenway was exactly what the offense needed to get going. As a bonus, Josh Beckett is currently pitching a 2-hit gem. That's two in a row for him (so far). G'dam that's encouraging.
post #16 of 113
All this is interesting, but the real drama today is my decision as to use my waiver pick (I have the #2 slot) to acquire the recently dropped Kevin Youkilis in my 11 team, 25 man roster rotisserie fantasy league.
post #17 of 113
Absolutely lovely way to start things at Fenway, but what was up with the altercation between Brendan Donnelley and Jose Guillen? Donnelley didn't even come close to hitting him, so what was that all about? Tomorrow's game is televised here in AZ, so it'll be great to finally see Matsuzaka in action.
post #18 of 113
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Originally Posted by Tim Pedersen
Absolutely lovely way to start things at Fenway, but what was up with the altercation between Brendan Donnelley and Jose Guillen? Donnelley didn't even come close to hitting him, so what was that all about? Tomorrow's game is televised here in AZ, so it'll be great to finally see Matsuzaka in action.
How does this help me with my Youkilis waiver decision?
post #19 of 113
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Originally Posted by Tim Pedersen
Absolutely lovely way to start things at Fenway, but what was up with the altercation between Brendan Donnelley and Jose Guillen? Donnelley didn't even come close to hitting him, so what was that all about? Tomorrow's game is televised here in AZ, so it'll be great to finally see Matsuzaka in action.
There's history between the two of them. When Donnelley played for the Angels, Guillen called him out during a bench-clearing fight, or something like that. So naturally, they had to get into it yet again last night.

Huge game tonight with Dice-K vs. Felix Hernandez. What a spectacular pitching match-up.
post #20 of 113
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There's history between the two of them. When Donnelley played for the Angels, Guillen called him out during a bench-clearing fight, or something like that. So naturally, they had to get into it yet again last night.
Their bad blood goes back for a while. When he played for the Nats, Guillen told the umps toe examine Donnelly's glove while he was pitching. They also didn't like each other when the played together on the Angels, and rumor has it (down here behind the Orange Curtain) that Guillen made a derisive comment about Donnelly being a replacment player back in the mid '90's.

You'll be happy to know that I was able to pick Youkilis up as a free agent early this morning without having to use my waiver claim!
post #21 of 113
Man, I knew this game was going to be competitive, but to be shut out with only one hit and two walks on Matsuzaka's Fenway debut will be looked at by many as a big disappointment, and Matsuzaka wasn't bad at all. Hernandez, on the other hand, wow. Big change from last year.
post #22 of 113
Yeah, I saw Felix as a guy who could get a bunch of K's, but give up almost as much runs. He's really grown into a gem of a pitcher.

Poor Matsy.
post #23 of 113
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Originally Posted by Zollicoffer
Yeah, I saw Felix as a guy who could get a bunch of K's, but give up almost as much runs. He's really grown into a gem of a pitcher.

Poor Matsy.
Thankfully I was able to snag Felix in the sixth round (a slight reach, but I saw him really developing) and he's my number one pitcher by a mile thus far. And, since I picked up Youkilis today, his 0 for 3 won't hurt me!
post #24 of 113
I gotta admit, I didn't think we'd fare so well against Lackey. Seems there are a lot more aces out there than usual this year. But this team never ceases to amaze me. Every once in a while, Dave Mirabelli earns his paycheck, aside from just being able to handle Tim Wakefield's knuckleball. Wakefield himself was great as well. And of course there's Jonathan Papelbon. Once again, in a tight situation, with runners on the corners and only one out, he makes it look so easy with another K and a popout. The 6 runs in the eighth didn't hurt, either.
post #25 of 113
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Originally Posted by Tim Pedersen
And of course there's Jonathan Papelbon. Once again, in a tight situation, with runners on the corners and only one out, he makes it look so easy with another K and a popout.
I love Paps, but that was a lineout-not a popout-by Anderson, and easily could have been a double if Manny hadn't made a nice play.
post #26 of 113
You're right. I didn't have the benefit of actually seeing it on TV, so I had to settle for watching it on their website, via Gameday. Still a great performance. Today's game is looking great as well. Schilling continues to perform well, and Eric Hinske needs more game time.
post #27 of 113
David Ortiz was my first draft in two leagues, and his performance today made me quite happy. Sadly, it appears that the Angels bullpen managed to injure Youkilis sufficiently (by beaning him in the wrist) to keep him out today. I didn't notice it until after rosters had been set for the game, resulting in a dead position.

