Treasure Planet Vs. Eight Crazy Nights

I think Treasure Planet will do great. First off, the trailers and commericals make 8 Crazy Nights just make Adam Sandler look a jerk but without any comedy. For his previous films, they've really played up that adorable aspect. Second off, for Thanksgiving weekend, the whole family comes into town and they decide they want to see a movie. Treasure Planet is perfect. It's got great animation, it's a classic story, and it's fun for...well, you get the idea. I'm placing my bets with Treasure Planet.

Neither one is getting my dollar. I hate Sandler and "Treasure Planet" looks like total shite.

8 crazy nights all the way.... It's cheap, it's easy to market and Sandler is playing a happy gilmore style punk that the kids will love...Yes, this film will do very well..

Treasure planet by comparison has no songs, no real marketing campaign and typical animation is truly a dying breed, as shown by the dreamworks horse picture - 'Chimmeron', which didn't fare too well past $70..

IF Disney really wants to keep traditional animation alive, they either need to get Elton John back or another big time talented artist and create a new musical 'fairytale/epic'.... or stick to CGI, which incidentally is all about good songs and legendary artists too..

C'mon Disney, it's not that hard to work out....



Plus treasure planet would have a budget of at least $100, so it's future can only be assured by good DVD sales...

If that Sandler comedy wins, I'm setting fire to David Prowse.

So you liked it?

I've been wanting to do that for ages anyway. ROAD TRIP!

Oh, it's not like we don't know where he'll be. If there is a comic convention, a sci-fi gathering, or a Burger King opening, he turns up.

I also love the way he signs everything, "David Prowse is Darth Vader", as if justifying his existence and your $25. I've always wanted to ask Prowse if James Earl Jones signs autographs, "JEJ is Dart Vader's voice."

Im gonna go see 8 Crazy Nights on wednesday. Screw Treasure Planet.

So is that good or bad for 8CN?

I mean are we pro or anti-Prowse here at CHUD?

For what it's worth I think 8CN will do better over the 5 days.

There are people who are pro-Prowse?

Orthopedic shoe manufacturers.

AsphinctersaysWHA?!?!? First of all, $70 million ain't too shabby, and the film is on its way to becoming a big hit on video...like most animated films. Second of all, there's this little movie called "Lilo & Stitch"...made well over $150 mill...perhaps you've heard of it. People who say traditional animation is dead are like the people who said SF wasn't a profitable genre in 1976. It's only dead if we assume the public goes to see movies based on "Elements" instead of just watching the trailer and going, "that looks good".

Hm, which type of fork shall I maim you with? Oyster or steak?

Yes, like Randy Newman or...Randy Newman...

Which is precisely where Disney is consistantly great at making money. NO Disney animated film of the modern era has EVER lost money, if video and DVD profits are factored in.

Hey, I'm not saying Treasure Planet will be a hit. I seem to be the only person semi-excited about it, even around here. But I love me my space operas, I love me my animation, and it's Musker/Clements who have yet to miss a step in my book. And early reviews, while reserved, have been favourable. Even if it "only" achieves the level of Atlantis I'll be happy, and I actually have the feeling it'll surpass it. Disney has evolved beyond most of the formulaic kinks most people get hung up on.

I'm seeing Treasure Planet the day it comes out. The trailers give it a great look. I know this'll probably sound silly, but I get this Final Fantasy-feel when I see the trailers, though I can't really explain why. In any case, I would much rather give my money to this film than to 8 Crazy Nights. I like Adam Sandler films, but the trailers for this make it look like dick. It says something about a film when the biggest selling point is a new version of the Hannukah song.

chill prankster.. Disney rocks.. Fuck, they had to use Elvis songs in Lilo and stitch didn't they?

Whatever happens, Disney is still cool, but this little stuido called Pixar will continue to kick their animated ass cracks...

Crikey, go prank on someone else's parade.. shove an oyster up ya rod or deal with it nicely...

Oi!

My only gripe with Treasure Planet is that they have ships with decks open to the vacuum of space. I know it's fantasy, but I just can't get my mind around this. I'm a sad, sad person.

