or Connect
CHUD.com Community › Forums › THE MAIN SEWER › CHUD.COM Main › CHUD NUMBERS: Box Office Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

CHUD NUMBERS: Box Office Discussion Thread - Page 194

post #9651 of 23516

I've a feeling that The Thing is going to fo Fright Night (2011) numbers. It's a prequel to a remake thats over 20yrs old. Can't bode well right?

post #9652 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by felix View Post

I've a feeling that The Thing is going to fo Fright Night (2011) numbers. It's a prequel to a remake thats over 20yrs old. Can't bode well right?


Not to mention, a near 30 year old movie that flopped hard at the box office. I'm with ya. Can't see this doing well.

post #9653 of 23516

I don't think it will tank as hard as Fright Night (and Conan), but I'll be REALLY surprised if it turns out to be a hit.  While I haven't been to the theater much recently, I have NEVER seen the trailer play in front of anything.................or any TV spots for it yet.

post #9654 of 23516

I see the trailer all the time, but I think a 10-ish opening is in the cards.

post #9655 of 23516

I'll be shocked if it manages to score more than 15 mill opening weekend and it is budgeted at 35 million.  Around 10 does seem about right.........................unless the weak box office string continues.  If Friday's numbers are any indication, this weekend looks to be shaking out as follows:

 

1. CONTAGION - $23 million

2. THE HELP - $8 million

3. WARRIOR - $5 million

4. THE DEBT - $4 million

5. COLOMBIANA - $3 million

 

Unless Saturday had a BIG surge in ticket sales, it looks like the weekend total for the Top 5 will be less than $50 million.  OUCH!

post #9656 of 23516

I wonder if all the profitable (Blockbuster size) Remake franchises are all done.

FRIGHT NIGHT was a bust. And I can't see THE THING or FOOTLOOSE remakes making enough cash to spawn a sequel (Though they may make money due to their low budget).

 

Also THE MAN FROM UNCLE? Why would they greenlight a Remake of a show over 30 years ago? Most people these days barely even remember it.

post #9657 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by felix View Post

I've a feeling that The Thing is going to fo Fright Night (2011) numbers. It's a prequel to a remake thats over 20yrs old. Can't bode well right?



What The Thing has over Fright Night is that the original is actually a good movie and has quite a few fans. The original Fright Night wasn't that good of a movie to begin with and hardly anyone knew outside of horror that there even was an original. While I agree The Thing won't be huge, I feel it'll do better than Fright Night for the reason stated before and its October opening. They probably could've done even better if they completely re-invented it ala Dawn of the Dead.

post #9658 of 23516

anyone know if contagion is actually good? I have seen some strong marketing that got me interested, be nice to go catch something new that is well done. I guess the marketplace responded pretty well to this one, the numbers are surprisingly strong in my opinion when compared to the slightly to wildly dissapointing numbers most films have put up over the summer (with few exceptions, apes being a big surprise).

post #9659 of 23516

If only there was a web site that offered reviews of movies.

post #9660 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by felix View Post

I wonder if all the profitable (Blockbuster size) Remake franchises are all done.

FRIGHT NIGHT was a bust. And I can't see THE THING or FOOTLOOSE remakes making enough cash to spawn a sequel (Though they may make money due to their low budget).

 

Also THE MAN FROM UNCLE? Why would they greenlight a Remake of a show over 30 years ago? Most people these days barely even remember it.


I seriously would not be surprised if The Footlose remake does some decent business. It looks horrible and is a totally unnecessary remake, but kids love them some dancing movies, especially if there are white kids dancing in them.
post #9661 of 23516
post #9662 of 23516

I really hope that Drive manages to take off..................but I fear it will get lost in the Fall shuffle like Warrior seems to have.

post #9663 of 23516

I suspect films like Drive are usually ignored by the Mass audience. We should be glad that it was made in the first place and that hopefully it'll be a Cult Hit in the future.

post #9664 of 23516

Disney animation is truly timeless. The Lion King is looking at  a 30 M opening weekend! Biggest re-release since the Star Wars: Special Edition.

post #9665 of 23516

Just came back from a showing of The Lion King.  Relatively well-attended for a 9:20 pm show.  

