Originally Posted by Overlord
This is such an interesting thing to say. I mean, any artistic endeavor, but particular editing, is going to say a lot about the artist. That's kind of the nature of the beast, no? "This is what I think makes a good movie, this is what I think doesn't." "This particular method of putting the footage together best creates narrative cohesion, leaving out this scene, though interesting, does the same purpose."
Do you feel the same way about professional editors? If not? Why?
I personally think fanedits are an interesting, concrete way to approach possible flaws in a movie, but I find your interpretation to be fascinating, as well!!
I can never take fanedits seriously on their own because they are not the actual work of the people that collaborated and created them.
One can say that it's a part of remix culture in which new things come about from the appropriation of existing works of art... and I MIGHT be able to grant that if it weren't for the 'INTENT' that you described above: as a way to approach what is perceived to be flaws in a movie.
So it's not about creating something 'new' the way a musician might sample older songs and create something that feels like its own thing. Fanedits, at least in how I've generally seen them, seem to be intended to REPLACE the original artists' work as the 'superior' one.
Yes, any artistic endeavor will say a lot about the artist. But when it comes to fanedits, I mean something different.
A director and an editor use their skills to craft the final cut in a relative vacuum. They're doing their best with the time and resources allotted them to find a balance between what artistically/commercially drives them and their "best guess" on what their intended audience will find most entertaining/enriching. With each and every one of their choices made from the script to production to post-production, the entire film becomes a collective expression of its creators' collaboration.
A faneditor, on the other hand, is generally working with a VERY limited pool of material (usually just the final film and MAYBE some deleted scenes from special features) from a place of hindsight, trying only to please themselves and others that share their views. As far as I know, no fanedit of an entire film has ever taken the place of the original creators' film in the public consciousness. Please correct me if I'm wrong here. (though, if it hasn't happened yet... I can imagine it eventually happening at some point in the near future)
On that assumption, it means that this fanedit will always be in the shadow of the original, even to someone who put in tons of time to FIX what they think was 'wrong'. So the fanedit will only ever be... as you said above... "a way to approach the possible flaws of a movie". In that way, it's less an alternate cut of a film and something closer to a video essay that provides visual commentary for those who are familiar enough with the original work to take a look at a 'thought experiment.' And honestly it would probably be more enriching for others if these edits WERE done in the form of a short video essay as opposed to being a recut of the ENTIRE movie. It would just save more time for all involved.
The one that Nerdwriter did for PASSENGERS is a good example.
An entire fanedit won't be much of a revealing peek into the mind of the faneditor as a whole, because it was never their work. To be fair, they're probably not trying to present it as THEIR work in anything but the alterations. And it's really in the very specific kinds of alterations where I feel they're revealing more about themselves than merely not liking some specific cut.
I remember watching a fanedit of REVENGE OF THE SITH a long time ago and getting to the big moment where Ewan McGregor screams in anguish for what Anakin has become. He cries about how he was supposed to be the chosen one and all that. But I noticed that this fanedit specifically cut out the line where McGregor says "I LOVED YOU..."
And I immediately thought... "If this faneditor ever tried doing an edit of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I can immediately guess what scenes he'd take out!"
And yes, I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the faneditor was a HE.
On that level, I think fanedits are more like CleanFlicks in spirit.
As I said... fanedits FASCINATE me.
watch my fanedit
Edited by mcnooj82 - 1/14/18 at 3:40am