Spirit was a film about the adventures of a horse and featured songs by Brian Adams. Enough said.

i'll be seeing Treasure Planet on Wed. looks like its going to be great and from what i've read its not your typical traditional animation - there is a combo of trad and 3D on one of the characters which I can't wait to see how it turns out. It will do well, that I'm sure.

I'm not sure how one would go about shoving an oyster up their rod...sounds VERY painful.

Anyway, my point is that animated films are about way more than songs at this point. The Emperor's New Groove and Atlantis were song-free, and they were both good. Yeah, OK, Lilo & Stitch had Elvis songs, but it wasn't a "musical". In that sense, lots of movies have songs, but I really don't think the kids flocked to L&S for The King. It was just one of many quirky elements.

Thanks Prank, all is forgiven mate..

I think both will do well. I hope to see TP though my movie dollars are miniscule. 8CN looks like a steaming pile of elephant manure, but Jackass raked it in so what the heck do I know. But I put my HSX bucks on both to win.

Jackass and 8CN have nothing in common.

I believe his point was that movies that look completely retarded sometimes end up making a lot of money.

As far as my opinion, I have no interest in seeing either of these two films. I have had a long-standing hatred for Adam Sandler, and nothing on the trailers is remotely funny. The characters seem really annoying (especially the old people) and Sandler just sounds like a jerk.

And Treasure Planet just doesn't seem very interesting at all. I think Disney has lost it's touch over the years. They need to go back to making cute fairy tale movies, because their original creations aren't very good.

I was just making sure that he was not trying to say that they were similar comedies or were targeted at the same audience.

No I just think they both look like shite and one made much more money than it had any right to, that's all.

Jackass was comic genius. I think 8 Crazy Nights looks horrendous, and I am a big Sandler fan.

Mr. Deeds looked very good and anyone who knew what his audience was looking for, knew it would make a shitload of money. All of his fans were vocal prior to the release of Little Nicky that it looked like shit.

I've been wanting to chime in on this for a while. I've seen TP twice now and it is very good. I thought ATLANTIS was great, but I understood why it didn't do it for some of the kids. TP is beautifully animated high adventure with some genuinely funny humor. Martin Short is unexpectedly good. I think it's great.

Also, the ships with decks open to space thing is just a part of the world that it's set in. They sail the "ethirium", which seems to be pretty breathable. It doesn't make sense if you're looking for hardcore Sci-Fi, but surely you aren't looking for that from Disney...right?

I hope you all like it as much as I did. Catch it on an IMAX screen if you can.

Ummmmm no. It appeals to the LCD. There is zero hope for humanity after this. Well not quite true, after all FOTR and Spiderman were gold, so there may be hope yet.

Nighttrap38

Shit, I meant to post that I'm in aggreement with Nighttrap38 on this one. Neither one of these flicks is getting my money. I'm going with Solaris baby.

BTW, is anybody gonna go watch the soon to be Oscar nominated Extreme Ops?

Treausre Planet.

Loved Atlantis. Disney doing good things. If this is "another Atlantis", a genuinely fun adventure with laughs and so forth, it should do fine.

But what is its target audience? Airboarding? Are they hoping to draw in the 12-16 demographic a bit more? An interesting idea for a re-imagining, if it HAD to be done. Looks great. Could still skydive like an iron Pavarotti into a magnetized Kentucky.

I look forward to this, like most flicks these days, and hope not to be disappointed. Set out the dish of chocolatey "YooHoo" for Ganesha and everything.

As for 8 Crazy Nights... thought the takeoff on 8 Mile was a bit, timely. Sandler fresh off his Punch Drunk Love hiatus returning to form (Yes i realize that the production work on the 'toon may have been set in motion first). Has potential, but could horribly fail as well (see all the above-referenced post-Happy/Madison era works).

Spolier: He's a jerk who learns to be good all in the name of Hannukah. It's fun being a jerk, but can his 180 bring in the monekah? It will do mediocre business for an animated film. My prediction-ukah.

Point? I will see both with fingers crossed. If they fail, it's for different reasons.