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Soldiers Can't Blog Without Approval

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
ARTICLE HERE

"Wired.com has obtained a copy of updated US Army rules (pdf) that force soldiers to stop posting to blogs or sending personal e-mail messages without first clearing the content with a superior officer. Previous editions of the rules asked Army personnel to "consult with their immediate supervisor" before posting a document "that might contain sensitive and/or critical information in a public forum." The new version, in contrast, requires "an OPSEC review prior to publishing" anything — from "web log (blog) postings" to comments on internet message boards, from resumes to letters home. Under the strictest reading of the rule, a soldier must check with his or her superior officer before every blog entry posted and every email sent, though the method of enforcing these regulations is subject to choices made by the unit commanders. According to Wired, active-duty troops aren't the only ones affected by the new guidelines. Civilians working for the military, Army contractors — even soldiers' families — are all subject to the directive as well, though many of the people affected by these new regulations can't even access them because they are being kept on the military's restricted Army Knowledge Online intranet. Wired also interviewed Major Ray Ceralde, author of the new regulations, about why this change has been made."

(read more at the link above)

Frank was pretty insistent that incoming e-mail wouldn't be filtered. I am sort of thinking that it is all being watched, both outgoing and incoming. Joining the military means you lose freedom of speech now, brilliant.
post #2 of 24
Now? Come on, this is nothing new.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Were they as regulated as this before though? I had heard of isolated cases where someone would read something posted by a soldier and then report back to some superior to have that soldier's chops busted, but I didn't think that that was very wide spread. Either way, it still sucks ass and is irony in it's purest form: DEFEND FREEDOM FOR OTHERS, BUT YOU YOURSELF HAVE NONE!
post #4 of 24
Isn't there a chapter in Catch 22 where Yossarian is censoring letters? It's been a long time since I read it, but I seem to remember that he ended up crossing out everything but articles. And signing the chaplain's name too...

Anyway, this is the military finally getting around to thinking about applying the same scheme of censorship to new forms (to them anyway) of electronic communication as they had been applying to every other form of communication since Valley Forge. At the same time, giving the troops any kind of email access makes this amazingly difficult to monitor. They'll probably have to retask the entire Air Force (who have really only been working on their golf games since the Berlin Airlift anyway) to pick up the slack on this.
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ludwig
Were they as regulated as this before though? I had heard of isolated cases where someone would read something posted by a soldier and then report back to some superior to have that soldier's chops busted, but I didn't think that that was very wide spread. Either way, it still sucks ass and is irony in it's purest form: DEFEND FREEDOM FOR OTHERS, BUT YOU YOURSELF HAVE NONE!
Here's the thing about people like you: you don't know anything about the military. No one in the military has much by way of the freedoms they are 'defending.' Ever. You can't just come and go as you please and say what you want in the military. Have you even seen a MOVIE about the military? Jesus.
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
Devin, I was in the Canadian military for 11 years, and we never had regulations like these governing what we were allowed to say or when we were allowed to say it. The only rules when I was in revolved around using your military email accounts to send personal e-mails and whatnot (same as any civilian business), but they had no problems with us using the web or posting on MB's, etc. Thanks for assuming though, that really made my day!
post #7 of 24
And while it's easy to see this as an attempt by an aspiringly all-seeing military to cut off any possible communication of dissent to friends and lovers back home, I think that the logic of censorship is based on an equally long-standing military concern. The article mentions it: OPSEC--Operational Security.

Everyone had a seizure when Geraldo sketched out a map of an upcoming operation on TV, didn't they? In the same way, they don't want Lance Corporal Jones emailing little Susie at home and telling her that he's gearing up for a big sweep through Fallujah in a couple of days. After all, when her dad calls up the Rush Limbaugh show later that day and says what his son-in-law is up to, Osama bin Laden might be monitoring the internet broadcast of the show and pass the info on to his friends in Iraq. Or maybe the Iraqi barber at the base might sit down at the terminal and read the message after Jones leaves. You can laugh at these concerns or not, but the military takes this stuff seriously. "Loose lips sink ships."
post #8 of 24
boy you'd think they were in some sort of strictly-regimented... army, or something.
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Sorry, I should have been more specific. My beef with the regulation is that ALL communication gets monitored and has to pass through the hands of an approval process, and not just from front-line soldiers:

"Under the strictest reading of the rule, a soldier must check with his or her superior officer before every blog entry posted and every email sent, though the method of enforcing these regulations is subject to choices made by the unit commanders. According to Wired, active-duty troops aren't the only ones affected by the new guidelines. Civilians working for the military, Army contractors — even soldiers' families — are all subject to the directive as well, though many of the people affected by these new regulations can't even access them because they are being kept on the military's restricted Army Knowledge Online intranet."

So my wife would have to forward e-mails to me through my C.O.? That's just wrong IMHO. I understand the need to keep data classified. It's no different that obeying IP rules in normal civilain business. And I get that many freedoms are denied to you when you join. Freedom of speech, especially that of your family, should NOT have to be one of the ones you have to give up on outside of Top Secret stuff, you know?
post #10 of 24
In the American military, you sign all of that stuff away the day that you enlist...it's all in black and white on the ridiculously long and intentionally difficult to understand enlistment contract.
post #11 of 24
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The thing with this new regulation though is that it seems like one designed to limit political damage more than one to limit the revelation of top secret information, you know what I mean? The US Military doesn't have the benefits of the protection of whistleblower legislation, so any time you hear anything awful about something that the military has done, more often than not it would be through blogs/emails written by soldiers. Under this new regulation, what are the chances of the rest of us hearing anything bad? It effectively cuts off all critical information coming out of Iraq for you guys, given how deplorable your press is now.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ludwig
Frank was pretty insistent that incoming e-mail wouldn't be filtered. I am sort of thinking that it is all being watched, both outgoing and incoming. Joining the military means you lose freedom of speech now, brilliant.
Big ears don't sink ships, Ludwig. And my wife is not subject to military regulations - I am.

