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post #15501 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

We're there. Tintin.

 

Which actually sort of disappointed overseas.  That thing was supposed to make way more than $300m outside the U.S.

post #15502 of 23412

Not holding my breath on that sequel.

post #15503 of 23412
Blah, double post
post #15504 of 23412
True enough, but I'm sure overseas was the logic on that film.

If there's another Pirates, same deal.
post #15505 of 23412

I bet once Peter Jackson finishes his Hobbit trilogy filming, Tintin 2 will be officially announced. He said it's shooting this year (after Hobbit) for a tentative release in 2015.

post #15506 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Paul C View Post

Box Office Mojo points out that Life Of Pi is raking it in overseas, and may finish up somewhere in the region of $500m worldwide.

 

I wonder if that's some small sign of where things are going. Everyone's been talking about how important overseas money has become in recent years, but this is a pretty striking example of Hollywood putting out a big budget movie that you could argue has more inherent appeal outside the US than within.

 

They didn't book Irrfan Khan for nothing. I bet you his casting in Amazing Spider-Man was strategic as well.


Edited by Hammerhead - 1/11/13 at 8:44pm
post #15507 of 23412
Skyfall is only $700,000 away from hitting $300m domestically.
post #15508 of 23412
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post

Skyfall is only $700,000 away from hitting $300m domestically.

 

post #15509 of 23412
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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey dropped 48 percent to an estimated $9.1 million this weekend. The first of three Lord of the Rings prequels has now earned $278.1 million, and it's on pace to end its run with between $295 and $300 million.
post #15510 of 23412
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post

Skyfall is only $700,000 away from hitting $300m domestically.

 

Apparently 45% of the movie's ticket sales can be attributed to this one guy:

 

 

Nobody knows who he is but when a journalist tried to catch up with him in New York, he climbed up a building and used parkour to escape.

post #15511 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post


The Hobbit should make $7-8m over MLK. Can't see it making <$14m after.
post #15512 of 23412

JACK REACHER "unlikely" to get sequel.

 

Solid numbers. But they need $250 Million worldwide for a sequel to be considered.

post #15513 of 23412
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post


The Hobbit should make $7-8m over MLK. Can't see it making <$14m after.

There are four movies opening in over 2,500 screens this weekend. After bleeding screens come Friday you expect it to have a less than 20% drop on a minor holiday? OK.

 

One thing's for sure: it's not catching Two Towers, or Fellowship.

post #15514 of 23412
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Originally Posted by felix View Post

JACK REACHER "unlikely" to get sequel.

 

Solid numbers. But they need $250 Million worldwide for a sequel to be considered.

 

Well the Asians, they love the Cruise.

post #15515 of 23412

It's nice to see that Life of Pi is doing really well overseas. 350 mil and counting.

post #15516 of 23412
The Asians love Cruise, but enough to squeeze out another 100 mil from Jack Reacher? I hope so but I don't see it passing 200. Which should warrant a sequel since that would be breaking its budget 3 times and than some.
post #15517 of 23412
I don't understand why Hollywood would only accept giant profits. Are slim profits not still profits? Who would turn down money in the bank?
post #15518 of 23412

Sequels happen for pretty much one reason: when a film connects with its audience in an unexpected way and/or to an unexpected degree. In a business where "nobody knows anything," exploiting a property with a unique, proven appeal is a safer bet than most-- even though sequels historically deliver diminishing returns.

post #15519 of 23412
I'm fine with there not being another Jack Reacher simply because I'm sick of every article about the film having a reach-around (huh-huh) pun in it. We get it. Thank you. I can go my whole life without seeing this headline: "Tom Cruise to Get Another Reacher Round!"
post #15520 of 23412
Why so much interest in a Jack Reacher sequel? Is there anything intrinsically Reacher-ish to its flavor? Anything that couldn't reasonably be captured in whatever cop/spy movie Cruise appears in come 2014?

Seriously, the title of that movie might as well have been Tom Cruise.
post #15521 of 23412

Most people are lucky to have even one franchise Mr. Cruise. Be thankful you have Mission Impossible and call it a day.

post #15522 of 23412
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post

Most people are lucky to have even one franchise Mr. Cruise. Be thankful you have Mission Impossible and call it a day.

Could it be that studios no longer want to let him make movies like Reacher unless there is franchise potential?
post #15523 of 23412
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

If Tarantino stops being a sure thing (Something Kevin Smith has never been) and/or they start screwing him over, then yes he will leave. And find no problem getting other backers. As for Rodriquez, he left their company after Grindhouse for a couple of years. Like I said, he got the blame for that failure. That's why you saw him set up at Fox for awhile.