Putting aside whatever financial boost it'll get, converting the film to 3D was pointless.  I felt no more depth in the image than I did watching my VHS tape over and over again.  The VHS was brighter too.  But I'll chalk that complaint to the theater that projected it.  Also, the sound mix was weak.  I'm not sure if that was the theater's fault.  It sounded like it was.

post #9666 of 23516

I'm absolutely checking out Lion King during the week when the kiddos are in school.  Shit 3D or not, I just want to see that sunrise on the big screen again. 

 

 

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASWVENYAVAVAGICHIMIBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post #9667 of 23516

Oh, definitely do it.  The people in my audience were really loving it.  

 

Just make sure to go to a theater that is reliable when it comes to proper projection and sound levels.  I spent the whole showing stewing in my irritation.  Not that most people in the audience are as anal about it as me.

post #9668 of 23516

Warrior is definitely a disappointment.

 

Rise of the Planet of the Apes is STILL in the Top 10.  It has a domestic total of about $172 million (worldwide total = 391) and with a "alleged" budget of around 93 million, there is no way this puppy won't be getting a sequel (or two).  X-Men: First Class has only made 146 million of its 160 million budget back domestically, but is sitting at almost 353 million worldwide.  I'm guess Fox will be greenlighting that sequel in the near future as well.

 

As for Drive, it made 11 million this weekend and the budget is only 16, so it looks like it should do well as long as it can hold on for a few weeks.

post #9669 of 23516

what is amusing is watching Universal try to whip that dead horse that is Cowboys and Aliens to 100 million domestic, many movies that have performed much better seem to have disappeared (i.e. Capt. America) while CnA holds 634 screen hostage.

post #9670 of 23516

They need to just give up.  It has only just barely made its budget back WORLDWIDE.  It is definitely their Green Lantern of the year.

post #9671 of 23516

Oh man... I just assumed that C&A at least crossed 100 million.  Ouch.

post #9672 of 23516

It came in 18th this weekend and is still sitting right below 100 million.  Uni is definitely going to keep it on for another week or two so it can cross the triple digit marker.

post #9673 of 23516

Cowboys and Aliens, what a fucking embarrassment. 

post #9674 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken View Post

Warrior is definitely a disappointment.



I've been wondering how much of that has to do with the dopey name. A couple of overcooked lines in the trailer may not have helped either.

post #9675 of 23516

I wonder which one was the bigger Box Office Loser? Green Lantern or Cowboys And Aliens?

 

Green Lantern - Budget- 200 Million- Worldwide Gross- $219,738,270- Wasn't there an additional 200-300 million marketing cost attached to this? If so Warner Bros made a huge loss on this.

 

Cowboys And Aliens - Budget- 163 Million- Worldwide Gross- $162,837,000

 

Other losers

 

CONAN 3D - Budget- 90 Million- Worldwide Gross- $48,640,000- Heard it opened way soft even overseas. 

 

Sucker Punch- Budget- 82 Million- Worldwide Gross- $89,752,502- It didn't even break the 90 million mark.

 

Priest- Budget- 60 Million- Worldwide Gross- $78,014,960- I wouldn't expect a sequel to this anytime soon.

 

On the other hand the overseas grosses saved Final Destination 5- $130,727,879- I think there's enough juice for another 1-2 installments more.

post #9676 of 23516

In terms of money, Green Lantern by a mile.  Cowboys and Aliens didn't have a Subway sandwich tie-in with an avocado sandwich.  That shit costs money.  It's also the biggest embarrassment because that one was expected to be good by some people.  The studio certainly pushed it all over the place like it actually was good. Cowboys and Aliens was pretty much expected to suck by most.

post #9677 of 23516

I also heard there's an additional 50, or even 100m to the budget no one officially likes to speak about. And I'm not talking marketing costs.

