CHUD NUMBERS: Box Office Discussion Thread - Page 271

Rotten Tomatoes of TDKR is currently at 86%. Any guesses on where it will go towards the end of the week? I'm expecting a dash of backlash and ending at 82%. 
 

Just saw DARK KNIGHT RISES. I punched myself every time something awesome happened. Tweeting this from the hospital.-Patton Oswalt

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Do you think if you waved this pic in front of enough angry Batnerds that they'd become calmed in a "soothes the savage beast" kinda way?

Nah, they'd probably be like, "Weirdly shaped midsection. 7/10 at best.  Might bang if drunk enough."

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

 

Nah, they'd probably be like, "Weirdly shaped midsection. 7/10 at best.  Might bang if drunk enough."

Worst. Ice pop. Ever.

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Originally Posted by Navidson 

Rotten Tomatoes of TDKR is currently at 86%. Any guesses on where it will go towards the end of the week? I'm expecting a dash of backlash and ending at 82%.

Nah, it's rising.  People at IMDb are tracking every known IMDb reviewer, and the percentage is actually up to 89%.  RT just hasn't updated yet.

My pal texted me the sales for the Dark Knight trilogy has sold double the tickets the Marvel marathon did.

I added to my dismal failure in predicting Moonrise Kingdom's BO.  Theater was really full.

As was mine when I caught Moonrise Kingdom on Sunday.  I had a hard time finding a seat and I was by myself!

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Worst. Ice pop. Ever.

She's orally pleasuring the French flag. She's against everything Batman stands for.

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape 

 

Nah, it's rising.  People at IMDb are tracking every known IMDb reviewer, and the percentage is actually up to 89%.  RT just hasn't updated yet.

I'm predicting it'll end up lingering on a solid 90%, just 1% under TDK. Though, I've never seen so many 5 star reviews coming from a mainstream film like this.

Really? It's not even as well reviewed as the last Batman. I'd say the reactions are pointing towards 'good enough' rather than 'mindblowing instant classic', and the criticisms in the more negative reviews seem reasoned enough that I'd be surprised if there isn't another batch of rottens before the dust settles.

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Originally Posted by Paul C 

Really? It's not even as well reviewed as the last Batman. I'd say the reactions are pointing towards 'good enough' rather than 'mindblowing instant classic', and the criticisms in the more negative reviews seem reasoned enough that I'd be surprised if there isn't another batch of rottens before the dust settles.

Yeah, I'm reading the same.  It's getting positives, but no-where TDK level.

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape 

 

Nah, it's rising.  People at IMDb are tracking every known IMDb reviewer, and the percentage is actually up to 89%.  RT just hasn't updated yet.

There have got to be better ways to be a fan of a movie.

Like creating multiple accounts to vote up the score in the imdb top 250!

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson 

 

There have got to be better ways to be a fan of a movie.

I cut off my left ear and mailed it to Christian Bail!

I mean, I've done some over-the-top stuff, like seeing Fellowship of the Ring seven times and foolishly calling Attack of the Clones the best Star Wars movie ever flush with the rush of the midnight show.  But that was always related to the film itself, and my own enjoyment of it.  I didn't feel the need to desperately track movie reviews and rating percentages in order to receive some kind of mythical validation for liking them.

For the record, Attack of the Clones is holding strong at 67% positive.

Too soon, man.  Too soon.

Yeah I don't think anyone should be looked down upon for being genuinely enthusiastic and appreciative about a movie, but that's not what this kind of fanboy lunacy is about. Like most cases of groupthink and pack behaviour gone bad, the actual subject they're rallying around is kind of beside the point. Luckily with this stuff it's all just words on the internet.

To be fair, 87% (current) is better than just "good enough". Good enough is 74% The Amazing Spider-Man. Looks like it's going to be just where Inception is on that front.

Just to change tack and stir the pot a little: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is sitting at around $525million worldwide as of Monday, with only a potential far-future Chinese release left for overseas and three days' worth of figures to count before the Batman battering begins. Does anyone still think it's going to pass $800million worldwide?
 

I mean 'good enough' in the sense that it's the sequel to a movie that's massively popular and mostly acclaimed, and apparently doesn't drop the ball too drastically. I suspect when all is said and done this movie will always be overshadowed by its predecessor. I'm expecting a decent, serviceable end, but not a movie that's all that remarkable in itself. I'm not convinced it's as zeitgeisty as The Avengers proved to be, it'll be interesting to see how it fares after the inevitably massive opening.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson 

I mean, I've done some over-the-top stuff, like seeing Fellowship of the Ring seven times and foolishly calling Attack of the Clones the best Star Wars movie ever flush with the rush of the midnight show.  But that was always related to the film itself, and my own enjoyment of it.  I didn't feel the need to desperately track movie reviews and rating percentages in order to receive some kind of mythical validation for liking them.

But here's the thing -- who gives a shit? What business is it of yours who gets their validation and where? As long as Dark Shape isn't hate-bombing reviewers with death threats, I could give shit what sort of delusional validation he gets out of life. There are far, far shittier ways to delude oneself. This "fanbase" controversy is such a first world problem. And I feel like the people yelling the loudest from the mountaintops about how wrong it is are Star Wars fans because, lets face it, they are suffering the most from fan-validation deficit.