Fortunately, I'm not in the Army, so this doesn't apply to me. If I were in the desert, I doubt my, "But I use a clever alias!" alibi would go very far.
post #13 of 24
Access to YouTube, MySpace blocked on DoD computers.
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DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- Soldiers serving overseas will lose some of their online links to friends and loved ones back home under a Department of Defense policy that a high-ranking Army official said would take effect Monday.

The Defense Department will begin blocking access "worldwide" to YouTube, MySpace and 11 other popular Web sites on its computers and networks, according to a memo sent Friday by Gen. B.B. Bell, the U.S. Forces Korea commander.

The policy is being implemented to protect information and reduce drag on the department's networks, according to Bell.

"This recreational traffic impacts our official DoD network and bandwidth ability, while posing a significant operational security challenge," the memo said.

The armed services have long barred members of the military from sharing information that could jeopardize their missions or safety, whether electronically or by other means.

The new policy is different because it creates a blanket ban on several sites used by military personnel to exchange messages, pictures, video and audio with family and friends.

Members of the military can still access the sites on their own computers and networks, but Defense Department computers and networks are the only ones available to many soldiers and sailors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iraqi insurgents or their supporters have been posting videos on YouTube at least since last fall. The Army recently began posting videos on YouTube showing soldiers defeating insurgents and befriending Iraqis.

But the new rules mean many military personnel won't be able to watch those achievements -- at least not on military computers.

If the restrictions are intended to prevent soldiers from giving or receiving bad news, they could also prevent them from providing positive reports from the field, said Noah Shachtman, who runs a national security blog for Wired magazine.

"This is as much an information war as it is bombs and bullets," he said. "And they are muzzling their best voices."

The sites covered by the ban are the video-sharing sites YouTube, Metacafe, IFilm, StupidVideos, and FileCabi, the social networking sites MySpace, BlackPlanet and Hi5, music sites Pandora, MTV, and 1.fm, and live365, and the photo-sharing site Photobucket.

Several companies have instituted similar bans, saying recreational sites drain productivity.
post #14 of 24
I've been looking all over for further information on this, but the articles I found are all rehashes of the same press release. My question is whether this applies only to .mil computers, like the ones in the offices, or Liberty computers, as well. I'll ask a buddy in the desert and see if I can figure out what's going on.
post #15 of 24
"Frank,

How the hell should I know? I'm in the middle of the desert."

Love,

Bob"
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by devincf
Here's the thing about people like you: you don't know anything about the military.
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Originally Posted by Ludwig
Devin, I was in the Canadian military for 11 years
I thought that was pretty funny.
post #17 of 24
Actually, it was really, really funny.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Eh, it's ok. I rate so little in Devin's world I'm sure that he never knew about me serving. I think I mentioned it a few years ago in some thread or another, but you certainly wouldn't know it from some of the recent political threads I've posted in, that's for sure.

And I should have been way more clear about why I posted this one in the first place. It disturbs me that they seem to be doing this more out of PR/damage control than any genuine security reasons. Poxy posting about the YouTube thing only brings that home even more. "Don't look behind the curtain!"
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Graynadian
I thought that was pretty funny.
I scrolled back down through the thread to see if he'd post again, and I know he won't, Devin hates getting sonned.
Ludwig, I gotta wonder if any soldiers in Iraq had started posting blogs about where they were that day and what they did and a senior officer saw it. Wouldn't that point them to a crackdown on this kind of thing?
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
Some of the best blog reading out there has been done by soldiers. The writers aren't exlpicit in terms of operations the soldeirs are on or anything that can remotely be considered secret (and their superiors, at least in the ones I have read, are aware it's going on), but they are a harrowing glimpse into how life in Iraq is day-to-day for these guys. And I think it's important to have that voice, and not just the constant "they hate our freedom let's torture their asses like Jack Bauer would" rah-rah you get out of most of the mainstream media.

You get so little real news out of Iraq in traditional channels that this type of thing is very necessary IMHO. Sure it's blogging and you have to take everything that gets said with a grain of salt, but I am sad that some of these blogs are going away now. Because you can't fake the emotion behind some of the things these guys write about, political motivations aside. And now we won't even get that glimpse into what it's like there.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun
"Frank,

How the hell should I know? I'm in the middle of the desert."

Love,

Bob"
Well, he never did get back to me. I'm on travel at the moment, however, so I checked for myself and had no problem loggin on to Blogger from a recreational computer.
post #22 of 24
My fav Mil Blog is:
http://www.blackfive.net/
It kicks ass. I can't see that it has changed after recent BS covered by the media, FC.
You tell me.

As for the rest of you....
Decide if its for or against.
post #23 of 24
Ranger Up!!!!!
post #24 of 24
Ok, that last one was just a little creepy.
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