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post #9901 of 23423

It's practically a foreign film, so no real surprise there.

post #9902 of 23423

They also released it a few weeks earlier in Europe.

post #9903 of 23423

If you look at Denzel's track record he's a fairly consistent draw, just not a $100m+ draw. He's not poison by any means, but what they're suggesting is that the budgets and his paycheque are more than his average result justifies.

post #9904 of 23423

We could be looking at a three-peat victory for Puss In Boots this coming weekend.

post #9905 of 23423

Has anyone around here seen Puss In Boots?  Just curious.  Everyone I know that has gone has loved it.............including those who aren't Shrek fans.

post #9906 of 23423
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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken View Post

Has anyone around here seen Puss In Boots?  Just curious.  Everyone I know that has gone has loved it.............including those who aren't Shrek fans.



Liked it fine but didn't love it like the first two Shreks. Definitely an improvement from the last two films though.

 

Best thing going for it is it doesn't tie into the Shrek films at all. Intentionally vague as to where it stand continuity wise.

post #9907 of 23423

Lionsgate is banking that THE HUNGER GAMES hit at 100 Million domestic.

 

At least to justify any sequels. Think this franchise can hit its mark?

post #9908 of 23423

Absolutely.

 

Of all the March releases, I see Hunger Games being the monster hit.

post #9909 of 23423

If they kick the marketing into high gear and actually some stuff beyond Jennifer Lawrence running around aimlessly with a bow & arrow, there's no reason it couldn't reach that goal.

post #9910 of 23423

Felix with John Carter on March 9th and Clash Of The Titans 2 on March 30th,  Jennifer Lawrence's...Games, might be left...HUNGRY, and short of the $100 Million Goal!

post #9911 of 23423

Wrath of the Titans will make money.  I'm not so sure John Carter will.

post #9912 of 23423
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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken View Post

Wrath of the Titans will make money.  I'm not so sure John Carter will.



I suspect the grosses for John Carter will make Disney look back fondly on Prince of Persia.  

post #9913 of 23423

I'm really curious to see how Disney will start ramping up its advertising for John Carter.  Nothing we've seen so far has seemed to click for the general audience AT ALL.

post #9914 of 23423

They'll have to start kicking into high gear soon, so I hope they've been making a lot of headway with the FX.  If not, we're looking at the Green Lantern of 2012.

post #9915 of 23423

S.D. Bob Plissken, I guess I am in the minority as I thought the Trailer to John Carter was...Awesome.  Granted they do need to show some tech, more aliens etc.  There has not even been a...Teaser, for Wrath Of The Titans and that comes out just...3 weeks after John Carter.  You could say...WOTT the heck is going on with the second...TITANic Clash!

post #9916 of 23423
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Absolutely.

 

Of all the March releases, I see Hunger Games being the monster hit.



I doubt it on my part. It just doesn't the love/romance appeal that the Twilight films have. Most likely, this will be the Cowboys & Aliens of 2012.

 

It'll make decent money but not the Blockbuster expectations that Lionsgate is hoping.

 

post #9917 of 23423
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Lionsgate is banking that THE HUNGER GAMES hit at 100 Million domestic.

 

At least to justify any sequels. Think this franchise can hit its mark?



The lighthouse scene alone in Battle Royale has pre-emptively rendered this whole series redundant, creatively at least.

post #9918 of 23423

 

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“We weren’t going to let the violence be gratuitous or the selling point of the franchise,” says Shearmur, who oversaw the Bourne series starring Matt Damon while she was an executive at Universal Pictures Ltd. in 2002. “This is an emotional story about a young girl who sacrifices everything and sets off a revolution she never intended.”

 

post #9919 of 23423

Yeah, I'd have to ask someone who's read it, as I'm still not really sure what the hell it is. Entertainment Weekly assures me that it will be quite the popular movie next year though.

post #9920 of 23423

I am a Hunger Dame, and I can 100% assure you that this will be a hit if they focus on the politics and violence rather than try to turn it into a Twilight clone.  There's romance stuff in the series, but it's not the main point of the books.  Also, Katniss is a far, far, FAR better protagonist than that Bella shit.

post #9921 of 23423

The first book of The Hunger Games is really good. It's never all-out school girl massacre as in Battle Royale, but young Katniss is very often close to death, only narrowly evading murderers, deadly traps and the eyes of the sadistic game players. She's only ever thinking about who she'd like to be with when lying in a dark cave, breathing slowly not to show her position. As a delusional fantasy.