I bet Conan would have done more if it had been in 2D, and Cowboys and Aliens more if it had been in 3D. Not even 4D could have saved Priest.

post #9678 of 23516

sorry double post

post #9679 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
Cowboys and Aliens was pretty much expected to suck by most.


Really? I know it's a niche genre Western/Sci-Fi mashup but it was directed by Jon Favreau who had a blockbuster with Iron Man, written by the guys who re-invented Star Trek, produced by Steven Spielberg AND Ron Howard, starred Indiana Jones and James Bond. Maybe it would've hit had Robert Downey Jr. stayed on as lead with his specific brand of humor that helped propel the Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes films. Daniel Craig just isn't as accessible.

 

post #9680 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by User_32 View Post




Really? I know it's a niche genre Western/Sci-Fi mashup but it was directed by Jon Favreau who had a blockbuster with Iron Man, written by the guys who re-invented Star Trek, produced by Steven Spielberg AND Ron Howard, starred Indiana Jones and James Bond. Maybe it would've hit had Robert Downey Jr. stayed on as lead with his specific brand of humor that helped propel the Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes films. Daniel Craig just isn't as accessible.

 

 

People laughed at the trailers.  People laughed at the Super Bowl spot.  And look at everything I bolded in your statement.  Everything I bolded only matters to online fanboys, not the general public at large.  Most people (general audience) believed it would suck.  Otherwise, the opening weekend would have been a bit higher, don't you think?
 

 

post #9681 of 23516

Ditto for Green Lantern as well. I believe all of us had a bad feeling when the first shitty Teaser Trailer came out.

 

Still it spawned this hilarious Topless Robot Writeup.

 

Pirates 4 making over 1 Billion sure was a surprise though. I thought audiences were done with that franchise.

post #9682 of 23516
post #9683 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post


People laughed at the trailers.  People laughed at the Super Bowl spot.  And look at everything I bolded in your statement.  Everything I bolded only matters to online fanboys, not the general public at large.  Most people (general audience) believed it would suck.  Otherwise, the opening weekend would have been a bit higher, don't you think?
 


I think people really only laughed at the title as opposed to any of the footage in the trailers.  There was a period of derisive laughter at the title, but I think audiences gradually became open to the concept.  It's just that by the time the movie finally came out, it was an afterthought.  I think it would've done noticeably better business if it had come out earlier in the summer.  Because that's what the movie felt like to me: a movie to kick-off the summer.

 

That really only concerns the movie's weak opening.  With that lack of momentum, the fact that it seems to have been a truly mediocre movie didn't do it any favors.

 

post #9684 of 23516

Beauty and the Beast is likely to end up with a fairly solid Spring release date now for its 3D re-release.  I think we can easily expect The Little Mermaid and Aladdin to go the same route as well.  Personally, I'm all for it.  I would LOVE to see classic films, be they animated or live action, to start getting re-releases.  There are a lot of movies that I never got to see on the big screen or would love to see again.  Considering where I live, I don't get opportunities like that very often.

post #9685 of 23516

If that's what it takes to get hand-drawn animation back into theaters, I welcome it. 

 

But jesus... please offer it without the 3D.  3D on hand-drawn animation is so damned pointless.  More pointless than usual, in fact.

post #9686 of 23516

"Halloween" for Halloween, please. Just not in asshole-tonguing 3D.

post #9687 of 23516

I think at this point the ONLY way a movie is going to get a wide re-release is if it's in 3D. 

post #9688 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by User_32 View Post

I think at this point the ONLY way a movie is going to get a wide re-release is if it's in 3D. 


Sad but true.

post #9689 of 23516

Nick, if you are reading this, I just wanted to pop in here and let you in on something.  I finally managed to see the great Don't Be Afraid of the Dark (such is life with an infant at home) and to my pleasant surprise, the theater was 75% full.  According to a friend I have who works at the theater, Dark is playing very well to the crowd in my area and they'll probably be keeping it around for at least a few more weeks to come.  I'm sure it isn't much of a consolation due to the overall performance of the film, but I just wanted you to know that it has a lot of fans here (myself included).

