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post #13601 of 16671
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

Most likely is "Disturbed guy going where he knew there'd be a crowd and attention."

 

Exactly. This wasn't because it was The Dark Knight Rises, this was ANY midnight movie that was going to attract tons of people in one room all at once and big media attention.

post #13602 of 16671
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post

 

Exactly. This wasn't because it was The Dark Knight Rises, this was ANY midnight movie that was going to attract tons of people in one room all at once and big media attention.

100% agree.

It is going to have a small impact on the OW box office. Not much,but enough to probably put the Avengers OW record out of reach.

And, keeping up their record of stupidity in the last week,some TDKR fans are forming conspiracy theories that Disney/Marvel are  behind the shootings to defend the Avengers box office record.

Not a wack job fan but Disney corporation.

No debate now, the extreme TDKR fanboys have taken fan stupidity to a new level.

post #13603 of 16671

He's a fucking psycho who picked somewhere that he knew would have a lot of people.  Nothing more. 

 

Can't say I particularly care about how this will affect TDKR's opening.

post #13604 of 16671
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post

100% agree.

It is going to have a small impact on the OW box office. Not much,but enough to probably put the Avengers OW record out of reach.

And, keeping up their record of stupidity in the last week,some TDKR fans are forming conspiracy theories that Disney/Marvel are  behind the shootings to defend the Avengers box office record.

Not a wack job fan but Disney corporation.

No debate now, the extreme TDKR fanboys have taken fan stupidity to a new level.

NO WAY? Are they serious or just being ridiculous on purpose? That's even more ridiculous than Rush's whole Bane is Bain rant.

post #13605 of 16671

This really took the air out of this debate for me. What a horrible tragedy.

post #13606 of 16671

To attempt to get back on track...

 

$30.6m at midnight for TDKR, second best all time.

post #13607 of 16671

A Intellectual Wannabe tries to tie in the movie with the shootings:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120720/us-colorado-shooting-batman-questions/

 

God, if I had turned in something like that as a paper when I took my course in sociology, I would have gotten a "F".

post #13608 of 16671

So... how are things looking now for the 3-day?

post #13609 of 16671

Don't know.  It's a little less than I expected but only slightly.  I'd say 180 is the floor.  Wouldn't be shocked by anything higher.

post #13610 of 16671

Single day is looking to be a solid high 80s/low 90s.

post #13611 of 16671

Edited for stupidity. 

post #13612 of 16671
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

Single day is looking to be a solid high 80s/low 90s.

 

Nice.  If it hits 90 then 200 over the weekend is in play.  It's not hitting Avengers at this point, but the first person who says "only" making 180-190m is a disappointment gets a nice punch to the face.

 

Regardless, it'll end up being the #2 opening weekend of all time and the biggest 2D opening.

post #13613 of 16671

Curious how word of mouth/CinemaScore will fare? Everyone walking outta my midnight screening was raving (I thought it was very good, but not great - not complaining, mind you!)

post #13614 of 16671

I've been checking Twitter and haven't seen a single negative reaction.  That's sort of stunning.

post #13615 of 16671

Weekdays will fare better for Bats compared to Avengers. At point, it becomes how close will it get to The Dark Knight's $535M. Still say it does $500M.

post #13616 of 16671

Does anyone think that the tragedy will more likely affect the long term box office rather than opening weekend (as much)?  I mean let's say your average moviegoer who would've seen the movie 4 times in the theater (the type of behavior that puts these films close to the billion mark) only sees it once or twice, not wanting to take a chance, knowing the film will be on dvd/blu in a matter of months anyway...where they can see it as much as they want in the relative safety of their home.

post #13617 of 16671

An unabridged timeline of Batman reactions from my facebook feed, reprinted without permission or attribution:

 

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While I'll save my full review of Dark Night Rises for a few days so not be spoiling anything, let me just say: While I did find many parts of the movie to be great, i.e. perfect catwoman and the ending was cool, it feel into every trap I didn't want it to. Overall, I was disappointed... :( Let fury begin.

 

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man. i should've seen Madea...

 

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BATMAN RISES: Tight scripting, beautifully understated performances by almost every lead (Bale's usual over intensity reined way back and delectably internal), and some truly gorgeous chemistry between Bats and Cat. Oh, and of course, the TOYS. Touch of cohesion loss 2/3rds in, and a bit of Hollywood schmaltz near the end, but otherwise MASTERFUL.

 

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I made a decision earlier today not to post a negative review if I did not like the Dark Knight movie.....Can't wait for work tomorrow!

 

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What an awful last 20 min to such a great telling of Batman.

 

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Batman=good.

 

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So while there is an enormous tragedy surrounding it, the Dark Knight Rises is really an amazing film.

 

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Wow, TDKR lived up to the hype... amazing flick, loved it!

 

Some raves, some pans. My 700 person sample size might not be as large as twitter, but I can't imagine there are no pans on Twitter.

post #13618 of 16671
Search for yourself -- just try both The Dark Knight Rises and #tdkr.
post #13619 of 16671
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post

Search for yourself -- just try both The Dark Knight Rises and #tdkr.

