Belethedheliel - Page 2

In your dreams, my love. In your dreams.



...or maybe on the phone.




Nope. It was definitely in your dreams. Except the "I don't want to have sex with Patrick Ripoll" part.

Jesus. I wish some of you would lose your internet connections.

You started it.

Man, I feel like I should apologise or something. My original comment was just a joke.

I've been absent for a few weeks but I want to desperately want to catch up on this Bele-Ripoll sexual tension timeline.

Is it anywhere specific? Preferably in Wiki form?

I don't know what Wiki form is, but it's really easy to pinpoint the beginnings:
05-10-2007 11:09 PM Desert Squirrel hallucinates Bele-Ripoll sexual tension

The funniest part about this thread is how devincf keeps returning.

The funniest part about this thread is how so many people act all indignant when people suggest that South Africans have a strong history of racism and oppression. Rath's kinda right - if you were white, of age, and lived free 'n' easy under Apartheid, you're pretty much a scumbag.

Can somebody please let me, and maybe Chuck Woolery, know if there's going to be a Love Connection here with Bele and either Ripoll or Samurai Mike? Or any Chewer and Charlize Theron?
It's just that Chuck's going to be back in two and two, is what I'm saying.

Righteous indignation makes my head hurt

Just like all white, non-Jewish Americans pre-1960 and any non-persecuted person living in Hitler-era Germany.

Those examples kinda make Apartheid worse, though. They were recent demonstrations of the dangers of good people doing nothing. And yeah, the later something like this occurs, the worse it gets. It's why the Egyptians using slaves to build the pyramids 3000 years ago, while certainly not a good thing, is not nearly as scummy as slavery in America 150 years ago. By then, we shoud've known better.

Who am I kidding? I'm only arguing this because I love all of the discussion in the thread named for Belethedheliel being about Apartheid.

that wasn't his argument.

So theoretically, that makes Iraq worse than Apartheid, which comes back to the glass houses thing. Although Iraq is a foriegn policy disaster, whereas apartheid, Jim Crow, and Nazism were technically domestic policies of their respective governments. So you could, concievably, argue that the United States had the power to speak out against apartheid during the 80s because we'd already attempted to rectify the civil rights in our own country.

I don't know, really, I'm just going with it. The only thing I do know is that in a battle of the charity singles, "Sun City" by Artists United Against Apartheid would certainly wipe the floor with all the other challengers. (I-I-I-I-I-I ain't gonna play Sun Cit-ay, indeed.)

Apples and oranges, Rath. The thing that makes Iraq extra embarassing isn't Apartheid, it's Vietnam. Or any other unsuccessful foray in nation-building you want to throw out.

In other words, Iraq is reprehensibly fucking stupid but it is reprehensibly fucking stupid in a different way than Apartheid.

*group hug*

Yup. I think we can all agree, however, that both Iraq and Apartheid are Belethedheliel's fault.

Well, that was so obvious I figured it went without saying. Though I hate to let Ripoll off the hook.

nm.

Ripoll gets some slack because he's only just come of age. Bel has no exuse whatsoever, and should be forced to pay out reparations to the victims of Apartheid. Including us, who had to spend so much of our Sunday explaining this to a bunch of smelly, thick-headed Afrikaners.

And me, for having to take all this abuse.

Progressive political movements usually come from intellectual circles, which implies that many of the whites who did oppose apartheid (and they were a minority, but hardly a miniscule minority in the 70s and 80s) were essentially from the upper or middle class - white, of age, and free'n'easy-living people.

As for whether apartheid is more shameful because oppression has happened before in world history... please. All oppression is shameful. I don't think we need to devise a top ten chart, especially if "year of injustice" is to be considered a determining factor.

One of my favorite derailments ever.

My biggest question in this thread is this: how the fuck do you pronounce the title poster's name?

Vahl-err-ee.

Vahl-arr-ah...

Is it a South African name ?

No, but it was a Beatles song until your dumbass fucked it up. Ironically you are a lot like Corky from Life Goes On.

No need to derail this further with your anger. I told you I'm sorry about your mom. Yes, she was yelling, but I wasn't hurting her, I swear.

And she was wearing make-up at the time, and it was dark.

So let me get this straight, I think I know what you guys are saying. Ripoll's penis has been suffering an apartheid from pussy for quite some time now (very oppressive), and Belmethheadhelium was the outside influence that swept in and and ended the apartheid with here Nelson Mandela-esque vagina.

Your comeback is a random and weak mama joke? You really need to work on your insults.

So you don't think people should learn from history since you say the year of injustice shouldn't matter.

