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post #32651 of 34610
Certainly not a feather in Wheatley's cap though.
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It's one of those movies that will probably get a second life in student dorms. 

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It's one of those movies that will probably get a second life in student dorms. 

 

I was thinking the same thing, it's made for home video (or whatever umbrella term we're using these days since VHS tapes ceased production ...).

post #32654 of 34610
The Promise failed for 3 main reasons IMO:

1. It's called The Promise. That is an awful title. Every Christian radio station in every goddamned city from here to Nome Alaska is called The Promise. No one wants to think of Christian ANYTHING at the movies.

2. It takes place in the desert (looks at Bradito, smirks). These movies are hard sells if they aren't action, and you're not gonna be a prestige pic unless you're The English Patient.

3. The lead actor is a guy named CHRISTIAN (see number 1)

I think these three things COULD'VE had something to do with it.
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Isn't it obvious that The Promise was barely marketed dump no one gave a shit about?
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There's that.

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I bet they had ads on christian radio...
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The only marketing I saw for The Promise was on the side of a bus whilst I was searching for somewhere to eat lunch. Needless to say, the thought "The Promise? What's that?" was quickly replaced by "Hello Cantina Del Ponte's fresh pasta counter!" and I never thought about the movie again. I've thought about that Tuscan Sausage and Pappardelle, though. Very delicious!

post #32659 of 34610
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This doing $800M+ is a win but I'm curious how the narrative will go when (in all likelihood) it doesn't crack $1B.

 

Per Deadline, ‘Fate Of The Furious’ Drives Past $1B At Worldwide Box Office; Tops ‘Furious 7’ For New China Record.

post #32660 of 34610

well well well

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well well

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I have to imagine Ja Rule weeps having lost out that Tyrese role way back.
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I saw lots of TV spots for The Promise, actually. As someone above said, it looked mediocre (AV Club said it's one of Bale's best performances in a while, though). I'm guessing not many Americans are interested in the Armenian genocide.

post #32664 of 34610

the utter absence of marketing in theaters probably didn't help...

 

...but even with that?  Yeah, I would guess that audiences wouldn't have been interested anyway.

 

 

I don't ever watch TV on TV, so I have no idea about how many TV spots movies get.

post #32665 of 34610

We got a ton of mini posters for The Promise at the theater I work at to hand out to people seeing it. Not one person has taken one out of the maybe 30 people who saw it since it opened. 

post #32666 of 34610
I just skimmed the last two pages but from what I quickly gathered The Promise just made 1 billion worldwide?
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Baahubali 2: The Conclusion had the best per screen average for the weekend with $23,855 per screen.  This only played at 425 locations.  Compare this to The Promise which scored $627 average at 2,251 locations.  Pretty neat.

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

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whoa!
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Looking like GUARDIANS VOL. 2 is going to easily clear $300 million this weekend.
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"A" Cinemascore and looks like it'll be $138 million domestic for the weekend.
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So a big old swinging dick HIT.
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So it made more than one dollar?
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So it made more than one dollar?

If it owes any net profits to Gunn or the cast, then no, not according to Marvel's accountants!

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Whew!
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Crikey. This video suggests Wonder Woman has the potential to kill Chris Pine's career. That would be a shame, as I like him a lot.

 

 

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Crikey. This video suggests Wonder Woman has the potential to kill Chris Pine's career. That would be a shame, as I like him a lot.

 

 

 

Explain!

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Just like how Ryan Reynolds can't get any work after X-MEN ORIGINS, GREEN LANTERN, THE CHANGE-UP, TURBO, RIPD, and more.

This might hurt Gadot quite a bit, though.
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Explain!

 

Basically her point is that he's Box Office poison, who has literally "brought nothing to the table" if the movie opens at a number like £65m. His non-Trek numbers are apparently awful and I guess it's suggested that even Trek's numbers have only been what they have due to the Trek name and other factors such as JJ Abrams ect. 

 

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This might hurt Gadot quite a bit, though.

 

Yup. A $65m will kill her potential non-DCU career dead.

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There's still F&F though.

 

CYBORG Giselle!

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Imagine me tapping you on your nose and saying "No, Felix! NO!" as though you were a bad puppy.

post #32681 of 34610
A $65m will ensure Cyborg Giselle is recast for one of the Emmas (Watson, Stone, Roberts).
post #32682 of 34610
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Basically her point is that he's Box Office poison, who has literally "brought nothing to the table" if the movie opens at a number like £65m. His non-Trek numbers are apparently awful and I guess it's suggested that even Trek's numbers have only been what they have due to the Trek name and other factors such as JJ Abrams ect. 