 

This was the first tweet I found that was not explicitly about the massacre after searching for The Dark Knight Rises.

 

https://twitter.com/Eugene_Simon/status/226445571328704514

 

I am sure it's an excellent film. I can't wait to see it (likely Monday or Tuesday). But declaring universal twitter acclaim is perhaps a road too far.

 

ETA: https://twitter.com/WhoJedi/status/226429323291291648

post #13620 of 16671
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Originally Posted by MikeI View Post

 

This was the first tweet I found that was not explicitly about the massacre after searching for The Dark Knight Rises.

 

https://twitter.com/Eugene_Simon/status/226445571328704514

 

I am sure it's an excellent film. I can't wait to see it (likely Monday or Tuesday). But declaring universal twitter acclaim is perhaps a road too far.

 

ETA: https://twitter.com/WhoJedi/status/226429323291291648


I'm not declaring anything.  I said that's what I observed when following audience reaction.

 

Here' are the immediate tweets when I just searched:

 

@jakemonteiro7

Holly crap the dark knight rises is unreal

 

@Metro_Virus

For me Dark Knight > Dark Knight Rises, but it's still a hell of a film. Really surprised how well Bane and Catwoman fit with the world.

 

@merzatweets

The Dark Knight Rises is amazing. Omg.

 

@joeconneran

Dark Knight Rises is a damn good movie

 

@LaurenDunn17

Dark knight rises was the best movie ever holllllllly crap

 

@SkinnyDope

I wanna see Dark knight rises again!!

 

@NakedNicolo

I was irritated by the dark knight rises. They couldve done so much better with the story and characters.

 

@MrZFemz

The dark knight rises was epic, I can't find any other word to describe it !!

 

These were posted within the last two minutes.

post #13621 of 16671

Looking like low $80s now for the opening day. Still great.

post #13622 of 16671
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

Looking like low $80s now for the opening day. Still great.

 

That's almost as much as Mirror Mirror's production budget.

post #13623 of 16671

Where'd you read that?  Can't find anything with ERC, Hollywood Reporter, or Nikke Finke.

 

EDIT:

 

Ah, Gitesh Pandya.

post #13624 of 16671

My bad.

 

Numbers are going to go back and forth all night. My guess is it settles on $82M. Whole thing is strange for WB. Their top dog release for the year is out, getting great reviews, great audience feedback, great business but then this terrible situation happens and it puts a damper on the whole thing.

post #13625 of 16671

I find their decision to not announce returns... odd. It ties the movie further to the tragedy and in no way makes up for this ridiculously poorly thought out quote

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“What happened in Colorado is a tragedy, make no mistake about it. But East Coast numbers are coming in like nothing ever happened. We grossed half a million dollars by 10 AM just in Manhattan.”
post #13626 of 16671
"Like nothing ever happened"

What a fuckwitt.
post #13627 of 16671
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Originally Posted by Three Different People View Post
 

Most likely is "Disturbed guy going where he knew there'd be a crowd and attention."

 

Exactly. This wasn't because it was The Dark Knight Rises, this was ANY midnight movie that was going to attract tons of people in one room all at once and big media attention.

 

He's a fucking psycho who picked somewhere that he knew would have a lot of people. Nothing more.

 

 

 

You were wrong. I think there might even have been information out at the time you all posted that proved you wrong. But you fell all over yourselves to make those erroneous statements because your instinctual response to a significant human tragedy was to protect a superhero movie franchise. An opportunity to pause and reflect, here.

post #13628 of 16671

Nobody is "wrong". What do we know? Calling himself the Joker and dying his hair red (Joker is green), completely clad in kevlar with a gas mask says what it said before; midnight movie that was going to attract tons of people in one room all at once and big media attention. 

 

Opportunity to pause and reflect is right. 12 people are dead. This isn't about who's right or wrong in a box office thread.


Edited by User_32 - 7/21/12 at 4:42am
post #13629 of 16671
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Originally Posted by PWT3 View Post

You were wrong. I think there might even have been information out at the time you all posted that proved you wrong. But you fell all over yourselves to make those erroneous statements because your instinctual response to a significant human tragedy was to protect a superhero movie franchise. An opportunity to pause and reflect, here.

 

You're looking for rational explanations of an irrational act. This is not how schizophrenia works. If David Berkowitz's neighbor didn't have a dog, he still would have killed those people.

post #13630 of 16671
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Originally Posted by PWT3 View Post

But you fell all over yourselves to make those erroneous statements because your instinctual response to a significant human tragedy was to protect a superhero movie franchise.

 

Huh?  I don't even LIKE this franchise.  I'm not tryng to protect Batman, I'm trying to protect against irrational rushes to judgment based on nothing but hysteria and conjecture.

