So the Chinese have decided that Suicide Squad is not going to be released in their country due to the "negative values" portrayed in the movie.
With that, this is officially going to lose Warner Brothers a lot of money. Before marketing costs, the budget for this movie was only $75 million less than BvS.
Word is it needs to make at least $800 worldwide in order to break even. Which is a real tall task at this point.
With BvS barely making WB a profit off the investment, and Suicide Squad likely squandering that, what position does it put WB in now if these movies are no longer making money for them?
I'm going to bet Aquaman isn't getting a stand alone movie anymore.
Wait. There's a movie where Kevin Spacey is a cat? That sounds fantastic!
I'm going to try not to watch the trailer so I can resist the crushing disappointment of reality and keep my excitement levels high!
A similar reaction when I found out Gary Oldman was in a movie playing a dwarf.
Be very careful about what you get excited about.
Cheer up everyone. This is coming next Tuesday!
So that was a teaser trailer for the teaser trailer?
This might be the first one of these I don't see. One stuntman got killed and one of Charlize Theron's stunt doubles (quite possibly her primary one) from Mad Max: Fury Road got horribly injured during the making of this film. She lost an arm. I really just don't want to see it right now after hearing about all this. Maybe quite possibly never. Almost none of the characters who should be back for this are mentioned as returning either, so what's the point?
In all honesty, I never made that connection until I just read what you wrote there.
Terrible business all round, really.
Absolutely not a criticism of anyone in this thread nor is one intended but I at least would like to at this point draw a line under the whole thing at this point outside the discussion of the actual facts of the situation from now on. It's just bleak enough as it is.
I kind of hope it does. I feel a weird sense of loyalty toward Will Smith - especially after seeing this movie where he's the MVP (in my opinion) - and would like this movie to be somewhat successful, just so he's got the necessary clout to make (and star in) other big movies.
His son can fuck off, though.
Smith is smart enough to know what kind of franchise to jump into as well thus why he turned down the sequel to Independence Day and joined up with this instead. After Earth I think really made him re-evaluate that.
Oh my... what does WB do now? Since they panicked when BvS had problems, they meddled and interfered with Ayer's shoot and post production. What do they do with WW? Leave it be because the reviews generally point at the editing as a major problem (the main thing they played with)... or double down, because it seems to have worked in ticket sales?
It's a bit early to make that prognostication. Most likely the same people that went to see BvS on the opening weekend are the same people that are seeing this, this weekend. This movie actually has worse reviews than BvS and a Cinemascore of B+. You know what else got a B+ rating this weekend? Nine Lives.
A more accurate projection of where this is heading will play out through the week with the weekday grosses and the second weekend grosses.
Right now I would put Suicide Squad's domestic total around $305 million and worldwide around $625 million.
This is getting a lot more women and under 25 crowd though. Will Smith and Margot Robbie helped with that. A more diverse cast helped the Transformers films and their terrible reviews too.
I filled one out for Black Mass. There's a guy hanging out by the door to the theater screen with a clipboard full of questionnaire cards and he asks you if you'd like to share your thoughts of the movie.
If you say yes he hands you a (weird looking) card that has a lot of tear-away tabs on it with questions.
After you've seen the movie, you're supposed to tear off the tabs according to how you felt about it.
The questions are like "What made you come and see this movie today?" and the answers will range from "The story", "The actor in the lead role", "The director" etc.
Another one was "How likely are you to purchase this movie on Blu-Ray?" and another one was "How likely are you to watch this on VOD again?".
Also you gave the movie an overall letter grade (and I think they asked for the letter grade for the main actor and supporting actors and direction/story).
I think there's a chance we could see another Bourne film if they cut the budget. The Bourne Identity cost $60 million and even factoring in inflation and other things that cost a lot more now in film production that moved ahead of inflation, that's still cheaper. Back-end Matt Damon's fee more too to help with that if necessary.
Also, for the love of God, write a much better script instead of recycling all of it from past elements of the previous three (but so much worse this time) and don't undermine the past films either (like what this did to the whole point of Ultimatum).
That $135 million opening for Suicide Squad looks sexy, but it dropped 40% on Saturday and 20% on Sunday. BvS dropped 37% and 33%. Meanwhile, Deadpool and Civil War had Saturday drops in the teens. It seems like DC has a loyal following that turns out in force on Thursday and Friday, but then the word of mouth tanks the rest of the weekend.
I think the strong marketing is what's responsible for that Thursday Friday number. It's all the movie geeks who HAVE to see it.
No matter what, WB execs will continue to have no fucking clue. I think I've officially given up hope on them despite technically liking the movie. They fucked up the Joker Harley thing, and that's three DC movies in a row of not getting basic things about DC characters.