Fallout 3 - Prepare for the Future

Oh my. Time to fire up the first two again. And get a new computer.

The music doesn't fit Fallout at all, but the art is nice.

Whatever it is, it sounds like quite a departure from the previous games. It's really thematic, where as the music of the others was all about ambience. I think the music of the old games was a vital part of giving them that special Fallout feel. It didn't clutter your mind or try to drag you in a specific direction, which made it feel less like a movie and more like you were in that world. Or hanging in the sky, looking down at a weird angle in that world. And it really helped convey the feeling that the world was almost completely desolate.

But it's a different company and it'd be unrealistic to expect them to make a carbon copy of the previous games. I'm interested to see what they've done with it.

I love the new music. It's very similar in tone to Mark Morgan's Planescape: Torment score, and since he scored Fallout 2, It sounds like they've brought him back for 3. Also bolstering my hope that we have nothing to fear is Bethesda's commitment to the Oblivion score, which is among Jeremy Soule's best work.

Hell yes

Absolutely cannot wait for this. Easily my most anticipated far-off game. Huge devotee to the first 2 games.....

I hear they're using the Oblivion engine, but I hope it's still turn based and not derivative Oblivion-esque hack and slash.

Liam Neeson's in: http://pc.ign.com/articles/786/786314p1.html

It's great news. Has Perlman been confirmed?

The carrier looks great. Also, it would be fascinating if Fallout 3 used the Oblivion engine but was also turn based. I can't think of a turn-based FP style game. Alas, I don't think it's gonna happen.

Teaser trailer.

No gameplay footage; just a cinematic.

A brighter future... Underground! And Perlman is back! Beautiful!

This cinematic reminds me a lot of the Fallout Tactics intro.

Tactics got a lot of unjust flak because it was such a departure from the two first games, but I enjoyed it despite all its flaws. It was meant to be an action game, not an adventure game.

Seems like Fallout 3 will probably have a bit of both, and that pleases me.

Yeah, nice teaser. Fall of 2008 is a long ways off, though... <sigh>

I'm wondering how they're going to translate Fallout to a 3D, first-person perspective. I'm assuming Bethesda is looking at making it similar in function to the Elder Scrolls series, which would really be quite all right with me. What I loved about Fallout was always the setting more than the mechanics of the thing, so a derivation from turn-based GURPS style combat won't really bother me.

However, I don't want it to end up being a first-person shooter, so I'm wondering how they're going to handle combat with guns in this one. Perhaps things like a cooldown on automatic weapons (fire a burst, wait a few seconds before you can fire another, with higher skill in certain weapons making the wait time less), gun-jamming, reduced accuracy or increased blowback if you're unskilled with something like a pistol. I think it could work, and I trust Bethesda pretty well to pull it off. I'm just noodling about how they're going to do it at this point.

I figure the range modifiers will be the same, although there won't be any use for action points.

I guess instead of Action Points there'll be Agility Points, and it'll generally affect how fast you move, shoot, change stance, etc.

Even if they make it essentially identical to Oblivion, it would still work (agility points and fatigue being analogous)- although, I'd like to spend skill points myself on level up rather than the 'advance by doing' methodology from Oblivion. I remember spending quite a while in an empty field conjuring scamps one after another in an attempt to pump up my Conjuration skill, and I don't want to do the same with Fallout.

They're doing PS3 and 360 versions too, so don't expect the "classic" isometric gameplay.

I don't think it will be first person. When they say they're going to use the a version of the Oblivion gamebryo engine, remember that one, you can play Oblivion from a third person perspective, and two, other versions of gamebryo have been used to make many top down games, like both Freedom Force games. I think what the're really referring to is that they're using a gamebryo with all the crazy effects and bells and whistles Oblivion had.

Ultimately, in my mind, this would make it similar to Van Buren, which was also 3d for purposes like it had a view that could be rotated around to different angles. So you weren't always walking along walls to get the see-through effect in order to see what was behind them.

Hopefully this won't be as big a cock-up as the Shadowrun game is. If they turn Fallout from an RPG into a FPS, I may just quit playing new video games forever.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/15/fa...ails-revealed/

God, it's cool to start getting excited about a new Fallout game again.

I wasn't too impressed by the trailer, but the new ideas they're talking about sound great.

There's no way they're going to let you kill kids in this, though.

I liked how turn-based combat is kind of back. Much better than getting rid of it altogether.

Interesting solution. Can't wait to see how it works.

The big load of info they dropped the other day is very... tantalizing, to say the least. I'll have to see it in action to believe they can pull it off, but after Morrowind and Oblivion, I'm putting my faith in Bethesda as the company that can do the franchise justice.

