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post #1 of 27
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This is mostly a reprint of something I put on my movie's myspace page but I figured with Devin and a few other Chewers all heading over to LA around the same time it might be interesting to start a general thread on out-of-towners in the area. Anyways, here's my first impressions of the city, other Angelinos be sure to lemme know what I've gotten right, what you disagree with, what you see as naive or weird perspective on the place. A quick reminder to all readers that this is coming from someone who up until May 21st had never been further west than Pennsylvania.

-When flying in it was spectacular as the sun was setting right over the horizon and there were mountains all around, where we were flying below the ridgeline. The smog layer below us was so thick it looked more like snow than anything, you couldn't see through it at all.

-Just adjusting to the difference in terrain is tough enough, its bizarre to go from the temperate woodlands and meadows of New England to the desert scrub and tall hills of the LA area. The hills around our college's apartments is all scorched earth, there was a huge brush fire in our area just the year before that literally went up to only yards from the building.

-The worst thing about the desert landscape is the fact that wherever you look down in the neighborhoods it's perfectly sculpted green lawns that look blatantly fake, like they just took a grass carpet and unrolled it there. The landscaping industry over here must be massive, and I've heard ridiculous statistics in regards to the amount of water that is sucked into the area just to try and pretend that the grass is supposed to be there. I've never seen such immaculate and sterile looking lawns in my life, they're like the plastic surgery version of plantlife.

-Speaking of the plantlife, the palm trees here are pretty amazing and tall as fuck, and they have giant ferns here so big they look like they'd eat you. I wanna bring one back.

-Everyone always flaps their jaws about LA traffic and driving, but it's mostly just BS. Boston driving and drivers are way worse, the only bad thing here is there's virtually no turn signals, no matter how busy the intersection. The big vans used to move around movie equipment drive like madmen because of their schedules, but other than that if you got LA and Boston drivers together the Boston guys would crazy the fuck out of them.

-There's lots of weird little things out here. The gas stations all have TVs playing commercials at the gas pumps (!?!?). There are ads everywhere here, they have giant posters that cover entire skyscraper sides, billboards that make the ones back home look like postage stamps. They have Orangina in select stores! They have weird supermarket chains called Vons that aren't used for anything but parking lots by yours truly. You're expected to drive everyplace but there's nowhere to park said cars.

-Downtown LA is about the size of downtown Hartford with similar buildings, but it's hilly as fuck, I can't believe they were able to conform a skyscraper section to such an unlevel place.

-In the first few days I maintained that Boston had a higher hot girl ratio than LA but that LA's hot girls were hotter, but I'm beginning to begrudgingly modify this claim. But LA has a ton more fat/eerily plasticized women so that might bring Boston's ratio back to the fore.

-I saw more nice cars my first day here than I've seen in my entire life I think. Same goes for Jewish people. Wherever you go in Hollywood there's insanely expensive-looking cars, and a BMW is like a Honda Civic.

-This place has some great food. Went straight to the In'N'Out Burger from the airport, that place is incredible. First cheap Chinese food place I went to beat ever cheap joint in Boston put together.

-Compared to Boston the police presence here is nil, but when you do see them they're always seriously cracking down on somebody.

-Hollywood's glitzy part is like Disneyland or somethin'. All neon and tourists and stars with celebrity names in them on the sidewalk (still haven't found any footprints/handprints yet). Not really my bag, it feels fake.

-It isn't especially hot here, most of the time it is like the temperatures New England is this time of year. But it's always sunny, apparently it only rains here like once every four months or so and people don't know what to do with themselves. The shininess everywhere tends to feel fake after a while too, like a botoxed smile on a city that has lots of serious problems and lots of down and out, desperate people.

-For a very 'liberal' city LA has lots and lots of serious contradictions that make its leans feel more like lip service than anything. There's no recycling to be found anywhere, the homeless problem here is huuuuge (I heard back during the Reagan years a few local mental institutions were shut down and all the patients set free when they ran out of funding), and of course there's the innumerable gas guzzling vehicles everywhere, up to and including a fleet of Hummer Limousines prowling up and down Sunset Blvd.

-As for career stuff, I got me a great internship that I beat about a million other Emerson kids for, I know I'm gonna love it and learn a lot there. I got to meet the guy running Dark Horse Comics' movie division and that was really cool, and I interviewed for the assistant position for an exec at Miramax but that never went anywhere unfortunately (that woulda been a great way to get The Supermarket seen by important people, that's for sure), but what're ya gonna do. I've seen one big actor, Nick Chinlund, that's it.

All in all, LA's a very interesting place and so far it's felt like I've been on vacation here. Living here for more than a vacation though, might get old quick, but I'd get past it. It'll never, ever feel like home though, and that's something I'm happy to report.
post #2 of 27
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Originally Posted by Stormin
Everyone always flaps their jaws about LA traffic and driving, but it's mostly just BS.
405 Freeway. 5 P.M. Friday. That's all I have to say about the traffic.

You might be more familiar with Safeway as that is Vons' East Coast alter-ego.

