
You and I and all those people out there with a vocal love of film have ruined it for everyone, pimping movies up, falling in love with mediocre films and championing them to near-legendary status. We’ve embraced turkeys, legitimized borderline movies, and elevated modest films in our favorite franchises above and beyond realistic standards. We’ve even embraced the films everyone likes, somehow adding a credibility to them that transcends the mainstream. Sacred cows, little flicks, and everything in between. It’s time we took a look inward and came clean with 25 movies we think need to be taken down a peg or two.
These are our four categories for this list:
These guys have had it too easy. Far too easy. Don’t believe the insane hype.
OVERBLOWN
Good flicks that have gotten too damn big for their britches.
MISUNDERSTOOD
Asshole, you love this film for all the wrong reasons.
WHAT THE FUCK
Something went horribly wrong here and it’s carried over the the fans, who are blinded by shizer.
CHUD’s Logline: Forty-two-year-old Lester Burnham shakes free of midlife ennui by quitting his job, lusting after his teenage daughter’s best friend, and buying a Pontiac Firebird. This disgusts Lester’s career-obsessed wife (Annette Bening), who rebels in her own way by carrying on an affair with the suave “Real Estate King” (Peter Gallagher). Meanwhile, the daughter (Thora Birch) takes up with the new kid next door, Ricky Fitts (Wes Bentley), who sees beauty in windblown brown paper bags. By the way, it’s all narrated from beyond the grave, so you basically spend the entire film waiting for Lester to exit stage Gillis.
Its Legacy: Took down five Academy Awards including Best Picture. Ruined Kevin Spacey. Sidetracked Sam Mendes’s brilliant theater career. Inadvertently endorsed the Lolita fixation for millions of middle-aged men who’ve never read Nabokov (but have heard “Don’t Stand So Close to Me”). Reestablished Conrad Hall’s cinematographic genius for millions of audiences who’d missed Searching for Bobby Fischer. Made everyone an expert on the films of Billy Wilder. Mainstreamed cynicism.
Why It’s Here: American Beauty was destined for overrated status the minute The New York Times‘ Bernard Weinraub proclaimed it “the most talked-about film of the moment”. The problem was that “the moment” was July 2, 1999 – two months prior to the picture’s theatrical release (and not based on early-bird reviews from that year’s Cannes Film Festival). This was no one’s fault but DreamWorks, which was overzealously promoting a difficult-to-market, potential Oscar contender in the immediate wake of Saving Private Ryan‘s surprise Best Picture loss to Shakespeare in Love. They had no interest in a repeat of that heartbreak, and if it meant leaking to the paper of record that Spielberg considered American Beauty “one of the best films he’s seen in years”, so be it.
Though the movie certainly looked the part of a modern classic thanks to Conrad Hall’s lush, meticulous lighting, it was DOA as a satire of middle-class discontent and reprehensible as an emulation of Wilder’s trickiest tonal balancing act, The Apartment (in case you didn’t get that the film was an overt homage, the filmmakers, and especially Spacey, were more than happy to opine as much in interviews). If Alan Ball’s screenplay were a pop song, it’d be “Sowing the Seeds of Love” to Wilder’s “Strawberry Fields Forever”/”Penny Lane”: the dialogue is catchy enough to keep you listening, but you leave the theater humming another, better tune.
Is American Beauty satire? Tragedy? A little of both? A whole lot of neither? As with Six Feet Under, Ball’s empathy for his characters is questionable; there’s no doubt he enjoys torturing them (while delighting in their outré behavior), but when the time for Thomas Newman-scored epiphanies arrives, there’s a stench of obligation. Lester’s a decent guy who succumbs to stereotypical male desires, and he earns our sympathy because he catches a bullet in the face after not fucking Mena Suvari. No sale here, but his beautifully delivered final monologue is ultimately a crock because of those last two lines: “You have no idea what I’m talking about, I’m sure. But don’t worry, you will someday.” Not to be literal, but unless we get unexpectedly plugged by our homosexual Nazi neighbor, we probably won’t. Those regrets that drove Lester mad may be white-hot at forty-two, but they’re faded memories once the equipment stops working; and the direct appeal to the audience undercuts the rough sentiment of not being able to feel “anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life.”