 

Actually, Rodriguez has yet to leave the Weinsteins behind completely.  He's already made Spy Kids 4 with them, Sin City 2 is shooting right now, and Spy Kids 5 is likely to be made sometime next year.  All are TWC projects.  As for Fox, he only came on board to produce Predators for them.  As a courtesy, they distributed Machete for him.  Barring another Predator flick being made with him producing, that is the extent of his relationship with them.  Shorts was a WB joint.  Open Road is releasing Machete Kills and RR doesn't seem too picky about who distributes his films now that he is making them via his own studio.  He'll go wherever he is welcome.

 

Also, I'm pretty sure at least two of his upcoming projects are set up for distribution with TWC company (Nervewrackers and Fire & Ice).  He has not abandoned Bob and Harvey, but obviously he doesn't feel a sense of duty anywhere near as strong as Quentin seems to.

 

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Originally Posted by Paul C View Post

Why would Rodriguez get the blame for Grindhouse? The impression I got was that his entry was generally better received.

 

The Weinsteins were blamed for Grindhouse.  I've never seen anyone point the finger at Rodriguez or Tarantino for it.

 

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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post


Could it be that studios no longer want to let him make movies like Reacher unless there is franchise potential?

 

Doubtful.  He has at least half a dozen non-franchise projects (El Presidente, Nathan Decker, ATMOM, Our Name Is Adam, etc.) laying at his feet awaiting his signature, one of which is a big remake (Magnificent Seven).  He also has that Abraham Van Helsing project over at Universal that could be another franchise waiting to happen.

post #15524 of 23412

So The Last Stand is getting slaughtered apparently. Did anyone expect this to happen? I mean, I know audiances love horror movies regardless of how shitty they are (not saying Mama is shitty btw), but I was just expecting a 20 mill + opening for Schwarzennegar's first film back.

post #15525 of 23412

Friday #s are in. Mama makes 10 M! Guess January is the new horror hot spot. Broken City makes 3 M. And The Land Stand only gets 2 M. Poor Arnold. I assume this must be his worst opening (or close to it) in his career. Wonder if Stallone's Bullet to the Head will open bigger or even worse.

post #15526 of 23412
The poster prominently features Johnny Knoxville, who couldn't sell a buffet line to an Ethiopian, much less open a movie that ain't Jackass.
post #15527 of 23412

So Jessica Chastain is headlining (okay, maybe that's too strong... starring in, at least) the top two films at the box office this weekend, and is a best actress favorite?  I wonder what this is doing to her quote?

post #15528 of 23412

If Chastain takes home the Oscar, I'd say she's officially arrived on the A-list. It's kind of amazing how quickly her career went from zero to ubiquitous--thirteen movies in two years has to be some kind of record.

post #15529 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post

If Chastain takes home the Oscar, I'd say she's officially arrived on the A-list. It's kind of amazing how quickly her career went from zero to ubiquitous--thirteen movies in two years has to be some kind of record.

Eeeeeeeeh, let's slow our collective roll, okay? The movies that she appear in do well not specifically because of her. She didn't open Let's Kill Bin Laden. Bin Laden getting killed opened that movie. She didn't open The Help. She's great, don't get me wrong, but I doubt that most people on the street could tell you her name if you showed them her picture.
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Originally Posted by UrchineSLICE View Post

, but I was just expecting a 20 mill + opening for Schwarzennegar's first film back.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha really?! Based on what?
post #15530 of 23412
I expected 12 to 15 million.
post #15531 of 23412

I thought that his recent bad press might have had something to do with the low opening but I don't think people really care. I just think his brawny leading action man persona is not what people identify with anymore in their action films (like they did in the 80s/early 90s). Our action heroes of today are back to the 70s like Steve McQueen and Clint Eastwood where size doesn't matter so much but great acting does ala Matt Damon/Daniel Craig type.

post #15532 of 23412

Double Post.

post #15533 of 23412
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post


Eeeeeeeeh, let's slow our collective roll, okay? The movies that she appear in do well not specifically because of her. She didn't open Let's Kill Bin Laden. Bin Laden getting killed opened that movie. She didn't open The Help. She's great, don't get me wrong, but I doubt that most people on the street could tell you her name if you showed them her picture.
 

 

She didn't open those movies, no, but she's now got some serious exposure that will make her desirable. Jennifer Lawrence didn't open Hunger Games either, but that movie made her a star.

