I know Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem was made on the relative cheap, but, given the law of diminishing sequel returns (which this franchise is currently following), is the presumed, wafer-thin profit margin on a third AVP movie really worth the investment for 20th Century Fox?
According to our crooked tax attorneys over at ShockTilYouDrop.com, the studio has declared AVP: 3hree III a “certainty”, which means someone’s crunched the numbers to the series’ benefit/fans’ detriment. On the plus side, the actual quality of the film is a complete non-issue; anyone willing to cough up full admission for one of these interspecies showdowns after the cheeseball Paul W.S. Anderson “original” isn’t after a movie that rigorously obeys Aristotle’s three unities (though an Alien/Predator flick that takes place in one physical space over the course of twenty-four hours would be a worthwhile experiment). All the eventual director(s) of this mess-waiting-to-happen (and why not bring back Colin and Greg Strause?) have to do is pack in enough face-hugging and chest-bursting to pad out a ninety-minute run time. Somehow, I have a feeling Fox will push for a PG-13 rating this time (every last slurp counts when you’re this deep into the dregs), but, if not, maybe the filmmakers could throw in some dick. I’d like that.
Expect to hear an official announcement w/r/t the furthering of these conjoined franchises once Alien vs. Predator: Requiem hits DVD on April 15th.
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And to think I pretty much convinced my friends that there would be no AVP3 after the financial and critical slaughtering of Requiem. To me, it seemed like a safe bet, although I guess I should have known better…
Any film that can tarnish two franchises in one, deserves to have its negatives burnt.
And for the record, my two friends thought Requiem was a brilliant film. Maybe I should think about hanging out in a different crowd…
After catching Predator 2 and Alien 3 on TV over the last week it's a little disheartening to see that those now hold up extremely well in light of the bastardization both these franchises have been put though.
Predator 2 is amazing. The subway scene alone is worth the price of admission.
It looks like the Alien franchise has finally fulfilled its destiny. It was a B-movie rescued by Ridley Scott, and to the B-movie category it returns.
Couple of notes, first off, AVPR was a financial success, not a slaughter as it made $128.8 mil on a roughly $40 mil investment. Second of all, it's a fucking B-movie so if you don't like it, don't fucking watch it. Third, there is no reason in hell that one can't like AVPR. I don't think Criterion will be doing a version anytime soon, but again, for Christ's fucking sake it's just a goddamn B movie.
By that same standard masterb, no one should get this worked up about defending a B movie. This is a movie reporting site where opinions come with the territory. If it annoys you so much for people to trash this 'B movie' it may be you who is taking it too seriously.
Maybe you're taking his seriousness too seriously. This is a talkback session so he has every right to air his opinions, Joseph. Next time you dont want to read someone's opinion, maybe you shouldn't read anything ever again. Or go back in time and unread it.
That won't work atomo…time goes forward, not backwards! If you're going to post replies in the talkbacks that are physically impossible, do it somewhere where people who care about physics and take such matters seriously don't have to read it. I know everyone has an opinion in this talkback…but come on!
That B movie argument is wonderful if you love movies like Son of Kong and Godzilla vs insect pussy face 2 The Spawning. As for AvP 3 set it in space and have someone who isn't Shane Fuck You Salerno to write it.
You are a funny motherfucker, Jeremy. These movies eat that dick you refer to.
If you want to rescue this franchise, just bring Back Lance Henriksen. Not to reprise his role as Bishop, but that of "Chains" from the classic Stone Cold. He would easily defeat both alien and predator species with his infectious cackle and shrewd biker wisdom.
I just don't see why this franchise doesn't go the obvious direction: Aliens vs. Aliens. Aliens wind up crashing into East LA and a group of illegals have to find a way to survive both the mean streets and the spawn of the stars. Classic stuff!!! Come on!!!
I wish the 3 Stooges were still alive. Loved to have seen them crazy bastards take on an alien/predator! I imagine Curley doing the nyuk nyuk eye poke thingie with one of those bad boys, or Larry having one of those sumbitches burst out of his stomache while theys eating. Moe be all WTF!!!