FUCK YOU STAR WARS IS DELICIOUS.

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FUCK YOU STAR WARS IS DELICIOUS.

For the record, I am now only responding to this thread with pictures of movie-themed food.

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Originally Posted by jhp1608 

If that tastes like Rachel Weisz I will buy my own factory...

Nerds who cry about other nerds needing validation are just nerds who need validation for not feeling validated.

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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie 

 

If that tastes like Rachel Weisz I will buy my own factory...

Sloppy seconds? Or dribbling seconds...

Another "hit" from the movie-food tie in 'verse

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But here's the thing -- who gives a shit? What business is it of yours who gets their validation and where? As long as Dark Shape isn't hate-bombing reviewers with death threats, I could give shit what sort of delusional validation he gets out of life. 

My comment wasn't directed at Dark Shape, as I didn't get the impression he was the one doing what he was talking about.

And I'm sorry, I do think this obsession with Tomatometer percentages is the worst kind of mania.  It boils everything about a film down to some imperfectly-derived raw number where nuance and clarification are thrown out the window in favor of an unreliable binary system of "fresh or rotten."  Especially when many of the aggregated reviews don't fall neatly into either camp.  It's the distillation of film criticism and appreciation into mathematical formula, and too many people are using it to declare their pet film the winner of some mythical contest.

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Even Yoda looks disgusted...

I don't really care one way or the other what the fanboys do because, for me personally, nothing Batman related will EVER beat the first Keaton Batman. Best Batmobile, best Joker (I liked Heath for the performance, but he was a little much for me overall), best Batman, best Alfred...and Billy Dee Williams.

In other news: that Dark Vador burger looks like the most disgusting thing ever.

Dark Vader finds Jive Ass Turkeys' lack of faith disturbing.

The Dark Lord of the Sith himself seems to have disowned it. It's not even named after him..."Dark Vador"? Who knew the French would stand apart.

"Choose your side of the Force". Ooh, which one shall I have: carcinogenic bread or the chunder chunks garnish?

Sorry, I'm contributing to a massive derail.

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Originally Posted by dw1977 

I don't really care one way or the other what the fanboys do because, for me personally, nothing Batman related will EVER beat the first Keaton Batman. Best Batmobile, best Joker (I liked Heath for the performance, but he was a little much for me overall), best Batman, best Alfred...and Billy Dee Williams.

I have to agree with part of this. The Burton Batmobile is the only car from the Bat films I'd actually want to be seen driving. The others would make you look like an attention seeking sugar addict or a Neo-Nazi.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

Nerds who cry about other nerds needing validation are just nerds who need validation for not feeling validated.

Caught and sigged.

Also agreed.  It is both the slickest and meanest Batmobile I have ever seen.  Yet somehow it has become popular to hate it.  It's either too impractical or it looks like a 12 year old designed it.  My inner twelve year old says fuck practically.  I have, and always will, love the Burton-mobile, with West's in a close second.

I'm one of those weirdos who always thought Batman's car shouldn't be this enormous piece of machinery that screams "HEY, BATMAN IS IN HERE!"  But that's just me.

Perhaps he should drive his Civic to the bat-signal instead? ;)

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Perhaps he should drive his Civic to the bat-signal instead? ;)

"This isn't a caaaaar... this isn't a car... (weeps)..."

The economic downturn eventually got to the 1%.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

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Take away 40 million or so and i agree, i'm saying 165-175 million opening for TDKR.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Just to change tack and stir the pot a little: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is sitting at around $525million worldwide as of Monday, with only a potential far-future Chinese release left for overseas and three days' worth of figures to count before the Batman battering begins. Does anyone still think it's going to pass $800million worldwide?
 

Yes i do, you have to first take into account that TASM will most likely take in 70-100 million more domestically over it's next 3 months in theaters, so that alone puts it over 600 million worldwide.  200 more million internationally over the next 4-5 months, yes. I say TASM will end up at 280-300 mil domestic and 800-850 mil worldwide when it's said and done, bank on that.

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To be fair, 87% (current) is better than just "good enough". Good enough is 74% The Amazing Spider-Man. Looks like it's going to be just where Inception is on that front.

I agree, since when is 87% on RT ever bad, that's great. I believe when all the reviews are in TDKR will end up somewhere between 85%-90%. Hell i think 74% is pretty damn good for TASM, especially considering all the hate that film was getting just for being a reboot.  The overall grades of this years 3 summer comic book films will be about on par with 2008's 3 summer CBF's, give or take a few points. However box office wise, 2012 is going to blow 2008 out the water.

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Originally Posted by orlando 

Yes i do, you have to first take into account that TASM will most likely take in 70-100 million more domestically over it's next 3 months in theaters, so that alone puts it over 600 million worldwide.  200 more million internationally over the next 4-5 months, yes. I say TASM will end up at 280-300 mil domestic and 800-850 mil worldwide when it's said and done, bank on that.

It'll do 800M WW.

Dark Knight 480 Dom.  

175 for me.  That's about how much the Avengers made minus 3D.  Women came out to see Avengers, while DKR has some imax bump and a higher theater count.  Additionally, every five or six DKR shows make up the run time of Avengers.  I think it's mostly a wash.

Plus DKR isn't coming off an actor's death for an opening weekend bump.