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Guys and Dolls: A Real Doll documentary

post #1 of 213
7/8/07 at 5:48am
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I didn't know whether to put this in Sex or not, and ultimately decided to put it here just so I didn't have to start a thread in the Sex forum. This is a documentary on people with Real Dolls that Tom found. I watched the whole thing and it is absolutely horrifying. It's NSFW if your boss frowns on Real Doll nudity.

Some quotes:

"Three guns, two girls." -the redneck, regarding his favorite possessions: two Real Dolls, a pistol, a machine gun, and a TEC-9.

"i'm running out of vaginas." -Real Doll repairman

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
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post #2 of 213
7/8/07 at 6:00am
Perhaps it should have gone in the Creature Corner section.
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post #3 of 213
7/8/07 at 6:06am
Nice to see Norman Bates got a new hobby. From stuffed birds to real dolls.
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post #4 of 213
7/8/07 at 7:23am
Is the narrator Admiral Norrington?

Edit: Okay, I LOL'd at "Yeah, that's a two-handed broadsword!"
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post #5 of 213
7/8/07 at 1:47pm
I'm actually quite curious to know how many 'Charlie's have been sold...if any...and to which gender.
http://www.realdoll.com/maledoll1.asp

...and some of the accessories make me feel...strange.

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post #6 of 213
7/8/07 at 2:10pm
I've seen these things on HBO. They really freak me out. Although, one time for a laugh I went to their official site with some friends of mine and we made the most hideous, out of proportion doll possible out of the combinations.
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post #7 of 213
7/8/07 at 2:26pm
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Hahah yeah. And then "just for laughs," you guys "bought" it.
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post #8 of 213
7/8/07 at 2:39pm
First line spoken: "I live with my parents."
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post #9 of 213
7/8/07 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by Tim N.
Hahah yeah. And then "just for laughs," you guys "bought" it.
And then, just to be funny, we fucked it every day for a month.
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post #10 of 213
7/8/07 at 3:10pm
"You just killed a helicopter with a doll!"
"I was outta vaginas"
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post #11 of 213
7/8/07 at 3:32pm
Dr. Realdoll: "I'm running out of vaginas."

Bwhahahaah.
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post #12 of 213
7/8/07 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
First line spoken: "I live with my parents."
I thought you were kidding. wow ...
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post #13 of 213
7/8/07 at 3:47pm
The guy who's mother is dead and he's kept her room exactly as it was is far more scary.
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post #14 of 213
7/8/07 at 3:51pm
"There is NOTHING abnormal about owning a RealDoll, it's an interactive work of art and I've formed a fantastic and reciprocal, yes, reciprocal relationship with my RealDoll, particularly in the bondage & discipline area; Hillside Strangler is a fun one I came up with on my own".
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post #15 of 213
7/9/07 at 12:00pm
While RealDolls are a safer and more legal alternative for the Ed Geins of the world, other 99.9999999999998% of us will continue to think they're an amazing combination of creepy and sad.

And then there's Vulva. Click here if you're over 18 and enjoy juicy erotic
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post #16 of 213
7/9/07 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by Graham
I'm actually quite curious to know how many 'Charlie's have been sold...if any...and to which gender.
http://www.realdoll.com/maledoll1.asp

...and some of the accessories make me feel...strange.
Gary Sinise has been licensed out!
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post #17 of 213
7/9/07 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Brendan
Gary Sinise has been licensed out!
Buy the female model, and you could be boxing Helena every night!
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post #18 of 213
7/9/07 at 2:29pm
I bookmarked it so I can watch it later, I took a peak and got to the part where that first guy takes out the dolls tongue.Very creepy.
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post #19 of 213
7/10/07 at 1:32am
Honestly, I don't think the RealDoll thing is nearly as creepy as some of you are making it out to be. If that creeps you out, I can only imagine how you'd react to some of the shit I've done, and I'm mild compared to some friends of mine.

Hell, these things are certainly a lot more cost-effective and safe than hiring hookers every time you get horny. If a guy who lives alone just wants to get off regularly without dealing with dating, it doesn't seem all that strange to me. I'll bet that at least one of you own four thousand dollars worth of action figures and toys, and those don't even have a practical application. (If you are fucking them, by the way, I don't want to know).