I don't get the b-movie refereance. They were both good franchises degraded to B-rated? Why? It wouldn't be such an atrocity if they started out as crap franchises, but Predator (and arguable Predator 2) is a sci-fi/horror classic. “Aliens” is practically a forefather in the genre as well, the aggressive and strong Ripley has been cloned (no pun intended) in many other franchises. Given the Dark horse comic mythology on both subjects, there is tons of material to work with. Instead some hack turns out crapptacular scripts that seem as if they where written by an 8 year-old hopped up on a pixie sticks and snickers sugar high. There is no continuity, and to say there are plot holes is to imply a plot is even there. Sorry, but that seems even beneath the b-movie quality of "standards".
The only reboot I will accept:
ALIEN: TO CATCH A PREDATOR, starring Chris Hansen from Dateline.
LOL burma i want to see that on youtube now. Get to work!! Wow who'da thunk so many people would get fired up and flaming hot over.. this..franchise.. and physics.. lol. The first and second were sad flix for me for the same reasons 'I am legend' was disapointing. It COULD have been so damned kool. The possibilities, the canvas to paint it all with, is so wide and vast and open for great concept(i mean she-it lookit some of the comic books done with these franchises) that what was given to the audiences was.. just..uninspired. I liked Predator 2 because it threw everything into the urban jungle and softly expounded the predator concept without going too deep and getting lame. But heck yeah it feels dated now… The franchise needs to throw down some real concept, fresh filmakers, and damn if they get some interesting actors that are at least fun to watch die..lol
I thought AVP2 was really good actually.
I happen to be a HUGE AVP fan of the first one but AVPR is absolutely garbage, only one friggen predator to carry the movie, come on guys, give me a break!!!
avp2 was'nt that bad, but i agree that one predator in the film was pretty lame, i had no idea that predator was reguarded as a B movie either, in my opinion and alot of critic opinions it was an instant classic, and as for the original alien, what movie was stamped the most scary movie of all time, yours truely it was alien. B movie is somethin you watch like with chuck norris or that steve guy. if its such a B movie as alot of people here say,then why waste money watching avp3 and wasting time commenting,this how ever is my opinion i aint a pro, im just an ordinary guy wishing to see one last avp3 where predator earns his name, and takes out the aliens and the humans lol. or scratch that and lets just have a predator 3, or a new alien.with decent known actors and script writers. i also thought that the music in the first predator made a massive difference to the out come of the film overall. it should be interpreted more into the next film if they make it.
see predator crash land in california maybe, only to bump into there old buddy old chum Mr Shwarzenegger. haha
avp1 looked like a video game, but the acting was pretty good. avp2 had a grittier look to it but the predator and the aliens were better actors than the so called actors especially the guy who played the sherriff. maybe avp3 can pull it all together for once
i wouldnt say that avp1 looked like a video game per say. just that it had bad cg aliens… sorta like alien: resurrection. personally i dont think that aliens should be done in cg at all. hell, in aliens ripley actually had to blow away some well made alien dummys! thats only one problem of many i have with avp1. avp2 was a little better but only because of the urban environment. other then that, the "uber" predator was ridiculously over powered with his endless array of weapons(i admit that the laser grid thing was bad ass). wtf was up with that blue shit that desentagrated only what the predator wanted desentagrated? why didnt it eat anything else? why didnt the jar ever run out? whyyyy? ok, ok, i know they needed a way for the alien infestation to grow but the whole scenario of the predalien impregnating pregnant women with 4 aliens was freakin lame. not to be a nerd but the aliens life revolves around the matriarch. the predalien is nothing special. no more so then the alien that came from the dog in alien 3.
the only thing that will make me want to see an avp3 is if takes place in space and is based around a squad of colonial marines. the avp2 video game had an ok story for its time. something like that wouldnt be so hard to make in a movie. im not saying to make that into a movie, just that it had a better story then both avp movies.
alright i will shut up now 🙂
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