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Pope Benedict 16.0: Rich countries have plundered the third world

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Pope Says Rich Nations "Plundered" Third World
Reuters

Wednesday 04 April 2007

Vatican City - Rich countries bent on power and profit have mercilessly "plundered and sacked" Africa and other poor regions and exported to them the "cynicism of a world without God," Pope Benedict writes in his first book.

The Pope also condemns drug trafficking and sexual tourism, saying they are signs of a world brimming with "people who are empty" yet living among abundant material goods.

One section of the book was printed in Wednesday's Corriere Della Sera daily before publication later this month by Italian publisher Rizzoli, which owns the newspaper. A Rizzoli spokeswoman confirmed the authenticity of the excerpts.

In the 400-page book, called "Jesus of Nazareth," the Pope offers a modern application of Jesus's parable of the Good Samaritan, who stopped to help a man who had been robbed by thieves when others, including a priest, had not.

"The current relevance of the parable is obvious," the Pope writes.

"If we apply it to the dimensions of globalised society today, we see how the populations of Africa have been plundered and sacked and this concerns us intimately," the Pope says in his book, which comes out on April 16, his 80th birthday.

He drew a link between the lifestyle of people in the developed world and the dire conditions of people in Africa.

Stripped Naked

"We see how our lifestyle, the history that involved us, has stripped them naked and continues to strip them naked," he writes.

The German Pope, who has condemned the effects of colonialism before, said rich countries had also hurt poor countries spiritually by belittling or trying to wipe out their own cultural and spiritual traditions.

"Instead of giving them God, the God close to us in Christ, and welcoming in their traditions all that is precious and great ... we have brought them the cynicism of a world without God, where only power and profit count ..." he writes.

The Pope says his comments were valid for other regions apart from Africa.

In what could be seen as a strong self-criticism of the Roman Catholic Church, whose missionary activities often went hand-in-glove with colonialism, the Pope writes:

"We destroyed (their) moral criteria to the point that corruption and a lust for power devoid of scruples have become obvious."
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Rich Nations' Response: The Pope's Stance on the Use of Condoms is Nonsensical and Fosters Misery amongst the Third World (more a "glass houses" argument than a refutation of the veracity of the Pope's opinions).
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Agree. But for someone to broach the subject of the developed nations playing an active and cynical role in the destruction and chaos of the third world is so refreshing to hear. Especially from a man whom segments of the population might listen to. I don't think most people - or Americans, anyway - understand that the misery they see in Africa and other third world countries is the direct result of western exploitation.
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I don't think most people - or Americans, anyway - understand that the misery they see in Africa and other third world countries is the direct result of western exploitation.
Or the result of Satan's handiwork. Of course, the misery and death of all these people means nothing if we can just save their souls!
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And encourage them to replicate like rabbits!
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Or the result of Satan's handiwork. Of course, the misery and death of all these people means nothing if we can just save their souls!
Where does he say that?
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The Catholic church's ridiculous stance on birth control doesn't make what he said any less true. Sure is a handy way to dismiss it, though!
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True. The world as I see it can use light wherever it comes from. The Catholic Church obviously has some soul searching to do, but that doesn't negate the possibility for grace. There needs to be a correction or at the very least an acknowledgment of the death and destruction western exploitation has effected in third world countries. I think it's a great thing for the Pope to bring it into the discourse.
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I think it's a great thing for the Pope to bring it into the discourse.
True. Of course, the delusional head of an organization devoted to superstitious worship might better direct his efforts towards the massive evils fostered by his own organization, but it was still nice of him to recite what just about everybody already knows: "First World countries exploit Third World Countries' natural resources and cheap labor pool, and this causes misery".

The Pope can't do much about this phenomenom, but he can do something about his organization's ludicrous stance on condoms (for example).
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The Pope can't do much about this phenomenom...
Well, for a start, he could sell some of the tens of millions of dollars worth of Art that line the halls of the Vatican, and redistribute the wealth to those who need it. Nah. That's just crazy talk. It's not as if the Messiah he worships would advocate helping those less fortuna- oh.
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The pope has a point, but why does God have anything to do with it? I mean besides the fact that its the Pope who's saying this....
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Well thank God Overlord is here to set the Pope straight, how dare he comment on world poverty!

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The pope has a point, but why does God have anything to do with it? I mean besides the fact that its the Pope who's saying this....
These are the types of subjects Churches in the US should be focusing on, not creationism.
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Great points all over, the sentiment is a good message out the mouth but the reality and double talk out the ass. I think what should have also been acknowledged are the growth of mega churches and how the effect is not just hurting 3rd world countries, by creating a population not giving two shits about them, Christianity, by saying buying your way to heaven is real no matter the lives ruined, or the Western Civilization's view of the world as a whole.
Understand, the bias against us is real and it's not like we've not earned it. While Pope Benedict did bring up valid issues, he also missed bigger issues in the process. The US isn't doing any favors although hopefully the new Africa command might change things, in a new administration with a replenished military.
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Well thank God Overlord is here to set the Pope straight, how dare he comment on world poverty!
Must you be a facetious ass? The pope is the head of an organization whose policies (intentional or not) orchestrate human misery on a vast scale. Rather than worry about things he has, at best, peripheral control over, maybe he should focus on changing the policies of the Catholic Church. What he said about third world exploitation is true, but it's hard to take him seriously as an arbiter as morality when with a simple edict he could improve the lives of millions of people.
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The only reason, I believe, that the Catholic church is so 'worried' about the third world is because they are a not fully tapped potential resource. That's why they are against condoms and spread lies about them, ex. they don't protect against STD's so there's no reason for you to use them. No condoms and no exploitations by rich countries means more people to listen to their every word and fill their bank accounts. Where was the Catholic church during the Holocaust? Oh yeah, those were Jews. Not potential Catholics. No reason to try to save them. Didn't the church order it's priests to try to help any fugitive Nazis who seeked sanctuary by giving them papers that helped them flee to countries like Argentina?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Catholic church like to pick and choose what they take a stand against based on whether or not it benefits them.
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CHUD should have put Archbishop Oscar Romero in his place while he was still alive.
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And you should stop acting like the Pope is as unquestionable as God himself.
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From a Catholic viewpoint, the Pope is as unquestionable as God, Himself.

At least...according to dogma...and only when he's speaking "ex cathedra"
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FUCK the Pope.
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Well,more proof that atheists can be just as bigoted as the worst religous fantatic.
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