American Beauty never knows if it wants to jar us out of our contented stupor or laugh at us for our ignorant materialistic yearnings. In the end, it does neither well. But it sure looks good in the failing.
A Moment of Piss: “It was one of those days when it’s a minute away from snowing and there’s this electricity in the air, you can almost hear it. And this bag was, like, dancing with me. Like a little kid begging me to play with it. For fifteen minutes. And that’s the day I knew there was this entire life behind things, and… this incredibly benevolent force, that wanted me to know there was no reason to be afraid, ever. Video’s a poor excuse, I know. But it helps me remember. And I need to remember. Sometimes there’s so much beauty in the world I feel like I can’t take it, like my heart’s going to cave in.”
These Ain’t Chopped Liver Alternatives: Sunset Boulevard, The Apartment, Risky Business, The Graduate, Real Life, Ikiru.
Justin Waddell Agrees: It’s been almost 10 years since American Beauty made off with an armload of Oscars and other, more prestigious film awards (a Blockbuster Entertainment Award, for example). However, the bloom has steadily been coming off of the rose petals that so famously covered Mena Suvari’s tits & bits as she skinny dipped in one of Lester’s nonsensical but visually striking masturbation fantasies. When it came out, the nation’s critics seemed to join hands and declare the arrival of an American cinematic masterpiece. Go peep Rotten Tomatoes.com to get a load o’ the lovin’. But, I imagine that if we were to ask them now, some red-faced critics would likely admit to getting swept up in (to paraphrase Jeremy) American Beauty fever. However, the damage has been done, and this thing still gets heralded – the latest kudos doled out by an employee at Blockbuster who proclaimed it to be one of her favorites when I rented it (along with Catacombs starring Shannyn Sossamon) for this Agree.
This is a movie at war with itself. Well, if not a war, it’s at least a tussle. After reading about scenes that were left out, rewritten, or shot then dropped, it seems that Ball’s original script was bent more toward the darkly comic. For example, the two teenage lovebirds convolutedly get framed for Lester’s murder by Cooper’s closeted, military tuff. But, it seems that the studio smelled their chance (and rightfully so, it turns out) to butterfly-net them some Oscar gold. So Mendes attempted to make a darkly comic message movie about suburban living AND real beauty AND a non-humping Humbert Humbert AND the seventeen year itch. It ends up just being a confused jumble. It wants to show us a painful portrait of the neutered, middle class white male. But it also wants us to grant it leeway for a Three’s Company-like scene where an action (a shared joint between Spacey and Bentley) is mistaken for something sexual (a blow job). Jack Tripper, this is a poor, poor tribute.
P.S. American Beauty fans, what’s with Peter Gallagher’s blackboard eraser-like eyebrows? His forehead must get tired holding those things up.
Nick Nunziata Disagrees: This film was in some ways destined to become the poster child for the thickening midsection of American men and the American film industry at the end of the 90’s. All of the good work done from Sex, Lies, and Videotape and forward was being undone by studios who were starting to realize that independent films could also be big business. Miramax had become an odd business model to follow, paving the way for studios to either create shingles to capitalize on the fringe or for them to throw a lot of hype and money into offbeat films that lured the mainstream towards art films. It’s not exactly a new development but it was an odd hybrid of focus grouped bullshit and actual art being mass distributed. If American Beauty had been released in 1998 or 2000, the backlash against it would be a hell of a lot less substantial than it is, because 1999 is a sacred year and one that American Beauty stole out from under a handful of better and more significant films. But, the fact remains that this is a very good movie and like some that we all champion, as remarkable as much for its flaws as it is for its shining moments.