If you liked In & Out then you MUST try Tommy's. Not to be confused with Tommie's, which is a bootleg version that can be found at the Northridge Mall. The best chili cheese fries I have had on the West Coast, bar none. And it's cheap as hell, too.

The handprints and shit can be found at Grauman's Chinese Theater, right across the street from the El Capitan. Get the hell off Hollywood Blvd before the sun sets, as the crackheads and weirdos run rampant.
post #3 of 27
I havnt been there since I was a kid, so my memories of the place are all filtered through that lens. I do remember being struck by the amount of signage, and that the concete resevoir/river things from Terminator 2, and grease were actual real things. Also the wideness of the streets was a novelty to me at the time.

I think the thing that stood out the most was that the light, and the smoggy air gave the town a gritty look almost as though you were seeing the world through an old reel of 16mm film stock. (I realise that sounds corny as hell, but like I say this is through the prism of an 11 year old movie geek)
post #4 of 27
Random thoughts...
The thing I despise about driving in LA is the fact that there seem to be 3 times as many cars as parking spaces. The fenced-off lots(lots of them around Hollywood) are convenient but can get pretty pricey.
The Chinese food is awesome, and there's so much competition that the prices are fantastic.
The "heat" there is awesome after being used to East Coast humidity. 90 degrees in LA feels like 70 here in Virginia.
The cops are everywhere, look up at night.

One thing that really threw me off was the amount of homeless. I mean there are a lot of them in any metropolitan area, but the bum levels in LA(downtown to Hollywood) are out of control. When I flew back to Virginia after living there it was truly bizarre to be in Virginia Beach, in front of a shopping center, and not see any homeless around.
I love subways, and other than DC, LA has perhaps my favorite subway system.

I haven't been there since '01, so maybe some things have changed.
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by Mattimus
Get the hell off Hollywood Blvd before the sun sets, as the crackheads and weirdos run rampant.

haha, Hollywood Boulevard is like a theme park version of skid row. It's as if Universal CItywalk opened a 'bad side of town' attraction.
post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7
I love subways, and other than DC, LA has perhaps my favorite subway system.
The Redline is awesome. The last time I rode it the first Valley stop was in Van Nuys but I could take the thing all the way into Downtown. Coupled with the Metrolink it was pretty easy to get anywhere in town without the use of a car.
post #7 of 27
I stopped reading at the ludicrous bit about the traffic not being bad.
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by Mattimus
You might be more familiar with Safeway as that is Vons' East Coast alter-ego.
Safeway is all over the place through most of California. Not sure why they go with Vons in Los Angeles.

Stormin, I can't believe you glossed over the Nick Chinlund sighting. Don't lose your innocence when it comes to moments like that. Cherish them always.
post #9 of 27
He's only been there a week, and over the holiday all of the LA assholes were fucking up my traffic in Vegas. He'll see the folly of his ways sure enough.
post #10 of 27
Whats the equivalent of Ralphs on the eastcoast?
post #11 of 27
Thread Starter 
I'd never heard of a Ralph's, Vons, or Safeway before, all we have is Stop 'n' Shop, Shaws, Geislers, and (growls) ...Big Y.

Maybe I'll think the traffic is crazier after I end up breathing out of a tube, but I'd recommend to people who think it's nuts to try a Boston commute. The streets in downtown are especially inane, given they're based on fucking cowpaths.
post #12 of 27
Traffic in LA is horrible. Try sitting essentially still for an hour, looking at 2 miles of stopped traffic ahead of you.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by devincf
Traffic in LA is horrible. Try sitting essentially still for an hour, looking at 2 miles of stopped traffic ahead of you.
Until you pass the cop that is writing someone a ticket, then it magically moves faster. The rubbernecking is atrocious.
post #14 of 27
Like has been mentioned find the 101/405 interchange between the hours of 4 and 6... or pretty much any point of the day with sunlight, and when you're done spitting expletives and ripping your hair out come back and tell us what you think of the traffic.
post #15 of 27
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Come to think of it I haven't had to do much highway driving here yet due to our digs being located right between Hollywood and Burbank, but I have seen it gets really fucking backed up during rush hour.
post #16 of 27
Rush hour. Ha! They should really call it something more realistic, like Punch steering wheel hour. Thankfully I no longer work in the city. The commute to Malibu is still pretty fucking annoying though, but that's because there's only 1 lane and many slow driving morons.
post #17 of 27
My favorite part of Los Angeles is the 14 mile drive to work that takes 30 minutes in the morning and upwards of 50 to 70 minutes on the way home.

I hate you, 101.

It's even especially great when it rains. No one knows how to drive here.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by Stormin
I'd never heard of a Ralph's
Surely you've seen the Big Lebowski. That's the only reason I'd heard of it.
Carl's Jr. freaked me out a bit since it's basically Hardees but they bring to food to you. To you West Coasters, Hardees is basically Carl's Jr., except you wait for your food, all standing-like.

