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post #51 of 236
7/5/07 at 11:31am
14 teams is brutal though I did win a 14 team league when one of my leagues expanded one year.

I think we should keep the 3 tier CHUD leagues the same and just start another one up for those that want a keeper.
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post #52 of 236
7/5/07 at 11:53am
Thread Starter 
cool. I asked because I was Just wondering about getting a few of the die hards that have been around since the beginning back into the main league if they wanted to go keeper.
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post #53 of 236
7/5/07 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by Martianman
And I vote we keep the cap at 12 teams in the league. When you go to 14 teams, you start to dilute the talent pool, and some teams end up a lot weaker than others. I played in a 14-team FoxSports league last year, and the worst 2-3 teams in the league had only 3-4 really good consistent players, then nothing much else.
See, that is almost exactly why I like larger #s of teams. Whent he talent gets diluted, the better and smarter players are more likely to win, and it becomes more about scouting talent and predicting the next season than it does about luck (i.e., whose superstar has the slightly better year).

Now, I might also be biased because I didn't make the A league cut this season... so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Seriously, though, if you haven't tried a large league, you should at some point (especially in baseball). I get bored in the 10 team CHUD baseball leagues with 10 player offensive rosters... there is so much talent on the free agent market, you could make horrible picks half the draft and recover to the point that you are competitive fairly easily. The last few rounds of a draft are almost meaningless as well because you can just grab equally good players off the market before the season even starts.

If somebody starts a B league (if there is enough interest), toss me an invite. kungfumonkeyboy@hotmail.com
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post #54 of 236
7/6/07 at 11:07am
Yeah. I didn't make the A league cut either. Please let me know also if someone does the B league. jlyczak@twmi.rr.com.
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post #55 of 236
7/9/07 at 10:53pm
Thread Starter 
Main league is full. All 12 teams have accepted. Gio is back in and Slowpulse waited too long and is out.

You guys ready?
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post #56 of 236
7/10/07 at 9:33am
ready for some football?
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post #57 of 236
7/10/07 at 2:03pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy Jankis
ready for some football?
Hell yeah.
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post #58 of 236
7/10/07 at 7:50pm
So are we going with the regular gig this time around then? All players will be drafted from scratch? I don't think I ever saw an official response to the conversation.
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post #59 of 236
7/10/07 at 8:10pm
There are 3 new teams so you can't do any hold overs.
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post #60 of 236
7/10/07 at 8:11pm
Does that go for everyone then? (I am one of the new teams bumping up.)
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post #61 of 236
7/11/07 at 12:25am
We've already agreed that we can't switch from re-draft to keeper like that. We have to agree before this year's draft to make it a keeper league for NEXT year.
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post #62 of 236
7/11/07 at 10:22am
Ok, let's put it to a vote:

Vote "Yes" or "No" on turning the 2007 League into a Keeper league.

I vote "Yes".

If this gets approved, then we need to vote on how many players to keep. As mentioned, it's usually 3-5 players.
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post #63 of 236
7/11/07 at 11:04am
No.
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post #64 of 236
7/11/07 at 11:17am
No.

Just make an alternative keeper league.
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post #65 of 236
7/11/07 at 11:22am
Yes.

We can always re-evaluate after next year.
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post #66 of 236
7/11/07 at 6:28pm
Yes.

Eight years in fantasy football, and I've never played in a keeper. A free league is the best way to dabble in it.
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post #67 of 236
7/12/07 at 9:05pm
Yes.

What's the harm, since there's no money involved.
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post #68 of 236
7/12/07 at 9:10pm
No harm if you're getting players back.
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post #69 of 236
7/13/07 at 2:42am
My vote would have to be no. Although if its a clean slate this year with keeper in mind for next season off this years draft I am ok with that.
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post #70 of 236
7/13/07 at 5:52am
Thread Starter 
THE VOTING SO FAR TO MAKE THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE

YES - MAKE IT A KEEPER - 4
NO, KEEP IT THE WAY IT WAS - 3
STILL WAITING FOR A VOTE - 5

Jason Thompson - NO
Sammy Jankis - YES
Martianman - YES
Gio - YES
Wease - NO
Anya - NO
Chris Allen - YES
sweatersbydarwin
Jwinge
Johnny Daywalker
Fazer
Starving Dog
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post #71 of 236
7/13/07 at 6:03am
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There seems to be a bit of confusion concerning starting a keeper league.

Here is the deal, simply.

When a fantasy football league becomes a keeper league, the teams draft their players in that season's draft based on it now being a keeper league. The previous year has no bearing on the new keeper league. Who you had last year does not matter since the league was not a keeper league last year. The keeper league begins the season you make it so. The draft takes place as normal, with all players available. You draft based a lot on age and also on future promise, since it is now a keeper league.

The next season, you choose who your keepers are - 3 to 5 players - and then the draft takes place that year to fill out the rest of your team with the remaining players.

If teams drop out, you have to decide on a way to disperse players to the new teams replacing them. One way is a mini draft, as mentioned earlier. Another way is to offer the vacant teams, with players still intact, to the team coming in to the league. Both ways are fair.

Put simply, if they league becomes a keeper league, the teams from last year do not exist anymore. They were all vacated at the end of last season. The season starts fresh and would be a keeper league from here out.