If you dwell on the “Look Closer” marketing motif and the plaudits that arrived before the film came, it’s hard not to go into the film daring it to suck. Begging for it to blow you over lest it feel your wrath. Sam Mendes and Alan Ball are extremely gifted men, and this foray into the bloated, and incontinent psyche of suburbia has some incredible moments and a deft balance of drama and comedy that outweighs the stupid plastic bag scene or the overdone artifice of Lester Burnham’s (Kevin Spacey, who was terrific in this) mid-life crisis and his infatuation with his daughter’s precocious friend (Mena Suvari, fresh off the mothership). Everything is heightened, partially due to the stage background of the filmmaker but also to allow this little section of an ordinary street to become a microcosm for the dissatisfied state of the American culture. People who look like the American dream but harbor resentment and physical and emotional paunch. People who hide deep seeded hatreds that are waiting to manifest themselves. People whose idea of rebellion and change are but tiny strokes of meaningless fluff.
In the same way that Crash was a few years later, American Beauty is heartily superficial. It sees far deeper into its own meaning that its audience ever could. It’s not as heavyweight as it purports to be, but the difference between Mendes and Haggis’s films is the craft involved and the entertainment value. American Beauty is a luscious film to look at, its sense of humor and willingness to well… look closer at some parts of everyday life makes it quite charming. Especially if you’re able to overlook its heist job at the Oscars. It’s gorgeous. It’s funny. It features some amazing work by Spacey, Bening, and Chris Cooper (the fact this film pushed him up the Hollywood chain justifies its existence, imagine Adaptation without Chris Cooper and shut the fuck up about American Beauty. That’s how much Fuck Fish).
It was overrated in 1999 and 2000. Since then it’s become a whipping boy of a movie. Lost in all of this is the fact that American Beauty is a very good film, pretentious at times and a little too much in belief of its hype, but good. Very much so.
Shower jerks. Nazi flatware. Big ‘ol Birch breasts.
Most films would die for such riches.





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Thora Birch got some big ass tittays. I, Hal Hartley, would like to oil them up and bang 'em like an Anna Ohura paizuri video.
Ah shit! Hal Hartley beat me to it.
Don't know if you'll find many dissenting opinions on this one. The backlash started as soon as this thing swept the Oscars, if not earlier. I think Justin hit the nail on the head–Ball's original script was clearly satire, while Mendes/Dreamworks made it into an Oscar movie/tragedy. And for a good alternative…The Ice Storm?
I have to ask: if not American Beauty, than what nominated film should have won Best Picture? I love the film, and while I realize it strives to be more than it is, I have to say that it doesn't get lessened by repeat viewings; Sixth Sense is good for maybe two at best. The Green Mile, while well-made and probably Tom Hanks' last good performance in years, was not better. The Insider is really the only contender I could see taking it instead, but I still have to lean toward American Beauty, myself. Thoughts?
Again, you guys are simply grabbing at straws. This is a great movie. I had no desire to see this movie when it came out because of all the hype. When I finally did, it blew me away. It's funny, fucked up, and just a great story. My buddy, who hates every goddam movie unless it is so obscure that even the director who made it hasn't heard of it, loves this movie. You guys must really be jaded by working for this site. Why don't you knock a movie like Gladiator, that was an ok action movie that some how won best picture AND best actor. Seriously?!!? The only hell that was unleashed was having to sit through that piece of crap and then see it win all those oscars. Also, Jarhead was Mendes worst movie, ok at best. Six Feet Under is one of the best shows ever. Everything about American beauty is fucking great. If you don't think so, suck it like Mr. Fitts!
overrated is only in the eye of the beholder….and the academy of motion pictures
I always considered "American Beauty" to be part of a 1999 trilogy. Watch it with "Fight Club" and "Office Space" and all three films make a lot more sense.
Someone explain to me how a movie that has a huge backlash against it can be OVERRATED?
Maybe in 99, but not in 2008. Oh, unless you mean in the opinions of Blockbuster clerks. Ohhh, maybe you could teach her in the ways of Buster Keaton classics?!?!?