 

Just to make this clear: the THG government forces people to fight in an arena, to the death. It's broadcasted everywhere, in a sickly playful tone, as if it's fun entertainment. These guys would make great partners with OCP.

 

Of course they're correcting it for the movie. Katness will never look like shit, her super awesome looking friends will be way more participating (in the novel, they are not important at all), they will bicker and fight for her love, the system will not be as harsh and any kill that happens, will be offscreen. Instead, Liam Hemsworth and that Journey Boy will spend most of their time trying to bed Mystique. And she will have trouble deciding.

 

We will not like that movie.

post #9922 of 23423

The only way that 'romance' stuff is interesting is if they play it the way they do in the books: as just another strategy towards winning/surviving the game with a hint of "am I really feeling this?"

post #9923 of 23423

I tend to avoid popular literature since a friend recomended a book by Dan Brown (/me shudders). But the description from Myers makes me curious, reminds me a bit of King's the Long Walk and The Running Man. Given I continue to watch the Ultimate Fighter and watched a few seasons of survivor when it came out. The subject remains rich and relevant.

post #9924 of 23423

Immortals, what in the everlovin' fuck.   Eating my humble pie and washing it down with a tall glass of I KNOW NOTHING.

post #9925 of 23423

Didn't expect that as well. I wonder if they'll greenlight a sequel based on those numbers?

post #9926 of 23423

Yeah did not see that coming at all. I thought the writing was on the wall after the complete failures of Conan and Three Musketeers.

 

I wonder if this means Tarsem is finally going to break out? He's similar to Snyder in a lot of ways - both masterful visual stylists with weak spots in the actual storytelling. The main difference is that Snyder has a pulp/geek sensibility and Tarsem has a more classical visual arts sensibility, which I find more interesting.

 

Puss In Boots'  legs are pretty crazy.

post #9927 of 23423

They might be able to salvage something out of The Three Musketeers though. The International Numbers aren't that bad.

post #9928 of 23423
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They might be able to salvage something out of The Three Musketeers though. The International Numbers aren't that bad.



How much of that actually goes back to the studio though? I've heard it can be as little as 15% of the gross (I think I've most often heard around 33% though). I've also heard such things as that there's an absolute cap on the total amount they can get back on revenues from China and possibly India too.

post #9929 of 23423

I'm pretty sure Three Musketeers is an international co-production so the gross probably isn't weighted towards the US.

post #9930 of 23423
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Immortals, what in the everlovin' fuck.   Eating my humble pie and washing it down with a tall glass of I KNOW NOTHING.



That makes us two of us, especially since all the marketing was "IT'S JUST LIKE 300!"

post #9931 of 23423
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That makes us two of us, especially since all the marketing was "IT'S JUST LIKE 300!"



"We ride together.  We die together.  Bad boys for life!"

post #9932 of 23423

Immortals kept Jack and Jill off the top spot, so I think we owe it a debt of eternal gratitude.

 

I think movie studios tend to underrate the appeal of a visually spectacular movie. Even here, on this thread, among movie geeks, a lot of people were saying "Well, maybe I'll see it for the visuals". It's certainly logical that, if you're going to go see something on the big screen, having a really strong visual sensibility is a big incitement.

post #9933 of 23423

Ooh, I called Immortals! Yay?

 

Outside of the big ticket seasons, it really seems situational. In early September, I bet Immortals bombs. But there's been nothing like it for three months, and aside from Paranormal Activity, there's been not much for the teens to go see. That said, Is 36 or whatever really enough to make Immortals a bonafide hit? Looks like a pricey picture, and I could see it ending up around 100 somewhere. I guess with international and other markets, that's plenty.

post #9934 of 23423

Great weekend all around truth be told. Immortals and Jack & Jill both blew past projections (pegged to open in the low 20s) and Puss In Boots continues to hold well.

post #9935 of 23423

The fact that somebody actually watched Jack and Jill makes me a litle sad though.

post #9936 of 23423
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I expect immortals to be very successful. 15 Million opening sounds off. It'll do 20+.