Of course, that first guy calls it a "relationship", so yeah, that's taking it over the top. And kissing it goodbye as you send it off in the crate is creepy. But I'm guessing that a lot of the guys who own these things aren't holding conversations with them and taking family pictures with them at Christmas.
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post #20 of 213
7/10/07 at 1:49am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
Hell, these things are certainly a lot more cost-effective and safe than hiring hookers every time you get horny. If a guy who lives alone just wants to get off regularly without dealing with dating, it doesn't seem all that strange to me.
Had man not perfected the art of jerking off, I could maybe see that point. Banging away at an unmoving, yet chillingly human, form seems to be where I don't quite "get it".
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post #21 of 213
7/10/07 at 1:59am
I'd fuck the plastic shit out of one.
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post #22 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:11am
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Originally Posted by Phil!
Had man not perfected the art of jerking off, I could maybe see that point. Banging away at an unmoving, yet chillingly human, form seems to be where I don't quite "get it".
I don't know about anyone else, but jerking off is quite definitively not fucking. They are very different things. There's more to it than just the need to reach orgasm. Masturbation only cuts it for so long.

But maybe that's just me. I'm a variety junkie. I can't eat pizza two days in a row.

Besides, some guys dig on unmoving. And roofies ain't cheap.
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post #23 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:21am
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To be fair, I think fucking those fake pussies you can get at sex shops is creepy, too.
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post #24 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:21am
They're both masturbation.
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post #25 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:23am
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I don't pay money to masturbate.

I sure as shit don't pay $6,000 to masturbate.
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post #26 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:24am
You're not as retarded as these people.
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post #27 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:28am
Gordon sucks at drums.
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post #28 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:29am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
I don't know about anyone else, but jerking off is quite definitively not fucking.
Banging a non-living, inanimate object is also quite definitively not fucking. (Sidebar: By that criteria, does Ripoli's banana qualify?)

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Besides, some guys dig on unmoving.
Isn't that a fetish, technically? And isn't the thrill from knowing it's a real unmoving person? My experience to it is limited to the Bundy bio-pic, but I'm guessing. But the bulk of these aren't sold to just the "non-moving" fetishists.

The doc is fish in a barrel. I wonder who else they interviewed, whether a lot of them just came off as a normal fella with a vinyl corpse in his closet. Jesus, there's a screening process. You know they had to cut a guy because his Real Doll was too, uh, "unkempt". I just made myself sick.
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post #29 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:31am
Was this intended to be some sort of informative study, or just look at the freaks?
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post #30 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:34am
These docs are always "look at the freaks". If that wasn't on HBO, it will be.
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post #31 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:35am
19 minutes in, "I've had people ask us for pregnant real dolls..." Greg David??
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post #32 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:42am
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Originally Posted by Phil!
Banging a non-living, inanimate object is also quite definitively not fucking. (Sidebar: By that criteria, does Ripoli's banana qualify?)
In terms of the mechanics, and the motion involved, it is. Do I have to get into specifics here? It may not be reciprocal, but it's still fucking.

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Originally Posted by Phil!
The doc is fish in a barrel. I wonder who else they interviewed, whether a lot of them just came off as a normal fella with a vinyl corpse in his closet. Jesus, there's a screening process. You know they had to cut a guy because his Real Doll was too, uh, "unkempt". I just made myself sick.
That's why I can't get really down on any of this. Those guys were almost certainly not representative of the typical customer base, and the mere act of making a documentary about them makes them appear so. They're essentially saying "this is the type of guy who buys this". It's dirty pool. It would be like if Trekkies relegated itself to fat guys in their thirties who literally live in their parents' basements.
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post #33 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:43am
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The part that really killed me was when the repairman pulls out the absolutely wrecked vagina and goes, "He destroyed this thing."

That fucking horrified me.
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post #34 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
In terms of the mechanics, and the motion involved, it is. Do I have to get into specifics here? It may not be reciprocal, but it's still fucking.
So what if you're humping your couch, and you're really getting into it. Is that fucking?
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post #35 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:45am
I dunno, seems kinda strange to me. Why would you stick your dick in a thing like that? Seems kinda strange to me.
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post #36 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:45am
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Dude, Greg, I'm sorry, but I cannot fucking buy that argument. These things cost such a significant amount of change that I'd bet my dollar that the majority of the market is definitely these social lost causes and... whatever that one guy was who had eight of them. He was disturbing on some level I don't have the vocabulary to describe.
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post #37 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:46am
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Originally Posted by stump
19 minutes in, "I've had people ask us for pregnant real dolls..." Greg David??
I am powerless in the face of my illness.
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post #38 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
In terms of the mechanics, and the motion involved, it is. Do I have to get into specifics here? It may not be reciprocal, but it's still fucking.
I disagree. I think fucking has to involve two living things. The definition of masturbation doesn't change with the position or accessories used. If I shove a jar of peanut butter up my ass while masturbating, it didn't cease to be masturbating, nor did it start to become me being fucked by a jar of Peter Pan.
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post #39 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:49am
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Originally Posted by stump
So what if you're humping your couch, and you're really getting into it. Is that fucking?
Yes it is. If you're thrusting your pelvis into something in a repetitive manner, you may be masturbating in a philosophical sense, but the pure mechanics are those of fucking. And the urge to have sex is more than simply the urge to come, and coming is the only thing that masturbating takes care of. Sometimes we just gotta fuck someone or something.
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post #40 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:49am
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Originally Posted by Phil!
I disagree. I think fucking has to involve two living things. The definition of masturbation doesn't change with the position or accessories used. If I shove a jar of peanut butter up my ass while masturbating, it didn't cease to be masturbating, nor did it start to become me being fucked by a jar of Peter Pan.

