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Old 11-05-2009, 08:07 PM
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Again, this is only a valid complaint if there wasn't already a plethora of Holmes adaptations. It's like someone getting up in arms about DRACULA 3000* because of the scifi setting, ignoring the huge cinematic history of the character.

You have a DVD player, right?

*Yeah, I know it's a shit flick.
That's not what I mean. I know there are tons of TV shows and made for TV movies, but I always wanted a proper theatrical production with great production values, and now that they finally do it they do this. It just makes me a little sad but it's not like I'm outraged about it.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:30 AM
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I am sort of happy I am in my ealy 40s, I won't be around to see what happens when a generation who devoutly refuse to read...and even brag about the fact..takes control. It won't be pretty.
Oh yeah, because all of those (presumably well read) guys that have been in control for the past 10 years are doing such a bang up job...
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:41 AM
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Thx for the recommendations, gents. Found plenty to read on Project Gutenberg and I think the comparison to potato chips is right on.

As to this whole thing about a generation that refuses to read; got any citations? This sounds more like a get-off-my-lawn-you-kids-with-your-Elvis kind of thing.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:22 AM
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Just another voice adding to the love of Mr Brett as Holmes, he is by far the best version we have had so far.

I always found it funny that Hound of the Baskervilles is the most famous Holmes story, yet, it's the one he is in the least.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:58 AM
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That's not what I mean. I know there are tons of TV shows and made for TV movies, but I always wanted a proper theatrical production with great production values, and now that they finally do it they do this. It just makes me a little sad but it's not like I'm outraged about it.
You mean a modern theatrical production, right? Because Sherlock has been on the silver screen before as well.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:41 PM
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Eh, you can get a copy of "The Complete Sherlock Holmes" on the cheap (try it through CHUD's Amazon link!!!). Do that. I assure you that the stories are like potato chips. You can't read just one.
Getting the complete stories will cost you around 22 bucks ..maybe lessif you shop around.
But if you like Holmes after reading the stories., I recommend saving you shillings and upgrading to the New Annonated Sherlock Holmes volumns. They are pricy, but they are a thing of beauty to behold with all the illustrations, and the notes and introductions will tell you everything you wanted to know about the background of Holmes and Watson, and Late Victorian England in general.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:14 PM
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Holmes of the books, when you get right down to it, is a pretty good case-study of a sociopath: He's a smug intellectual show-off who only doesn't seem to act with any other purpose than proving how much smarter he is than everyone else around him. In most of the cases, he usually winds-up having "solved it" within minutes of hearing the details but made Watson and the other players walk through the whooooole investigation anyway so he can have the satisfaction of going "what, you mean you DIDN'T figure it out? I showed you the WHOLE THING!" A few times he let's Watson go through the whole motions of investigation himself, only to turn up having been there in disguise the whole fucking time and point out all the "obvious" stuff he missed. And at any point that he DOESN'T have anything like that to occupy his time, he's zonked into a cocaine-fueled stupor just to stave off boredom. There's some real Hunter S. Thompson type stuff in terms of his behavior... if they dress the Baker Street set properly in he movie, there should be one wall shot full of holes because Holmes decided to write "Victoria Regina" into it - with a pistol - for want of anything else to do.
This is all in, sociopathy included. Only they forget about the cocaine (booze's all there though) and Queen Victoria's B-Day reference -a "VR" written in bulletholes- was actually over the fireplace... as you''ll may catch.
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This is all in, sociopathy included. Only they forget about the cocaine (booze's all there though) and Queen Victoria's B-Day reference -a "VR" written in bulletholes- was actually over the fireplace... as you''ll may catch.
Good to know. Unsurprising about the coke, since it'd probably take longer to explain than it's worth at this point.

From a "fanboy" perspective, what has me the most intrigued so far (well, other than having a character named McMurdo running about, at least) is the fact that Kelly Reilly is credited as Mary Morstan as opposed to Mary Morstan-Watson - and as this obviously isn't "Sign of Four" one supposes that they're together but not yet married. So I wonder... is that the angle? The Baker Street partnership is strained because Watson is, in effect, leaving the Tree House to go hang out a "dumb ol' girl?" Cause that sounds kinda fun.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:56 AM
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May well be, though Watson's matrimonial state was something Doyle would periodically get confused about himself.
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Good to know. Unsurprising about the coke, since it'd probably take longer to explain than it's worth at this point.

From a "fanboy" perspective, what has me the most intrigued so far (well, other than having a character named McMurdo running about, at least) is the fact that Kelly Reilly is credited as Mary Morstan as opposed to Mary Morstan-Watson - and as this obviously isn't "Sign of Four" one supposes that they're together but not yet married. So I wonder... is that the angle? The Baker Street partnership is strained because Watson is, in effect, leaving the Tree House to go hang out a "dumb ol' girl?" Cause that sounds kinda fun.
I believe that is the gist of it.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:21 PM
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Getting the complete stories will cost you around 22 bucks ..maybe less if you shop around.
I got my copies through Barnes & Noble. Two volumes running about $15 total. Good stuff. Hopefully I can get them sent to me in the UK before the movie opens.

As far as the movie goes, it looks like a Victorian buddy comedy. I'm in for that.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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From a "fanboy" perspective, what has me the most intrigued so far (well, other than having a character named McMurdo running about, at least) is the fact that Kelly Reilly is credited as Mary Morstan as opposed to Mary Morstan-Watson - and as this obviously isn't "Sign of Four" one supposes that they're together but not yet married. So I wonder... is that the angle? The Baker Street partnership is strained because Watson is, in effect, leaving the Tree House to go hang out a "dumb ol' girl?" Cause that sounds kinda fun.
That's exactly it. Much to Holmes' chagrin, she's in fact an "ordinary" girl.
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