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post #1 of 19
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So, to keep a long dramatic story short, after a few months of giant life upheavals, and my last relationship ending officially on a bittersweet, but inspirational note, I found myself doing a lot of soul searching, and ended up with a dilemma.

The good news is, i came out of it finding my true calling, the one that, the more I think about it, the more it feels like the exact thing my spirit's been calling me to do--and, at the very least, the calling that has a more stable financial base than my current job.

I intend to become a teacher. Specially, English and/or literature.

The conflict: Accomplishing this essentially involves a do-over for a good chunk of my young adult life. I'd be pretty much starting out from where I was 4 years ago, going back to college, but with a much stronger focus on what I want to do. (disregarding the extra coursework I did last year, I already have an AA in Liberal Arts, which is basically a degree in "What The Fuck Am I Doing Here?"). Because I'm the type that easily loses focus if I don't commit gung ho to something, doing this more than likely means leaving my current job, which should be okay, since that professional relationship is going into the shitter anyway, but still involves taking something that will let me just break even after bills, books, and food. The bigger kick in the teeth: this may very well involve me moving back in with my mother for a time, which is doubly awkward since she was the one warning me against doing most of the shit that's happened in the last year or so to begin with.

But, fact is, the idea of doing this makes me happier than anything that's happened professionally in the last 5 years, which has admittedly involved a lot of really cool stuff. Christ, its making me smile just thinking about it while I type. But this does, essentially, involve taking a step backward for a couple of years, and being in my mid-20s, and having barely gotten out from a life of lecture halls and living under my mother's roof, the idea of what I'm going to have to do to pull this off does carry a somewhat pronounced disappointment.

Am I making the right move here? Is following my heart worth spending even more of my 20s in school? Any Chewers been through this same situation? Advice, opinions, encouragement, damning with faint praise, prick-waving threats to manhood from Devin?
post #2 of 19
well the good news is that you have the opportunity to do what you love.

the bad news is unless you get into a private school to teach, you will be dirt poor and probably still live at home with your mother until you die.
post #3 of 19
First off, let me give props to the fact you've found what you want to do. I'm still the quagmire of trying to figure that out as I find my degree is pretty much increasingly irrelevant. (BS in Business Admin/Finance, minor in Econ)

I wouldn't be surprised if you're in an area that offers incentives to people that want to become teachers. I know that's the case over here (Even though some don't want to work LAUSD)

But once again, congratulations.
post #4 of 19
i got myself a BA in Prelaw.

now i want to be a writer.

starting over kinda sucks, but its loads better than not being happy with what you're doing. so huzzah on your decision, and good luck with the schooling. at the age of 45, my mom decided she wanted to be a teacher, and now 7 years later she couldn't be happier professionally.

and you can avoid being stuck living with your parents by continuing your education to at least a masters degree. cause then you'll get paid more.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by Crow
But, fact is, the idea of doing this makes me happier than anything that's happened professionally in the last 5 years, which has admittedly involved a lot of really cool stuff. Christ, its making me smile just thinking about it while I type.
That made me REALLY happy for you. I dunno why, it was just really sweet.

Good luck. I wish a great many blessings upon you and your [mom's] house.
post #6 of 19
Well heres to you hitting on jailbait

Nah its pretty cool that at least you'll be content with your life and you can't put a price on that.
post #7 of 19
I'm biased, but I say go for it Crow. I had a steady job for almost 10 years after I graduated from college but it wasn't what I wanted to do. At age 29, I started graduate school and two years later I can honestly say I don't regret it. Yeah, I'm broke and am currently in finals hell, while all my friends are planning great summer vacations with money saved up from their fancy jobs, but I am doing something that makes me happy. Once I obtain my PhD I'll be on track to get a job teaching at a university and doing academic research (my true passion). It's scary to know that I'll be in my mid-to-late 30's when I get my degree and still at a point where I'm in the beginning stages of my career, but it's worth it to know it'll pay off in the end. Another anecdote is that my aunt decided to change careers in her mid-40's. She stopped her good paying job to go to law school and got her degree at age 50. She's been a practicing lawyer for 10 year now and says she doesn't regret a thing.

It's always worth it to do something that you are truly passionate about. I'm sure you looked into it, but if not you should apply for a teaching fellowship. In NYC, the fellowship pays for you to obtain a Masters Degree in Education and places you in a NYC public school - so you are guaranteed to get a job. I think there is also a stipend so you can cover some expenses, although I don't think it'll fully pay for rent and bills. Find out if there is something similar in NJ. I have no doubt you'll make a great teacher, Crow.
post #8 of 19
Go for it. You're on the right track.
post #9 of 19
Best of luck, Crow! Sairus said it best, you can't put a price on contentment.