Now I have to masturbate.
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post #41 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:51am
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
I dunno, seems kinda strange to me. Why would you stick your dick in a thing like that? Seems kinda strange to me.
Well, like I said, I've seen much stranger things. This just seems an awfully minor thing to have a reaction to, by comparison.
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post #42 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:54am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
Yes it is. If you're thrusting your pelvis into something in a repetitive manner, you may be masturbating in a philosophical sense, but the pure mechanics are those of fucking.
This guy knew something was wrong.

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Lawrence I. Sank observed that masturbating prone (lying face downward) could be responsible for sexual problems in some men including anorgasmia and erectile dysfunction, as observed in four men he examined. He coined the term traumatic masturbatory syndrome to describe this theory. As of 2007, no follow-up research has been conducted and the idea is not familiar or widely-held within the medical community. Some sources, however, give credence to the idea. One sex therapist condemned masturbation by rubbing against a pillow or mattress.
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post #43 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by Greg David
Yes it is. If you're thrusting your pelvis into something in a repetitive manner, you may be masturbating in a philosophical sense, but the pure mechanics are those of fucking. And the urge to have sex is more than simply the urge to come, and coming is the only thing that masturbating takes care of. Sometimes we just gotta fuck someone or something.
I've never wanted to fuck, not had someone available, and then ultimately decide to fuck something else. Never. It's a lady or the old tug, and anything else to me is just goddamn weird.

Anything under the sun with a consenting woman is fine (except piss and poo, you goddamn horrible disgusting weirdo people that shit on each other), but when you're fucking a rubber woman in your house all by yourself, I think that's sort of depressing.

I mean, yeah, when I was 9, I stuck my dick in the VCR. But I didn't want to fuck it. It was just, you know, maybe I'll go stick my dick in the VCR and see what that's like.

EDIT: It's addressed below, but for the knee jerkers - I'm using "woman" because I'm speaking about me. This wasn't a knock against homosexuality.
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post #44 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by Phil!
I disagree. I think fucking has to involve two living things. The definition of masturbation doesn't change with the position or accessories used. If I shove a jar of peanut butter up my ass while masturbating, it didn't cease to be masturbating, nor did it start to become me being fucked by a jar of Peter Pan.
Alright, let me ask you this: have you ever gone for an extended period without sex? (Not counting the initial period before losing your virginity) If you have, during that period, did masturbating completely deal with your sex drive? Or did you still feel the need to fuck?

I understand that in terms of being a solo sexual act, it counts as masturbation. But there is a definite mechanical difference between simply handling yourself, and actually making hip thrusting motions into something. That's what I mean by the mechanical difference between jerking off and fucking. It's a real urge, and your body won't simply settle for masturbation forever.

And really, why does it matter whether it's masturbation or not? If some people need something more than self-handling to get off, is it important what it's called? Some people need a picture to look at; I don't.
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post #45 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:57am
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Originally Posted by Tim N.
I've never wanted to fuck, not had someone available, and then ultimately decide to fuck something else. Never. It's a lady or the old tug, and anything else to me is just goddamn weird.
You are endearingly sheltered.
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post #46 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:57am
Actually it's not the hip motions I crave, it's the nibbling of earlobes and sucking of neck. THAT makes sex.
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post #47 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:58am
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Originally Posted by Phil!
This guy knew something was wrong.
This guy made observations on four men. Hardly a statistically significant sample.
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post #48 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:58am
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I didn't have a big reaction, per se, as much as I just thought these dudes were creepy.

Now I'm just sort of reeling from the fact that somebody came to Davecat's rescue, after I defended your need to bang Salma while she was with child.
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post #49 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
Actually it's not the hip motions I crave, it's the nibbling of earlobes and sucking of neck. THAT makes sex.
So if I don't do those things, I'm not having sex?
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post #50 of 213
7/10/07 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by Tim N.
I didn't have a big reaction, per se, as much as I just thought these dudes were creepy.

Now I'm just sort of reeling from the fact that somebody came to Davecat's rescue, after I defended your need to bang Salma while she was with child.
Oh, I'm not defending Davecat. That guy needs therapy. Like I said, I just doubt that he's the typical customer.
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