 

I think Ahnuld could still have a big hit in him, but it would have to be SF or fantasy. During his 80s heyday, action movies could just be ludicrously cartoonish no matter the setting, so Arnold fit right in. These days (and even in the fading days of his pre-political career) action movies are more grounded, or at least, their cartoonishness isn't the kind that jibes with Arnie. The days where he could play a regular Joe--which was always kind of ludicrous--are past, which is ironic since he's now old enough to be a little more sympathetic. From now on he has to be an unstoppable killing machine or some other fantastical piece of architecture for audiences to buy it.

post #15534 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post

If Chastain takes home the Oscar, I'd say she's officially arrived on the A-list. It's kind of amazing how quickly her career went from zero to ubiquitous--thirteen movies in two years has to be some kind of record.

 

She's referenced it in the past, as well as in her Globe speech, how long she's worked to get where she's at.  In terms of talent, she's no late-bloomer.  Given Hollywood's obsession with youth, I wonder what took them so long?  I mean, once the notoriety hit, she even was trying to fudge her real age for awhile there.

post #15535 of 23412

I remember when Kevin Spacey "broke out" in 1995 with Seven and The Usual Suspects, the media were proclaiming him an overnight success when he corrected them in saying it was actually a 10 year overnight success.

post #15536 of 23412

My comment on the A-list wasn't to say she was a proven, bona-fide hit magnet, it was to say that she's gone from a couple of one-shot TV show appearances to full fledged leading lady in two years, and unlike the Jude Law explosion of 2005 seems to be attaching herself to all-around critical hits, with some box office pluses to boot. Doesn't meant she's going to be opening films based on her name alone, but no one but Will Smith and Tom Cruise does that anymore anyway. A-list is more about visibility and general goodwill than it is about box office.

post #15537 of 23412

So America chose an interesting-looking original horror movie over an attempt to make a shitty, washed-up action star bankable again? I must have died and gone to heaven. 

post #15538 of 23412

Haha yeah, fuck Arnold.
 

post #15539 of 23412

As old as it might make some of us feel (me included), you have a whole generation of movie going teen agers that haven't ever seen an Arnold movie theatrically. To them he's just the "old guy that made the Terminator movies back in the 90's". 

post #15540 of 23412

I hope this puts Arnold's career back in the cooler. I hope this is the chilling sound of his doom. My heart is cold to his pleas of mercy.

 

post #15541 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post

I hope this puts Arnold's career back in the cooler. I hope this is the chilling sound of his doom. My heart is cold to his pleas of mercy.



Is that chair one of those plastic blow-up deals, or is that meant to be a block of ice? I am fascinated by that chair.
post #15542 of 23412

It's ice, but like my grandmother's couch, it has the protective plastic cover.  Mrs. Freeze was very frugal.

post #15543 of 23412

In the context of the film, I do believe that it is meant to be made of ice. As for what it really was, only Joel Schumacher knows. 

post #15544 of 23412
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
Is that chair one of those plastic blow-up deals, or is that meant to be a block of ice?


Yes.

post #15545 of 23412
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post

There are four movies opening in over 2,500 screens this weekend. After bleeding screens come Friday you expect it to have a less than 20% drop on a minor holiday?

Hey, whaddya know -- $1.45m Friday = $6m-ish 3-day = $7.2m MLK 4-day total = 21% drop.

If I toss out specific numbers for how a film will perform over a frame, I'm not just bullshitting. There's precedent.
post #15546 of 23412

What disappointments me is that not only is this a poor showing for Arnold's return, but it's a GOOD movie at that.  I feel worse for Kim Jee-woon than Schwarzenegger though.  It will hurt his career in Hollywood more than the Austrian Oak's.

 

Anyway, Arnold's gonna be fine for awhile, folks....

 

THE TOMB (2013) (completed, hits theaters in September)

TEN (2014) (post-production, hits theaters next January)

UNKNOWN SOLDIER (2014) (pre-production, shoots this spring)

THE LEGEND OF CONAN (2014?) (scripting, likely shoots in the fall)

TRIPLETS (2015?) (scripting)

TERMINATOR 5 (2015?) (scripting)

post #15547 of 23412
I wouldn't be surprised if The Last Stand kills Conan.
post #15548 of 23412

Doubtful.  If one of his Universal projects dies, it'll be Triplets.

post #15549 of 23412
That's what I'm concerned about. One last Old Man Conan movie is Arnold's final great labor. It might not be too expensive.
post #15550 of 23412

I'm glad to see Gangster Squad and Broken City doing so poorly though.  It's nice to see star-studded pap fail every once in awhile.

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