 

Besides, if Batman and the Joker never existed, this clown would have still done what he did.  The focus needs to be on the man and his actions, not what he dressed up as to do them.

post #13631 of 16671

120M WW so far.....

post #13632 of 16671

Hey guys, he's a troll. But which troll?

post #13633 of 16671

All this talk about his hair colour being wrong is getting surreally close to criticizing a copycat killer for not being faithful enough to his source material.

post #13634 of 16671

170M for the weeekend.

 

Avengers fans can relax.

post #13635 of 16671

My first thoughts are for the victims, and then the guns that allowed this to happen, but I also find myself seriously pissed off that this hateful psychopath has made himself the story and robbed Dark Knight Rises of it's moment of triumph. Nolan, the crew and cast worked on this movie for years. It was a labor of love, and a rare chance for a trilogy to end on a definitive note. I predicted a 200+ million dollar opening months ago, and in recent weeks all indications were that this film was set to blow past opening weekend records. Now the film is irrevocably linked with gut wrenching bloodshed, and he's stolen the joy and enthusiasm millions felt for this movie. It's just despicable. He couldn't make anything of himself in his life, so he decided to hijack a pop culture phenomenon for his own sick purposes. 

post #13636 of 16671
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

Hey guys, he's a troll. But which troll?

 

It's so hard to tell - everybody seems to be going crazy around here lately.
post #13637 of 16671
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Originally Posted by cccc View Post

170M for the weeekend.

 

Avengers fans can relax.

 

Actually they shouldn't relax.  Because if they were honestly nervous about which movie would temporarily hold the box office record for gross in a weekend, they're gigantic losers.  And they probably need some exercise.

post #13638 of 16671
As is usually the case, there was a lot more "Avengers fans are going to go nuts" than actual Avengers fans going nuts.
post #13639 of 16671
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

 

Actually they shouldn't relax.  Because if they were honestly nervous about which movie would temporarily hold the box office record for gross in a weekend, they're gigantic losers.  And they probably need some exercise.

Fuck you I eat what I want.

post #13640 of 16671
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post

 

Nice.  If it hits 90 then 200 over the weekend is in play.  It's not hitting Avengers at this point, but the first person who says "only" making 180-190m is a disappointment gets a nice punch to the face.

 

Regardless, it'll end up being the #2 opening weekend of all time and the biggest 2D opening.

Really, 180-190 million dissapointing, are you freakin' kidding me.  Those numbers are just insane man, now had TDKR opened to 130-140m or something than you can say dissapointing. Coming into this year i definantly would'nt have envisioned "The Avengers" & TDKR posting these kind of numbers, huge but not like this.

post #13641 of 16671
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

Curious how word of mouth/CinemaScore will fare? Everyone walking outta my midnight screening was raving (I thought it was very good, but not great - not complaining, mind you!)

What's crazy about that is "The Avengers" got an A+, TASM A- & TDKR an A from Cinemascore, 3 comic book films in one year scoring that high, never seen nothing like it before.  It just goes to show you that all three films are crowd pleasers to the audience which i happen to agree with. This is what happens when you have good directors with a vision and strong casts, other aspiring comic book films need to take note.

post #13642 of 16671
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

Weekdays will fare better for Bats compared to Avengers. At point, it becomes how close will it get to The Dark Knight's $535M. Still say it does $500M.

I was thinking more like 450M, but 500M is not out the realm of possibility.

post #13643 of 16671
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

Does anyone think that the tragedy will more likely affect the long term box office rather than opening weekend (as much)?  I mean let's say your average moviegoer who would've seen the movie 4 times in the theater (the type of behavior that puts these films close to the billion mark) only sees it once or twice, not wanting to take a chance, knowing the film will be on dvd/blu in a matter of months anyway...where they can see it as much as they want in the relative safety of their home.

No, i don't think it will effect it's overall box office at all.

post #13644 of 16671
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Originally Posted by cccc View Post

170M for the weeekend.

 

Avengers fans can relax.

Coming into this weekend i was thinking 165-170M , but now after friday's numbers i'll say 180-185M.

post #13645 of 16671

It's clear the Aurora shooting had an impact on yesterday.  I'm curious to see if today will actually increase from Friday (minus midnights).

post #13646 of 16671
How is that clear? Shows were sold out all over the place. And it scored crazy Friday numbers!
post #13647 of 16671

Because night sales were down.  Because it made less after midnight than The Dark Knight did.

post #13648 of 16671

I imagine that the ticket sales and attendance were down in Denver. Imagine if there was one or two other incidents on the same night in different cities. Hope no one gets any sick ideas from this. 

post #13649 of 16671

The numbers are going to be weird on this; anecdotal, but last night, the IMAX theater I attended was only 3/4 full at showtime and it had sold out three weeks ago. The theater had a sign up offering refunds for people who were too scared to attend the show. The shooting has absolutely had an effect, and to what extent, we may not know for a while. 

post #13650 of 16671

Everything is always anecdotal. But...this movie is NOT AS GOOD as The Dark Knight (fact), so wouldn't you expect a bit of a drop-off after midnight showings compared to TDK, no matter what? I know I was (based on the anecdotal evidence of theaters in my area and reviews of the film) long before this tragedy occurred. 

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