Also, if you're a fan of "Scariest Police Chases" and COPS and shit like that, local channels are routinely pre-empted for pursuits in progress. News channels may be paranoid they're going to miss the next white Bronco.

True, but hard to believe story:
I can't remember which freeway I was on, but one of my fondest memories from being in LA was passing a city bus that was completely engulfed in flames on the shoulder. No fire trucks, no cops, no ambulances. It was rather amazing and surreal.
post #19 of 27
I live in Hollywood, I had a friend who lived in Santa Monica. We saw each other about four or five times before he moved to New York cause it was simply too obnoxious to plan on driving to see each other on the weekend. But I've got a 20 miunte or less commute, so I'm not about to complain. Also, cause bitching about traffic in LA is like a stand-up routine about airplane food.
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7
True, but hard to believe story:
I can't remember which freeway I was on, but one of my fondest memories from being in LA was passing a city bus that was completely engulfed in flames on the shoulder. No fire trucks, no cops, no ambulances. It was rather amazing and surreal.
POP QUIZ HOTSHOT!
post #21 of 27
L.A. traffic fucking blows. When I lived in Sherman Oaks, it took a million years to get to Wilshire or wherever I was doing junket interviews (except on Sunday mornings). When I lived in Miracle Mile, it took half an hour just to get to a highway (the 10) so I just could try and get anywhere. I remember it taking over an hour once to get from Wilshire and Fairfax to the PCH.

Now I live in Laurel Canyon five minutes above Sunset and simply never leave the house. If I have to get to Santa Monica, I shoot Sunset. LAX, I take La Cienega. Glendale, I take Franklin to Los Feliz. I avoid highways like the plague.

If you ever have to, say, make it from Lionsgate out in Santa Monica to Warners out in Burbank and the only real way to do it is the 405 to the 101 on a Friday afternoon, leave yourself a good two hours.

All that said, Boston is much, much worse for different reasons (my dad's family lives there). The roads are a fucking mess as the city's planning/zoning has not been able to update itself in 300 years meaning that there's no real rhyme or reason to the streets. So, you've got drivers used to flooring it all over the place because they have no real idea where they're going, are looking over their shoulder to see what they missed and are late getting somewhere they're never going to find.

One more L.A. bit. Somebody once asked Betty White how you can "get anywhere in Hollywood" and she said, "Well, take Fountain, of course, dear..."

True - if you're just trying to make it from Amoeba to WeHo in 15 minutes. But, at least all the gridlock actually means there's less high-speed traffic fatalities...

...during the daylight hours.
post #22 of 27
if you're on a budget, Ralphs will double your sunday paper coupons, which is nice (I think Vons do that too, but I'm not sure)

I spend more time in the South Bay area than in LA itself, but I have seen a lot of the city and I still go into town every now and then for work or to try out new feeding places. The coolest thing for me about living in (or rather near) LA is seeing a place I recognize from a movie. I do get quite placestruck that way. Just a few weeks ago I was walking about some little sheeshee mall while a friend was there shopping, thinking to myself "where the hell have I seen this place before?". I seriously thought it was deja vu or something, until I looked at it again from this one point at the front entrance and I realized it was the mall in DePalma's Body Double. that was cool. I haven't seen any movie stars though.
post #23 of 27
I remember being downtown at night with a friend who was taking photos of the city. I was just along for the ride, and when I was walking around I was dazzled to spot the shiny rounded tunnel that's in so many movies(from Blade Runner to Charlie's Angels).

Downtown LA is a fucking ghost town at night, by the way, it's kind of crazy. I half expected tumbleweeds.
post #24 of 27
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For the lovva God, where can I find those concrete flood trenches from Terminator 2? I'm assuming they're locked up for no trespassing, but hoping to be wrong.
post #25 of 27
I don't know how you L.A. people do it, I swear to God. I spent a good 45 minutes the other day looking for a parking spot and screaming at my steering wheel. And then I had to skip lunch, because your only two options are trendy cafes with their thirty dollar sandwiches or unfathomable ethnic delis selling what looks like moldering clumps of chimp feces. And then I spent three hours stuck in traffic.

At this rate, I don't think I'm ever going to leave Orange County. I'd much rather make the four-hour commute once or twice a week and not live in a giant, sweltering, hate-filled asshole of a city.

Plus, I'd rather see the location where the Bluths' Frozen Banana Stand burned down than the drainage canals where Arnold's stunt double jumped a motorcycle.
post #26 of 27
It all depends on where you are, and what roads you take.
post #27 of 27
When I went to college they had a mandatory course on parking.

Actually, it was more like everyday I had to drive around campus for an hour looking for a space and would miss the class I was supposed to go to.

So, in LA area colleges they prepare you for that sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Stormin
For the lovva God, where can I find those concrete flood trenches from Terminator 2? I'm assuming they're locked up for no trespassing, but hoping to be wrong.
I do believe that was filmed in Northridge, and I've driven by it many a time.

EDIT: The actual intersection where the truck goes over is Plummer and Hayvenhurst.
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