I was in a similar situation just out of college - I wanted to be a comic artist and applied to the Joe Kubert School just before graduation. I got in, and was doing pretty good, but had a major case of artistic burnout due to the workload, housemates, etc. I also discovered that I wasn't as into drawing comic pages as much as I thought I would be. Then the comics market crashed (early 90's) and I wound up working as a production artist for an ad agency. I'd take the occasional class here and there and eventually found out I liked working with computer graphics more than the older tools (pencils, paint, ink, etc.). Now, I'm an Art Director for a company that makes learning tools for businesses, making some decent $$$, and am enjoying the hell out of it (no stress whatsoever, lots of free time).

Dreams do come true, Crow!
post #10 of 19
It's never too late. I've been seriously considering going back to college myslef, but can't figure out what I want to do.

Good luck.
post #11 of 19
As a male teacher you will be in high demand. Before you go and try it spend a day in a shopping center listening to the little bastards. I was going to be a teacher and was accpected into a few teachers training programs, but I couldn't take it.

Now I work business...go figure.
post #12 of 19
Life is too short to spend 40, 60, or 80 hours a week doing something you don't like when something you enjoy (or preferably, are passionate about) is available and will keep you in food and rent.

Go for it, and good on you for doing it.
post #13 of 19
Hey Crow, congratulations! Hopefully this helps with your Panic Attacks and everything else. You should come to Canada to teach. my entire family are teachers, and we live pretty-to-very well here.


This really is the best decision. It takes a huge amount of balls, but you're doing the right thing.

Its kinda funny reading your post- Everything in my life has set me on the path to being an English teacher, and i know in my heart that its not what i want. I want to leave (in my last semester!) and go into culinary school. But lord knows i don't have the courage.

My life's going to be fucking miserable in a few years.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by captain_oats
Its kinda funny reading your post- Everything in my life has set me on the path to being an English teacher, and i know in my heart that its not what i want. I want to leave (in my last semester!) and go into culinary school. But lord knows i don't have the courage.

My life's going to be fucking miserable in a few years.
Dude, why the fuck are you giving up so easily? If you know that you're gonna be miserable and you also know what you can do to make yourself not miserable then you should be making those plans right now. It doesn't take balls. Just brains.
post #15 of 19
Good luck, Crow. Both my wife and I changed careers about five years ago and we've never looked back. It's been a helluva ride with flirtations with poverty and spending six months living apart due to my first job out of school but we're happier than we ever were before. Plus we now actually own our house which in this market is a helluva nice thing.
post #16 of 19
Dude, come to Florida, we're absolutely crying for teachers down here.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Dude, come to Florida, we're absolutely crying for teachers down here.
I've got family in Florida. It shows.

Thanks for the support, all. Good to know this dare has paid off for so many of you. There's a lot of work ahead (and, indeed, trying to get things sorted out so I can start courses this summer is gonna be a pain), but I feel 100% justified now in making this happen.

To answer the Getting Personal thread, this is why I choose to share this stuff here. Despite the heated arguments, virulent snark, violently opposing ideologies, questionable film tastes, and numerous accounts of raging sexual degeneracy, I trust the vast majority of you guys on matters of the mind and heart more than any other online community I've ever been in.

Oh, and RE: the panic attack, my change in diet has actually stuck. Not only has my energy and mood vastly improved, but I've lost about 15 pounds. Half the shit in my closet now makes me look like MC Hammer.

That said, i still have an annoying spare tire that hasn't shrunk nearly as much as the rest of me, but considering I've struggled with being a big burly bastard most of my life, it's a huge accomplishment. Before this week, that's been a bigger inspiration to sort out the rest of my life than anything else that's come before.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Crow
That said, i still have an annoying spare tire that hasn't shrunk nearly as much as the rest of me, but considering I've struggled with being a big burly bastard most of my life, it's a huge accomplishment. Before this week, that's been a bigger inspiration to sort out the rest of my life than anything else that's come before.
Congrats on maintaining a healthier diet and lifestyle. Midsection fat is hard to lose, especially if you still have a relatively high carb diet. Continuing to exercise to build muscle and keeping your protein levels high will help.
post #19 of 19
You can do it, Crow. I'm right in the middle of my own mid-career reinvention.

Ya know what? Check your PMs. I'm sending you the personal statement I wrote for my law school applications.

In short, you can do it. While I had the advantage of having my tuition paid for by my employer, I was a full-time worker & full-time student for about two years, and I'm married with a kid turning three in July. Sure I had no life, but it's been worth it. Two weeks ago, I graduated with my B.A. in Political Science, and I'm quitting my job this summer to go to law school full-time.

Funny thing is, some time after I pay off the student loans I'm bound to have after law school, I'd like to eventually teach on the side. Probably some poli-sci or law classes at the undergrad level, maybe even history/government in a high school.
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