I think I must have seen a different film than Jeremy, Justin and Nick. Even Nick, who is defending the film, seems to have completely missed the Existentialist undertones and the amazing use of symbolism in the film (and I'm not talking about the use of the 'American Beauty' roses).
I mean, fuck, Lester's journey in the film isn't even about going through a midlife crisis. I think all three of you could stand to watch the film again, with as little bias as you can muster, and really pay attention to it.
Kevin Spacey was excellent in this movie, though I agree it ruined him. Hasn't turned in anything worthwhile since. I still like the movie though. It's not particularily deep, but it's almost like sitting in a doctors office and picking up a people magazine. It's glossy and normally you wouldn't read it, but it's entertaining for what it is.
Again, have to agree with the comments – Gladiator is the over-rated piece here. Usually, when a film made by smart and talented people seems to be at war with itself, it's asking you to dig a little deeper. Also, a film is more than the pre-prod script – so that element of the criticism feels like you're digging. Mendes obviously understood he was getting something special from Spacey et al and adjusted accordingly, which is what an artist does. I think the "over-ratedness" of this film has died down over the years and I don't think I've seen it on any Top 10 lists lately, so I think it's audience has realized it was important for the time it came out and the people involved were in top form, but they've moved on. Betty at Blockbuster probably only saw it the week before, so you've got to allow her to have her moment with it. Great observation on the "trilogy" by #7 – the moment when Mena reveals she is a virgin and Kevin's Midlife crisis washes away is a seriously electric moment of cinema (akin to the turn in Fight Club and Office Space's "What I do everyday" scene).
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In the script Lester screws her, though. The powers that be changed it. Now, why did they change it, you'd have to speculate. But I think Jeremy is right – it seems they were set on winning awards. And you probably don't do that with Lester crossing the line. Scooting up to the line, but backing away is safer. Anyway, your point about me reaching is noted, but, like I wrote above, the movie seems confused to me. It's almost like some of the characters (Bening expecially) are working from the original, more comical script, and some aren't. And when you start looking at the history of the movie, the behind the scenes, you can see where the confusion comes from. Still, there's a ton to like in it. And I laughed a lot while rewatching it.
American Beauty was a success not for its quality as a unique (or even interesting) story, but for its remarkable ability to sucker all you idiots into liking it. Sorry to be so blunt, but if this is Best Movie of The Year material, it sure must've been a horrible fucking year. God, where do I begin? There's so much to make fun of.
I can just see some teary-eyed Hollywood executive sobbing, "this movie touches on all the issues–this movie is about American life!" And it does, you know. We see MATERIALISM IN ACTION when beer won't be spilled on a couch, we see REBELLING AGAINST SOCIETY with Spacey's refusal to live out expectations, we see THOSE NAUGHTY SUPERFICIAL PEOPLE acted out by the "dumb blonde" character, and we even see the results of 'growing up' and becoming older and moving to the suburbs!
Unfortunately, the mere act of touching on BIG ISSUES is in no way interesting OR original–particularly when nothing is actually said or realized. The effect is basically a cinematic version of Billy Joel's crappy We Didn't Start The Fire, in which he just reads out dozens of problems on a big list. I can read the newspaper for that, thanks.
If you haven't seen this vomit, here's a quick summary: two self-centered (apparently AVERAGE AMERICAN SUBURBAN) parents live a depressed, redundant life until the father gets a boner because of his daughter's 16-year-old schoolmate and masturbates about her. Apparently this 16-year-old girl has revitalized him in ways that nothing ever could, and he becomes totally goofy, man. He breaks all the rules. Fuck the man. He quits his job! He has no structure! Life is crazy! And chaos ensues with neighbors, drugs, homosexuality, naked breasts, adultery, and the never-ever-ever-let's-'em-down Hollywood climax, MURDER!
Yeah, I know–that plot sounds like a winner. Basically it's targeted to depressed middle-aged losers who revel in the "what have I become?!? Old?!!"-self-appearance based paranoia every waking minute of their lives. I guess there's a lot of you pathetic, hopeless people. Life sure is awful, isn't it?