 

 

 

On the flipside, I also managed to see Warrior (another damn good movie!) this weekend and I was only one of five in the theater.  So depressing.

post #9690 of 23516

A friend of mine hadn't seen Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark and wanted to go with me, so we went to a show in Times Square Saturday night.  Not my favorite place/time to see a movie, especially a horror movie based around whispers, subtle sounds, and slow building tension.  The good news: the theater was at least half full.  The bad news: Typical restless NYC audience, complaining audibly, flashing their smartphone screens around, constantly getting up, leaving the theater, and coming back.  Despite all that, my friend liked the movie and I enjoyed seeing it again.

 

So, people are still going to see it... even if most of them don't seem to like it.

 

post #9691 of 23516

Happy as hell to see Lion King 3D doing so well.  I saw it last Thursday night to avoid the children and potential jackasses, and ended up with an awesome crowd who turned the movie into a Disney version of Rocky Horror.  I knew I was in for it when the entire theater erupted into applause at the opening sunrise.  Everyone sang along to every song, laughed at all the jokes, and you could have heard a pin drop when Mufasa died.  Phenomenal time at the theater.  

 

Anybody shocked at that thing's box office severely underestimated the goodwill and nostalgia for that film. 

post #9692 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

If that's what it takes to get hand-drawn animation back into theaters, I welcome it. 

 

But jesus... please offer it without the 3D.



In my area both Lion King and Dolphin Tale are running on split 2D/3D schedules, presumably so that large families can skip the surcharge by choosing the 'flat' show.

post #9693 of 23516

Dammit!

 

Ahem... that's good.  I just wish I could've seen Lion King in 2D instead.

post #9694 of 23516
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post





In my area both Lion King and Dolphin Tale are running on split 2D/3D schedules, presumably so that large families can skip the surcharge by choosing the 'flat' show.


They did that here, too.

 

post #9695 of 23516

It's working, and now the Lion King is extended.

 

Figured it was worth waiting for actuals today (whether Moneyball and Dolphin Tale were actually going to be across $20m was up in the air), but now I have to go see Real Steel, so expect the wrap up tonight.

post #9696 of 23516

I would seem Real Steel would be a no-brainer for 3D, but I guess not.

 

If not for the giant robots, then for Hugh's biceps.

post #9697 of 23516

Renn, "What's Your Number" is being given the widest release this weekend, and you aren't expecting it to crack the top six? Harsh.

 

This "Courageous" movie has been pushed hard to its audience, and it's lighting up Fandango right now. Wouldn't be surprised at an $18 mil.+ opening.

post #9698 of 23516

I saw the trailer for Courageous a while ago.  I think it played before a showing of Water for Elephants.  Looked more like a TV show.  It looked nice without having any sense of a vision behind it.

post #9699 of 23516

As I am typing my kids are watching Mega mind on cable (someone call social services as I am clearly an abusive parent), so the success of the Lion King is in no way surprising. Lion King was a seminal film for many young parents, and the choice between sharing a childhood treasure with your family or going to see the next Shrek wannabe is an easy one.

 

I think Real Steel will do terribly, I have my own focus group at home (boys 8 n 11) and neither has any interest. In theater reaction to the trailers has been tepid to derisive. I dont think the 40+ year old mom crowd, with their crush on Hugh Jackman, are going to show up and deal with the noise and visuals of Rock Em Sock Em Robots. The only thing Real Steele has going for it is a lack of competition, but with sports, school, holidays coming, families will likely have better things to do than sit through that thing.

 

 

Cowboys and Aliens hanging on to 241 screens making under 200k this weekend, it is short of 100m domestic by around 480 thousand, I am transfixed.

post #9700 of 23516

Their asymptotic desperation to get past $100 is hilarious. Pretty soon they're gonna start the 24/7 busing in of Universal interns to theaters across the country with petty cash to buy tickets.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: CHUD.COM Main
CHUD.com Community › Forums › THE MAIN SEWER › CHUD.COM Main › CHUD NUMBERS: Box Office Discussion Thread