More updates on my fantasy squad(s) will be forthcoming.
post #28 of 113
It's too bad the opposing pitcher throws so damn well against Dice-K.
post #29 of 113
Damn, this is really frustrating. Dice-K is a really great pitcher, but he keeps getting into the unfortunate situation where he gets placed against a picther who is just a little bit (or in Felix Hernandez's case, a lot) better. I really think this will be a non-issue pretty soon, so I'm not worrying yet.
post #30 of 113
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Originally Posted by Tim Pedersen
Damn, this is really frustrating. Dice-K is a really great pitcher, but he keeps getting into the unfortunate situation where he gets placed against a picther who is just a little bit (or in Felix Hernandez's case, a lot) better. I really think this will be a non-issue pretty soon, so I'm not worrying yet.
What I'm worried about is the possibility that it seems sympomatic of how the year might go, i.e., we win every game 10-1 and we lose every game 2-1. Despite the fourth inning last night, Dice has pitched well enough to be 3-0, but so far he's not getting the run support he needs.

Still, that home run Wily Mo hit was a shot. Upper deck in straight away center.
post #31 of 113
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
Still, that home run Wily Mo hit was a shot. Upper deck in straight away center.
Ridiculous. I wish WMP could get more at-bats.
post #32 of 113
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Originally Posted by Poulsonator
Ridiculous. I wish WMP could get more at-bats.
Absolutely. The knock on him is plate discipline, but that won't improve without substantial at-bats. If Coco continues to struggle, I don't see why Wily Mo couldn't play center. He's not as fast as Coco obviously, but center, despite the ground to cover, is less tricky than right, where Wily Mo has more experience. Playing right, nearly every ball his has spin and tails one way or the other (not to mention dealing with caroms off the side). After learning (to some degree) how to do that, he could play center.
post #33 of 113
Coco had a great night (certainly not as great as A-Rod) in what turned out to be a stellar game. I've been waiting for Francona to give Hideki Okajima a good opportunity to show what he can do, and today he really did a great job, the Abreu walk notwithstanding. Man I love when these teams play each other, the games are never boring, regardless of the outcome. Usually right about now the articles about how Mariano Rivera is reaching the end of his career come out, but that was the second blown save in a row for him, both of which being pretty bad outings.
post #34 of 113
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
Absolutely. The knock on him is plate discipline, but that won't improve without substantial at-bats. If Coco continues to struggle, I don't see why Wily Mo couldn't play center. He's not as fast as Coco obviously, but center, despite the ground to cover, is less tricky than right, where Wily Mo has more experience. Playing right, nearly every ball his has spin and tails one way or the other (not to mention dealing with caroms off the side). After learning (to some degree) how to do that, he could play center.
This is another reason why it so tough for Ortiz to win MVP. If he could play decent defense at all he could play first base let WMP hit. WMP could hit 35 homers if he got 550 atbats. His defense short comings keep other good hitters who arent great defensively either out of the lineup. How is that a league MVP?
post #35 of 113
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Originally Posted by Wease
This is another reason why it so tough for Ortiz to win MVP. If he could play decent defense at all he could play first base let WMP hit. WMP could hit 35 homers if he got 550 atbats. His defense short comings keep other good hitters who arent great defensively either out of the lineup. How is that a league MVP?
But if Ortiz played in the field, where would Youkilis go? I suppose that would make Lowell expendable and Youkilis could take over at third. The issue then would be whether it was worth losing Lowell's bat to get Pena's. Between those two I'd say no.