You're by far one of the slowest individuals I've had the displeasure of meeting, virtually or not. I worked near some trisomic people that understood that some of their behaviors aren't acceptable socially - all by themselves. Something you're obviously not able to do, even if there a shitload of Chewers who called you the douchebag you seem to like to be.

Look, about 90% of all the threads you go in turns ugly eventually. And most of these said threads has fuck-all to do with movies, because you rarely post in any of them, which begs the question: what are you doing on the Chud boards ?

OK. This thread is going into some supremely bizarre territories.

Nah, we can go further down the spiral.

No, I'm saying that South African apartheid isn't necessarily an atrocity worse than American slavery simply by virtue of the fact that slavery ended over a century prior. I also don't think WWII is worse than the Peloppenesian War, despite the fact that we should have already learned via our experiences with all prior wars that "war is bad."

The tragedy of a given event doesn't gain weight by the fact that "we should have known better." Each generation and culture experiences things on its own terms with historical knowledge only a single, small factor. Sad as that may be, I'm not willing to concede that the discrimination against blacks in the U.S. was somehow more morally acceptable than the discrimination against blacks in South Africa or the slavery in Egypt was more morally acceptable than slavery in the U.S., simply because, in both cases, participants in the latter had the example of the former to dissuade them. And that's exactly what follows if you apply the "tragedies are made worse in light of similar tragedies that have already occurred" rule.

(edit) I should add that I feel a little stupider with every response I give to a miyagi post, but personal experience doesn't work the same way as precedent observed through the lens of recorded history. I admit that I personally should know better here.

You sir, are class.

No, sorry, I was not the one who freed him. She lives in St. Louis, and I haven't been in St. Louis since 2003.

And you pronounce Belethedheliel just like it's spelled. No meth heads nor helium required.

(Bell -eh - thed - hell - ee- ell)
And the eh is a short e, like in 'men' not like a canadian 'ay' sound. ETA: all the e's are short e's. (the i is pronounced as a long e, like i's are pronounced in spanish: si? si.)

Or you can call me "Doc" (as my clients and acquaintences do) or "Devaney" (like my friends and colleagues do). In real life, no one who really knows me actually calls me Valeri. Except maybe my mom if she's mad.

That's right for me, but the one who posted is Desert Squirrel. Pronounced: 'de-z&rt 'skw&r(-&)l or 'skw&-r&l (from m-w.com)

Man, I'd love to get my hands on some white African poon.

White African Poon sounds like a pastry or a short-snouted animal of some kind.

Very entertaining. I'm slow because....I don't like you, that makes a lot of sense. You think I care about whether what I say is socially acceptable...yet at the same time you are calling me slow. It would be abundantly clear to the aforementioned Corky from Life Goes On (I love that guy) that I don't give a fuck about offending somebody, saying something controversial, or conforming to what ever you think is socially acceptable. Here is another newsflash, you follow me around to multiple threads where you haven't even posted just to throw in a cheap, substanceless, shit talking jibe. You live in a glass house. Your comeback in this thread was an old, boring momma joke. Your sense of humor and creativity blow. I post in movie threads sometimes. I mostly just read the movie stuff, and there are many times when I couldn't care less about the current movie scene. For example, I will never watch Spiderman 3, ever.

Can I call you William Devane?

So you didn't deflower Ripoll? I assume you hit it second then.

I think you picked the hardest to pronounce screen name in internet history. I could change my name to randomly slapped keys and it would still be slightly easier to pronounce.

I think there were a couple more factors involved in WWII that would make it worse than the Pelopenisian other than 'which happened first," you're making unfair comparisons. Which happened first is still a factor however, people should be able to learn from history. If they only rely on personal experience in their own little corner of the world well then they are kind of dumb for doing that, that is not ok. I will say that the US just got over segregation in the 60s so South Africa getting over apartheid in the 80s isn't all that long afterward in the grand scope of things, but they surely could've done it faster. They did have a nice current example with the US for them to see. The fucking pyramids, when was that 10 billion BC, or a couple thousand, and isn't it questionable as to exactly how they were built. Anyway it's really simple, history is not the only factor, but it sure as fuck is a factor.

(edit) get over yourself, you're prententious but people here buy it.

Take a deep breath and remember to use proper sentence breaks and punctuation when you reply. Okay. Now explain to me how I'm pretentious. Be specific.*


* For instance, the pretense that you seem to operate under is that, like a self-important morning DJ, you say what everyone else is too afraid to say and don't care what people think... which, of course, is absolute horseshit. It's not that anyone's afraid to write what you write; it's that no one would write it. What you write is usually completely stupid.

Dave, please. Move away from that barrel of fish. And put down that gun.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alex Riviello again.

I think Dave B deserves plenty for this thread.

Go away.