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post #151 of 194
7/10/07 at 12:34pm
Maybe it's the Leviathon.
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post #152 of 194
7/10/07 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Fuchs
Why else would Paramount have initially removed those viral videos from the Ethan Haas site from youtube?
Plausible Deniability.
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post #153 of 194
7/10/07 at 2:46pm
I'm a huge Lost fan and didnt follow the Lost Experience...and I'm pretty intrigued by this project after finally seeing the trailer on the big screen-and, yes, the audience i was with oohed and aahed over it-but i just dont have it in me to follow these internet quests for knowledge....so fuck you JJ Abrams
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post #154 of 194
7/10/07 at 3:19pm
Well, word is it's a Cthulu vs Voltron movie with a special guest appearance by Gamera.

And by word is I mean word isn't.
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post #155 of 194
7/10/07 at 3:37pm
The Staue of Liberty is much smaller than I believe it's commonly perceived as being. Perhaps that is due to context - there's very little around it to give it any sense of scale. It's out in the open, on it's own.

I would say maybe slightly larger than depicted in the trailer, but not by very much.

Here's a link to an archival picture on the PBS site of the head on display in a park in Paris. Note the park bench in the lower right for scale.

Here's another shot with figures.
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post #156 of 194
7/10/07 at 3:41pm
Waitaminute.... can't drink 6.... how many Voltron guys were there? 5? See? Can't drink 6!

Makes perfect sense to me.
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post #157 of 194
7/10/07 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by Cow Puncher
Well, word is it's a Cthulu vs Voltron movie with a special guest appearance by Gamera.

And by word is I mean word isn't.
However, that I would pay to see.
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post #158 of 194
7/10/07 at 7:57pm
The more I watch that last scene, the more I'm thinking Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
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post #159 of 194
7/10/07 at 7:59pm
I'm surprised that nobody has tried to use X-Men for reference yet.
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post #160 of 194
7/10/07 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
I'm surprised that nobody has tried to use X-Men for reference yet.
We can only hope that Wolverine will come walking out from behind the Statue of Liberty's head. Then Matt Reeves can proceed to kill off every character that might be fun, interesting, or important in a sequel.
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post #161 of 194
7/11/07 at 6:25pm
If anyone cares, I know very little about Lovecraft and I thought "The Call of Cthulu" was superfun. Everyone should check that out.

As for this, are people going to be genuinely bummed out when this is just a standard-issue monster movie?

And are there any odds that this might be a remake of "The Host"?
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post #162 of 194
7/12/07 at 3:09am
I certainly won't be bummed out if that's the case. I've been wanting to see the return of the giant monster movie for years. I was hoping that the Kong remake would touch off a new wave. I'm still crossing my fingers.
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post #163 of 194
7/12/07 at 11:58am
Transformers might manage to help it get rolling.
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post #164 of 194
7/13/07 at 9:40am
Standard-issue giant monster would be fine with me - I don't have a lot of demands from the genre, and they've already nailed two of them quite nicely.

The thing about the trailer that I keep coming back to is the brief sound at the beginning of the first "roar", where the lights first flicker. There's something compelling about it in a dreamlike way - more like a feminine voice saying something on the edge of intelligibility than a monster's growl. It reminds me of a sound that wakes you from dreaming: you know something prompted you out of sleep, but as you become aware that you are awake, the sound hangs like an echo on the edge of your conscience - significant, yet unresolved...

It's very interesting sound design, and the main element that suggests to me something slightly more along the lines of a Cthulu than a Gojira. It looks like it'll be fun to find out, either way.

I also find it interesting that Abrams somehow managed to get more of a sense of scale into a handheld-shot trailer than Spielberg did in nearly all of War of the Worlds*, and did it using the same tactic of keeping the action with the (ostensible) protagonists.


*I enjoy WotW, despite flaws - probably because it also meets my admittedly soft genre demands.
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post #165 of 194
7/13/07 at 10:45am
Ah, screw it. I'll just let everyone else solve these puzzles. It's back to Flexicon for me.
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post #166 of 194
7/15/07 at 9:03am
Now you can all feel stupid for wasting time on that Flashy website and figuring out who Ethan Haas is.

Not as stupid as the 'Its a lion!' folk but pretty close.
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post #167 of 194
7/15/07 at 8:34pm
There's no article at that Wikipedia link. Was there something there earlier?

Apropos of nothing, Ethan Haas was apparently the name of a character played by Jason Ritter on a show called The Class that lasted one season. The useless things you learn on Wikipedia.
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post #168 of 194
7/16/07 at 2:01am
The recent post about this by Moriarty on AICN mentions how this film will begin. Is it just me or does it seem like they have no concept of how a film done in this style should actually work?
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post #169 of 194
7/16/07 at 4:37am
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Originally Posted by Tom Fuchs
The recent post about this by Moriarty on AICN mentions how this film will begin. Is it just me or does it seem like they have no concept of how a film done in this style should actually work?
It's just you. I think it's an interesting idea.
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post #170 of 194
7/16/07 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by cognizant
Now you can all feel stupid for wasting time on that Flashy website and figuring out who Ethan Haas is.