2 weeks 6 days ago. Young people went and saw this movie. This is classic Hollywood simply not making enough films that look interesting visually.

 

Tarsem can shoot a movie. Story be damned but he can shoot the shit out of it. That matters in the studio product infested waters.

post #9937 of 23423
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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken View Post

Has anyone around here seen Puss In Boots?  Just curious.  Everyone I know that has gone has loved it.............including those who aren't Shrek fans.


Just came back from seeing Puss.  Lots of energy, really funny, but missing the heart.  A little too fast-paced for my liking, but it's a lot of fun and gorgeous to see.  Can't say I loved it though.

 

post #9938 of 23423

Judging by Saturday and Sunday's grosses, Immortals could be a case of the Hulk, i.e. opens big, drops quickly and deemed a flop after all.

post #9939 of 23423
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Immortals kept Jack and Jill off the top spot, so I think we owe it a debt of eternal gratitude.

 

Thank God that America actually picked the RIGHT dumb movie to go see for a change.  Jack & Jill had the lowest opening weekend for a Sandler film since Funny People (which is all kinds of ironic).
 

 

post #9940 of 23423

Just saw the new The Hunger Games Trailer.

 

I take it back. This may work out after all. There's a strong dystopian Running Man feel to the whole thing. Jennifer Lawrence looked great as well. I was really surprised actually on how good the trailer was.

post #9941 of 23423

It does look good and it certainly has the chance to do well.  I just don't think Lionsgate should be banking on it hitting Twilight levels of popularity.

post #9942 of 23423

It's a female-friendly young adult book series with rather dark, genre-oriented subject matter. In addition, it stars an extremely charismatic young actress who definitely feels like she could be a huge star in the making, and a premise that's both timely and timeless. And that was a damn good trailer.

 

I definitely think they're not wrong to be expecting big things.

post #9943 of 23423

The Twilight quadrilogy has sold about 115 million copies. Last time I heard, The Hunger Games trilogy about... 15 million.

post #9944 of 23423

I'm not saying it's going to be as huge as Twilight. But it's got buzz. Compare it to something like, say, The Walking Dead--I know, it's a TV show, but I think it's comparable. It's a niche property with a loyal fanbase, but when it makes the jump to the screen that fan passion is amplified. There's a feeling that this is the next big thing. Combine it with a good trailer (and what's shaping up to be good marketing in general) and a hooky premise, and it feels like a winner.

 

Just to be clear, I've never read the books and have no stake in this (except that I'd love it if Jennifer Lawrence became a huge star).

post #9945 of 23423

I think The Hunger Games is gonna be very successful next March (the biggest of all the releases that month in fact).

 

That said, that trailer sucked. It was all build up (Friend of mine told me that's literally the first three-four of the book) with none of the action that's going to get 18-49 males there.

post #9946 of 23423

I'm sure there'll be another trailer that will sell the action a lot more.  I think this trailer does a solid job of getting the premise (Battle Royale) across. 

 

I thought the build-up to the kids being raised onto the surface was nice. 

post #9947 of 23423
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers View Post

The Twilight quadrilogy has sold about 115 million copies. Last time I heard, The Hunger Games trilogy about... 15 million.



Well, I guess it's good people are reading something I guess ...

post #9948 of 23423

Trailer didn't really do much for me. Much less than the Snow White one from last week, even. And as ever, my taste will hold dictatorial sway over all so-called cultural phenoms.

post #9949 of 23423

We're absolutely getting another trailer before the release, so if you thought this one sucked, the next one hopefully will hook you.  Me personally, as a fan of the books, I enjoyed what I saw, particularly the moment where Katniss offers herself in place of her sister, Prim.  It was exactly how I'd pictured it as I read the book.  Of course, the trailer cannot show all of the politics and the violence, but I felt like it did a good job of giving the uninitiated just a taste of what's to come.  I'm pretty damn excited to see Jennifer bring Katniss to life.

 

 

post #9950 of 23423

How about Dragon Tattoo, SHERLOCK HOLMES 2 and GHOST PROTOCOL?

 

Any bets on how well they'll do? Cruise could probably use a big hit and i think HOLMES 2 should do fairly well.

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