 

 

Yup. A $65m will kill her potential non-DCU career dead.

 

I notice there's yet to be a mention of Patty Jenkins and what this will do to her career.

post #32683 of 34610

That's also mentioned in the video. Go watch it, you.

post #32684 of 34610
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

That's also mentioned in the video. Go watch it, you.

 

I think it was already implied that I wanted you to tell me so I didn't have to, you.

 

Don't disappoint us as much as the time we were lead to believe and then found out you weren't that black guy cosplaying as a Vulcan in short order because he looked cool.

post #32685 of 34610
Pine is a hunky white man, he'll keep getting roles.
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Pine was surprisingly good in Hell or High Water. He should gravitate more to those kind of roles (ie. stuff that actually requires acting).

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Pine is a hunky white man, he'll keep getting roles.

 

Interesting how what happened in this film actually kind of played out in real life, also more or less in the same year it was released. Well, except for the luck switching back again at any point yet.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_My_Luck_(2006_film)

 

The poster does him no favours, though.

post #32688 of 34610
Chris Pine had his best work in Unstoppable and Hell or High Water. The first one more or less ran off of it's concept, and the charisma of Denzel.

High or High Water had him playing off Foster, who is almost always great, and Bridges, in Oscar mode, in a very relatable story to a lot of middle America, more than competantly written and executed.

Wonder Woman is the 5th(?) comic book movie, in a studio's (somewhat fledling) combined universe of a WWI set, female superhero, directed by a near unknown, lead by a facially comatose title character with the hope of a franchise on it's shoulders.

I could see how a few people might think it could do some harm.
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An odd place we're in where a $65m opening weekend is considered disastrous.

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Eh...Batman Begins was apparently tracking relatively low according to a few articles I've read, although coming off a franchise killing disaster with an almost universally popular character is different to coming off a franchise almost-killing disaster with less popular character. Still, what matters is how good the film is. If it works, has enough fist pumping and engaging moments, and there isn't any individual element which stinks enough to wreck it, then it may well over perform. 

post #32691 of 34610
Tracking for this is worthless. If it's good it'll have good WOM and be successful. It's that simple. It can't rely on the opening weekend and call it a night, like some SH films. We shall see....
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Eh...Batman Begins was apparently tracking relatively low according to a few articles I've read

 

Batman Begins didn't do amazingly well, though.

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An odd place we're in where a $65m opening weekend is considered disastrous.

 

That's DC/WB for you. If there's one thing they should ape from Marvel it's their financial sensibility. Scale your budgets to your expected returns and so on. And for the love of God, don't greenlight anything that absolutely needs to gross 1 billion.

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An odd place we're in where a $65m opening weekend is considered disastrous.

 

Well, yes. That's what threw me when this whole current section of the thread started.

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Batman Begins didn't do amazingly well, though.

Outperformed expectations, I think. The chances of WW being huge are slim, but doing better than expected and being a good film would still be a big win.                                                             

post #32696 of 34610
It seems like it'll be fine, unless it ends its cume somewhere around 125 or so. It's part of a massive, multi platform franchise, with enormous secondary market gains to lay claim to. It's hardly their biggest gun, and Gadot comes back in six months for Justice League. Unless she's flat out awful in both, she'll be able to work steady for years off of it.

And it'll probably do all right for itself anyway.

This feels like one of the lower stakes releases of the summer to me. I think the biggest question mark, with the most room to surprise in either direction, is Pirates.
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Goddamn Pirates...

I saw the first one, it was enjoyable enough, but... Really?

All these movies? They look completely bereft of any joy or fun.

Can Johnny Depp just calm down and age gracefully, making some more turns for the dramatic?
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It seems like it'll be fine, unless it ends its cume somewhere around 125 or so. It's part of a massive, multi platform franchise, with enormous secondary market gains to lay claim to. It's hardly their biggest gun, and Gadot comes back in six months for Justice League. Unless she's flat or it awful in both, she'll be able to work steady for years off of it.

And it'll probably do all right for itself anyway

This feels like one of the lower stakes releases of the summer to me. I think the biggest question mark, with the most room to surprise in either direction, is Pirates.

 

Has Pirates been a monster franchise or what?

 

After the first one which did $650+ million (and very importantly, $300+ million domestically), it's been just over $1 billion, just under and just over again. 

 

Possible cause for concern is that the domestic is steadily falling each time since the second one but still, the international market to now has been huge.

post #32699 of 34610

I didn't even see the last one. And from what i heard i didn't miss much.

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I didn't even see the last one. And from what i heard i didn't miss much.

 

I've only ever seen Part 2 because a friend of mine wanted to go.

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