Not as stupid as the 'Its a lion!' folk but pretty close.
Difference being that the Ethan Haas thing was reported as fact by every news website worth their salt.
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post #171 of 194
7/16/07 at 5:32am
I think the problem with At the Mountains of Madness is that it has no plot to speak of. No real characters, either. The whole thing is just an excuse for Lovecraft to launch into a long, wordy study of the history of his universe. It's his Silmarillion. Not nearly as long, but just as dull.
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post #172 of 194
7/17/07 at 6:00pm
Interesting youtube video breaks down the audio of the trailer and finds hidden screams of people describing the creature

http://www.jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=44
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post #173 of 194
7/17/07 at 6:02pm
Go away.
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post #174 of 194
7/17/07 at 6:27pm
But Jason, his audio breakdown managed to figure out that there was an monster noise at the end of the trailer! That explains the running! This is important shit!
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post #175 of 194
7/17/07 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by retarded voice
It was definitely something.
amazing
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post #176 of 194
7/17/07 at 7:10pm
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Originally Posted by Jesse_Temple
It's just you. I think it's an interesting idea.
I'm specifically referring to SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS the fact that they feel the need to justify the video tape by having someone find it and rewind it to begin the movie. Firstly, this is letting the audience off the hook and telling them that this isn't the end of the world as we know it. Also, it's just bad form if your aim is to ratchet up tension (and by using a handheld video camera angle to shoot your film, that damn well better be the reason they're doing it). END SPOILERS It's not that I think the idea is necessarily bad (I don't think it's really feasible for an entire movie's running time, and the special effects are going to have to work something fierce for the situation to feel 'real' and believable), I just have no faith in the execution given what we've seen so far.
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post #177 of 194
7/17/07 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Fuchs
It's not that I think the idea is necessarily bad (I don't think it's really feasible for an entire movie's running time, and the special effects are going to have to work something fierce for the situation to feel 'real' and believable), I just have no faith in the execution given what we've seen so far.
But what if its ALIENS who find the tape??? Huh? Huh? What do you think of the idea now???
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post #178 of 194
7/17/07 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by cpnspaulding
But what if its ALIENS who find the tape??? Huh? Huh? What do you think of the idea now???
The perfect twist ending is obviously to reveal that the tape is being watched by Aperaham Lincoln.
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post #179 of 194
7/17/07 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by cpnspaulding
But what if its ALIENS who find the tape??? Huh? Huh? What do you think of the idea now???
The perfect twist ending is obviously to reveal that the tape is being watched by Aperaham Lincoln.
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post #180 of 194
7/21/07 at 2:59am
There's a new picture up on 1-18-08.com. Looks like the military is getting involved.
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post #181 of 194
7/21/07 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Detonathor
Shouldn't the Statue of Liberty's head be bigger than that?
lol, god help me but I thought the same thing. I really have to try harder to suspend disbelief, the trailer was a brilliant teaser otherwise. That said, I got a godzilla flashback that makes me slightly worried but it could just be the "monster in big city" similarity.
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post #182 of 194
7/22/07 at 1:38am
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Originally Posted by buffys
lol, god help me but I thought the same thing. I really have to try harder to suspend disbelief, the trailer was a brilliant teaser otherwise. That said, I got a godzilla flashback that makes me slightly worried but it could just be the "monster in big city" similarity.
Statue of Liberty head ain't so big, guys.
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post #183 of 194
7/22/07 at 1:51am
17 feet from the chin to the top of the head.
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post #184 of 194
7/22/07 at 2:43am
I thought you were joking so I looked it up and it is indeed 17' 3" (man, I practically grew up on-line and it still amazes me that something as obscure as the statue's head size is so easily found. Looking it up hadn't even occurred to me).
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post #185 of 194
7/22/07 at 11:38pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Fuchs
It's not that I think the idea is necessarily bad (I don't think it's really feasible for an entire movie's running time, and the special effects are going to have to work something fierce for the situation to feel 'real' and believable), I just have no faith in the execution given what we've seen so far.
Just because they start by finding the tapes and reveal their contents over the course of the movie doesn't automatically mean everything ends on a happy note. JJ has used this style several times (starting in the middle of the story and making it appear as though it's the end) and at some point "real time" catches up to "movie time" and it's no longer a flashback. I'm just sayin'.
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post #186 of 194
7/26/07 at 6:39pm
I'm sure there will be an update on the main site soon, but a friend of mine texted me to say that at Abrams talk at Comic Con he denied that the film's title is "Monstrous" (as seen on a few posters). He also confirmed that the monster in the film is an original creation. He said he was inspired by the Godzilla films to create a similar creature and mythology for the United States that would be all our own.

Kinda makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Oh, and according to another message, he didn't reveal what the real title is. Dammit.

Of course, my buddy could just be lying out his ass. I'll wait for confirmation.
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post #187 of 194
7/26/07 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by MackDaKnife
Oh, and according to another message, he didn't reveal what the real title is. Dammit.
He should have, oficially.
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post #188 of 194
7/26/07 at 6:57pm
If Abrams doesn't watch it, he could be diagnosed with Whedon's Syndrome.
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post #189 of 194
7/27/07 at 12:44am
I thought Whedon's Syndrome was the one where you believe that what you do is so incredibly strange and original that it can't be marketed effectively.
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post #190 of 194
7/27/07 at 6:46pm
The more I learn about this movie, the scarier it gets.

Extreme spoilers
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post #191 of 194
7/27/07 at 6:57pm
Har har har.
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post #192 of 194
7/27/07 at 7:18pm
Spoiler

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post #193 of 194
7/28/07 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted by Nelson
The more I learn about this movie, the scarier it gets.

Extreme spoilers
Wow, what an incredibly tortured buildup to such an incredibly lame joke.
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post #194 of 194
7/28/07 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by Digler80
Spoiler
So the monster is a giant anime bear? Is it pissed off at american kids for liking shitty Japanese cartoons?
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