Vote on it based on that.
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post #72 of 236
7/13/07 at 10:30am
Yeah, Thompson. You'll be one of us when it matters.
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post #73 of 236
7/13/07 at 10:43am
Based on that criteria, Wease is okay with it, but it'd be nice to get an official YES vote from him.
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post #74 of 236
7/13/07 at 10:46am
Starting a keeper from the beginning is cool with me. My vote changes to YES.
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post #75 of 236
7/13/07 at 3:38pm
Thread Starter 
THE VOTING SO FAR TO MAKE THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE

YES - MAKE IT A KEEPER - 6
NO, KEEP IT THE WAY IT WAS - 2
STILL WAITING FOR A VOTE - 4

Jason Thompson - YES
Sammy Jankis - YES
Martianman - YES
Gio - YES
Wease - NO
Anya - NO
Chris Allen - YES
Starving Dog - YES
sweatersbydarwin
Jwinge
Johnny Daywalker
Fazer
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post #76 of 236
7/13/07 at 3:52pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starving Dog
THE VOTING SO FAR TO MAKE THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE

YES - MAKE IT A KEEPER - 6
NO, KEEP IT THE WAY IT WAS - 2
STILL WAITING FOR A VOTE - 4

Jason Thompson - YES
Sammy Jankis - YES
Martianman - YES
Gio - YES
Wease - NO
Anya - NO
Chris Allen - YES
Starving Dog - YES
sweatersbydarwin
Jwinge
Johnny Daywalker
Fazer

Yes, for me.
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post #77 of 236
7/13/07 at 5:24pm
Thread Starter 
THE VOTING SO FAR TO MAKE THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE

YES - MAKE IT A KEEPER - 7
NO, KEEP IT THE WAY IT WAS - 2
STILL WAITING FOR A VOTE - 3

Jason Thompson - YES
Sammy Jankis - YES
Martianman - YES
Gio - YES
Wease - NO
Anya - NO
Chris Allen - YES
Starving Dog - YES
sweatersbydarwin - YES
Jwinge
Johnny Daywalker
Fazer

Looks like it will be a keeper league, as the majority voted to change it. This means the next question is how many keepers will we want to make it. I would say 3 to 5 players. 3 would let you keep your 3 best stars. 5 would almost allow you to keep your main starters. What would everyone want?
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post #78 of 236
7/13/07 at 5:25pm
That's a majority then. This season, we play for keeps.
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post #79 of 236
7/13/07 at 7:42pm
With that criteria I am now in the YES camp.
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post #80 of 236
7/15/07 at 4:42pm
I say NO.

Make an alt keeper league, but since there is a majority.

My question is, How many are we keeping?
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post #81 of 236
7/16/07 at 9:26am
a small number. I like 2, because it still makes the draft very important. But 3 or 4 are ok too.
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post #82 of 236
7/16/07 at 9:26am
a small number. I like 2, because it still makes the draft very important. But 3 or 4 are ok too.
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post #83 of 236
7/16/07 at 9:32am
That is some sort of record, I'm sure. A 12-post? How is that even possible?

More importantly, it's indicative of my margin of victory for this season, so you're all in trouble.
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post #84 of 236
7/16/07 at 9:55am
I'd say that's the next vote. No less than 2, no more than 5. So...

Vote to keep X players:

2
3
4
5


I vote 3.
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post #85 of 236
7/16/07 at 10:48am
officially, I vote for 2.
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post #86 of 236
7/16/07 at 3:17pm
2

i would imagine it makes the choice much more strategic, and keeps a larger talent pool for next year's draft
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post #87 of 236
7/16/07 at 5:46pm
2? Why go keeper if just 2? Try 4 or 5.

I'm not in favor of keeper but if the vast majority want it then fine. But 2 is pointless and doesn't reward for drafting rookies or reaches.
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post #88 of 236
7/16/07 at 6:05pm
Thread Starter 
I go with 3
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post #89 of 236
7/16/07 at 9:13pm
anya makes a good point, i change my vote to 3
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post #90 of 236
7/17/07 at 12:02am
I'll vote 3.
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post #91 of 236
7/17/07 at 6:55am
Sorry I been away for so long (moved and stuff) but I couldn't miss you guys or the Chud FF league.

As for Keeper hmm I agree with Fazer do a seperate league for that.

that being said 3 or 5.
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post #92 of 236
7/17/07 at 10:57am
Three.
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post #93 of 236
7/17/07 at 8:05pm
I vote for three also. Anya makes a good point.

As long as I get Vick with my first pick!!! Keeper, baby!!!

Oops. Maybe not. Someone else will probably be 'keeping' him.
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post #94 of 236
7/17/07 at 8:05pm
I vote for three also. Anya makes a good point.

As long as I get Vick with my first pick!!! Keeper, baby!!!

Oops. Maybe not. Someone else will probably be 'keeping' him.
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post #95 of 236
7/30/07 at 5:26pm
So what's the story on this? Keeper or no? If so 3 or 4 players? If keeper then does that mean no jumping up and down of leagues?
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post #96 of 236
7/30/07 at 11:26pm
Thread Starter 
Keeper = YES
Number of keepers = 3 (based on most people's opinions)

No more jumping up and down, I would say. The league is what it is now. If anyone disagrees, just say so.
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post #97 of 236
8/7/07 at 7:52pm
Of course... I won't be around for draft night. Going out of town that evening.
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post #98 of 236
8/8/07 at 8:48pm
Thread Starter 
What if we move the draft to one week later, Monday, Sept 3?
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post #99 of 236
8/8/07 at 9:25pm
I could do that.
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post #100 of 236
8/8/07 at 9:33pm
just as long as it's not Tue 4-going to Cub game, and the 5th is my money league draft.

Suggestion
Keep 3 player + 1 rookie. you can keep more than 1 rookie but it might keep the waiver wire fuller with people hoarding rookies. Thoughts?
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