What's particularly strange about this movie, really, is that although the characters are clearly intended to represent "The American Experience", the actual lives of the characters are painfully EXAGGERATED and RIDICULOUS. Seriously. This sh*t is basically like an episode of Jerry Springer, with ANGSTY GOTH GIRL SHE HATES HER PARENTS GRR and DRUG-DEALER-$40,000-BOYFRIEND and NAZI-EX-MILITARY-BEAT-MY-SON FATHER and CAREER-DRIVEN SCREAM-A-LOT MOM and HIPPIE-REBEL-F**K-THE-SYSTEM DAD and DUMB BLONDE SEX-OBSESSED CHEERLEADER. I've seen more human-like characters on the front of my Rice Crispies cereal box. Anyone who didn't notice these excessively generic identities got suckered in… by the… pseudo-meaningful… dialogue… and its… excessive… use of… dramatic pause… as a… vehicle…
Or maybe you feel like "a freak", too, man, like that girl. You know, the girl who was basically GOTH except never explicitly referred to as such. I just wish the movie provided an explanation of why this tortured gothic soul was a CHEERLEADER. I wouldn't normally harp on such a minor, lamely unexplained detail, except this is a great metaphor for the entire movie: everything is completely over-extended to ADVANCE THE STORY, regardless of how unrealistic, uninsightful, and corny it is. The cheerleader sequence exists simply to have a convenient scene for the father to have his first child-molestation fantasy, a-blazin' with that damn ROSE PETAL shit.
DO YOU GUYS GET THE SYBOLISM? THE BEAUTY OF A ROSE, SYMBOLIC OF LUST. I don't think there's a single man in America who'd ever have a child molestation fantasy involving a girl covered in rose-petals. Still, they were there a-plenty. God, were they ever there. Did you happen to forget about them? Don't worry, we are treated to THREE MORE GREAT SCENES showing her naked body covered with rose petals galore!
Oh, and don't worry, gang. We, of course, see her unobstructed, roseless breasts by the end of the movie! American Beauty wouldn't let us enjoy a movie without naked breasts. Where would the meaning be without them? And, yeah, we see the goth girl's naked breasts, too. And, as an added bonus, for no justified reason whatsoever. I guess they're just thinking: she's got nice breasts! She's in a movie! Why not?
The goth girl's (Thora Birch) casting was particularly amusing because she's actually quite attractive. It's almost as if the casting agent, director, and producer uniformly decided to entirely deny the point of her character–a slightly-ugly freak of some sort. Or, more retarded, maybe they were trying to be sneaky: "she's actually attractive, so when we represent her as having a bad self-image, people will say BUT SHE'S NOT REALLY UGLY! SHE IS HOT!! MAYBE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE HOT THAT THINK THEY ARE UGLY!!" Which is true, of course, but it really takes away from any sort of potentially richer meaning. If they had cast a conventionally 'ugly' character, like someone somewhat overweight–or ugly–or even PLAIN looking, hey! There would've been much more of a point to her character. But, since she was hot, she just looked like an idiot. She fit in well.
Her boyfriend is a kooky nut who manages to find "BEAUTY" in almost EVERY GOSH DARN THING (especially his conventionally attractive goth girlfriend with large breasts), you know. I considered walking out of the movie during that embarassing scene with the video-taped dancing bag. That fucking scene made every film-geek in the world feel exactly like every computer-geek felt after watching You've Got Mail: ridiculous, cliche, and entirely misrepresented. I doubt mockery was the intention sassy-Brit director Sam Mendes was going for with that scene, but that's exactly what it was.
Clearly this movie proves that British guys should direct any movies about American life. I mean, hey, just look at how he directed BEST ACTOR OF THE YEAR, can-do-no-wrong Kevin Spacey in this role: badly. Seriously. While his zombie-like efforts were initially justified because of the "depressed" nature of the character from the beginning, we (well, I guess just me? I really hope not) soon see this schtick never ends. While some may like Spacey's walk-through-the-movie-am-I-even-awake? style, this is not BEST ACTOR material, regardless of how arbitrary and empty the oscars actually are (other than for the actor's paycheck).