I like the elder scrolls games (even after the choices I see as questionable in oblivion) but I'm going to be skeptical about Fallout 3.Fallout 2 is one of my favorite games ever and as much as I want another fallout I'm not sure Bethesda can do the series justice.But I'll judge it when it comes out and hope that they can pull it off.

No Mutants Allowed has scans from the Game Informer Fallout 3 article.

Hey, Zhukov's back! Did you like the film 'A Boy and his Dog?' I don't know which film gives me the best fallout vibe- that one, or Road Warrior.

Hey, if you like Fallout, do yourself a favor and check out 'A Boy and His Dog.' It's a PA sci-fi/comedy about a deranged waste wanderer (played by a young Don Johnson) who has a telepathic link with his genius dog. They stumble upon a subterranean colony of utopists (Vault 13-ish, in some ways), and mayhem ensues.

Now, don't get me wrong- much of Fallout's art design comes directly from Road Warrior (especially the hero character), but the morally ambiguous tone of ABAHD fits more with Fallout than Road Warrior. Rockatansky is, on paper, an anti-hero, but we all know he'll 'come around' in the end and play the reluctant hero. The ending of the original Fallout seemed to toy with this idea, as our Water Chip-hunting hero character 'saves the day' while also blowing the Overseer into tiny chunks (assuming you have the bloody mess trait, which you SHOULD have, dammit!). As does the very ambiguous ending of ABAHD, of which I will say no more until you check it out.

Waterworld's kind of campy, but it has its charms. Mutant shark fishing was cool. I don't like Six String Samurai at all, but some people do.

Uh... depending on your lady, she might not like A Boy and his Dog. Deeeefinitely not a chick flick. Fair warning!

I'm really glad they reworked their third person camera and threw in a solid OTS view for this. Not digging the new super mutant design, it might grow on me. Looks too much like Gears of War/RE: Nemesis. I'm also a little perplexed about the emphasis on the survival & horror aspect of things. (Drinking water from a toilet?? new mutant design looks like a basic evil monster (tm) look at the talking heads from FO 1/2. The mutants still retained some sort of human character.)

Love that one shot in the scan where the Vault 101 Dweller is standing on a ruined street surveying the landscape. Death Animations look to be glorious. VATS Sounds like a good compromise for a shooter-challenged gamer as myself. Not stressing the "go find dad" story like the NMA crowd is, I know it's just an impetus to get you out of the vault and will be secondary to the actual game. Like the water chip, like the GECK.

I just can't stand the hardcore Fallout fanboys. Everytime I make the mistake of checking the comments to the latest Fallout 3 news at NMA-Fallout I'm infuriated by the stupidity of the people dwelling those forums. I know all fanboys are awful, but I've never cared what the people at www.danielcraigisnotbond.com say or what the transfans have to say about Michael Bay, but I just love Fallout and seeing how retarted other fans are makes me sad. They've already decided based on the few details and screenshots that Fallout 3 will be a disgrace and Bethesda should burn in hell for ruining their franchise. Yet I can't stop checking their forums everytime news comes out about F3.

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=720604

It's threads like that which make me pull my hair out, I don't know why but Bethesda's own Forum seems to be full of people who are Austic in some key facet. And to be honest they're a heck of a lot worse than your common or garden 'THIS GAME IS GONNA SUKZ" posters.

They have a sense of entitlement and false nostalgia which games them utterly stangleable.

I don't know what this means, but I want it on a tee-shirt.

I'm going to pretend it's an allusion to Pierre Stangle.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/800/800884p1.html

Includes a couple of screenshots.

Everything is looking and sounding groovy, though I still haven't understood the VATS system.

But this:
Makes me think of Fallout Tactics, and that is not good.

Apparently the inability to murder children is a massive problem.

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...c=721213&st=20

It's really unsettling, the mindset that some people have towards videogames. When you've got people actively chomping at the bit to murder virtual children, and incensed when that is denied them, it puts the whole Manhunt 2 situation in sort of stark contrast.

"At least the PC crowd have the option of modding it in."

...

That actually happened to me once, as a waiter in The Magic Time Machine.

Mobbed by a bunch of annoying 12 year old girls, kicking and pulling, with the den mother, an obviously exhausted woman strung out on valium, almost chanting in monotone, "Girls...girls...girls...let the man through with our food....girls..girls..."

It mirrors real life for some of these people. Sure, they're not going to go around murdering children higgeldy-piggeldy, but the fact that they at least have the option to do so puts a bit of spring into their step.

I understand that, but you don't have to look very far into most of those posts to see that they are really pissed off that they can't pretend to murder children.

I'm not saying it's a great idea.

Maybe this is what got Chris Benoit all mad.