Having said all that, Crisp certainly came up big tonight.
post #36 of 113
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero

Having said all that, Crisp certainly came up big tonight.
Sarcasm? Didn't Crisp look like a floundering a$$ as he fell over that wall?

Just to let you guys what's going on in my fantasy leagues, teams with A-Rod are dominating. His stats are so fucking ridiculous, they make even decent players look like Chicago Cubs middle infielders.
post #37 of 113
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Originally Posted by Overlord
Sarcasm? Didn't Crisp look like a floundering a$$ as he fell over that wall?
A bit (not helped by the fact that he misplayed a catchable ball anyway).

But I was being sincere, and I was referring to his going 2-4 with a game-tying triple. That triple was, you know, kind of a big deal in the win and stuff.
post #38 of 113
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Originally Posted by Poulsonator
It's too bad the opposing pitcher throws so damn well against Dice-K.
From your lips to god's ears. Yanks are throwing Chase Wright into the lion's den tonight. He's making his second major league start. Finger's crossed...
post #39 of 113
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
A bit (not helped by the fact that he misplayed a catchable ball anyway).

But I was being sincere, and I was referring to his going 2-4 with a game-tying triple. That triple was, you know, kind of a big deal in the win and stuff.
Seems like Coco Crisp basically erased his own mistake, leaving his entire performance a wash.

But, nice triple.
post #40 of 113
I was laughing like a little girl when Ramirez, Drew, Lowell and Varitek hit the four straight homers in the third. First Fenway sweep of the Yanks in 17 years. It was great. Dice-K finally got his second win, even if it wasn't the standout moment of the game. He looked a little nervous, what with this being his inaugural game in the great rivalry. He still did decent enough, getting 6-7 strikeouts, three of which were on Abreu alone.
post #41 of 113
Well, that was embarrasing.
post #42 of 113
Sox kicked their ass, but I laugh every time I see this silly as shit face:



How do batters not crack up?
post #43 of 113
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata
Sox kicked their ass, but I laugh every time I see this silly as shit face ... How do batters not crack up?
What, you wouldn't be intimidated if you saw Rick Schroeder giving you the evil eye from sixty feet away?

I can't remember which telecast it was for certain but I think it was Saturday's game on Fox, where Buck and McCarver brought that up, that mimicking Pap's look-in is the hot new thing among kids in Sox fandom. I thought, if I'd ever done that in wiffle ball as a kid I would've gotten my goofy ass kicked. And the whole time I would've thought, "Christ, I deserve this beat down. What was I thinking? I'm a pasty white kid."
post #44 of 113
He brings 98mph heat, but that's a goofy face on a man.
post #45 of 113
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What is it with the fucking Blue Jays?

Fuck.
post #46 of 113
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero
What is it with the fucking Blue Jays?

Fuck.
Par for the course. They always play us tough, especially when it's Roy Halladay vs. Julian Tavarez. At least the Yanks are currently losing, and the O's got swept.
post #47 of 113
And then the O's got swept again, by the Sox, and now we're back to trouncing the Yanks like last week. Funny how Dice-K gets losses when he only gives up 1 or 2 runs, while his wins consist of giving up 4-5 runs. Whatever it takes to a 'W' I guess. But aside from that bottom of the fourth yesterday, he seemed fine. Hopefully Wakefield can bounce back from his loss to the Jays. And, seeing that he's up against Karstens, I'm really not that worried. The only real problem we have in our rotation is Tavarez, and that will hopefully be fixed soon when Lester gets called back up in a month or so.
post #48 of 113
The Sox take 2 out of 3 in New York with a 7-4 win today. Awesome, awesome, awesome stuff.
post #49 of 113
It's a beautiful thing. It's nice to see Tavarez finally get a win. And now for a much-needed day off.
post #50 of 113
Alright, that one hurt.
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