While Kevin Spacey's performance was toned down to near-boredom, every other character was completely over-dramatized, and, quite frankly, pathetic. Especially his wife, who is hysterically animated like a cartoon for virtually the entire movie. Perhaps that's JUST HOW SHE WAS, man, but every character was basically acting out a soap-opera level melodrama, but perhaps that's JUST HOW THEY ALL WERE, man. You can't blame them, really, since they were basically living in a Jerry Springer level of reality. Maybe that's Sam Mendes's world, who knows?
Honestly: this melodramatic, bad acting wouldn't have bothered me nearly as much if the director/screenwriter/whatever had chosen to be even somewhat consistent in the overall tone. Perhaps it's the fact that it's his first movie, and he has a stage director background… so maybe this sort of ambiguity between drama and comedy flies better in that medium. Here, it's just juvenile. The drama was insincere, empty, and pathetic: remember when the mother finds her husband dead and starts crying in the closet? I couldn't tell if I was supposed to be crying or laughing–and I wasn't doing either. The excessive "humor" of the movie took away from anything that might've struck me as heavy. Not even the token "sad music" could bring me to feel bad when Kevin Spacey was MURDERED. I was actually hoping that I could have some time in the film where Kevin Spacey wasn't on screen, but alas, no luck. The movie was over.
In short, the BIG ISSUES that this movie touches on with its little bitty fingers (and then quickly runs away from) needed to have a fundamental choice made: is this a satire or a drama? Now, I hate generic Hollywood classifications as much as the next guy, so we could ask Why Can't A Movie Be Both? Good question: it most certainly can. Perhaps for some people this ambiguity was kind of 'existential' and it gave them a philosophical boner–but for me (someone who enjoys deviation from conventional storytelling), this attempt at "GREAT MEANING" was entirely ruined by it; The drama made the comedy trite, and the comedy made the drama insincere.
Perhaps screenwriter Alan Ball should watch some surrealist films, learn something about subtlety, and try again. Until he does, all his movies are going to resemble bad versions of '80s angst favorite John Hughs movies–and that's exactly what American Beauty is–"wacky situations" about angsty teens and ineffectual parents.
After discussing with friends, I've determined the main focus of why people "like" this movie has little to do with the content and much more to do with themes. Touting lines like "In this world full of awful Hollywood movies, here's one that actually tried to be different!" is basically an admission that the movie sucked, but they can't think of anything better. Which is really a shame, but quite representative of the relentless slop that we're fed.
Movies like this remind me of the ol' story of The Emperor's New Clothes, except The Emperor is also a mentally retarded child. And in American Beauty, he's just buck naked and flailing about. Here's the punch line: no matter what clothes The Emperor is wearing, he is still an idiot, and it's our obligation to let him know. Otherwise we're just not being honest.
No one read the shmoil's post, right? Okay, moving on. I actually just rewatched this myself and I have to agree with Nick that while there were some cringe-worthy 'deep scenes', this movie is entertaining as hell. Especially when Kevin Spacey is on screen. He owns this movie. Chris Cooper is an amazing actor, so any scene he is in is worth watching, even if nothing happens, but I was bored whenever it was just focused on the teens. That said, I've been reading this site rip on this movie for years now (just like the Goonies) and the truth is, the guys here want this movie to be Overrated so they can feel justified in hating it (in 1999, they were the outsiders who really 'got it'… in 2008 they're the mainstream who really don't get it). I don't know if this movie deserved the Best Picture Award, but I agree with the post earlier, I'm not sure who else of that group did deserve it. Regardless, this movie is entirely rewatchable if for Spacey alone and the anti-hype machine needs to catch up. This movie is almost a decade past being overrated (the movie isn't overrated just because some random girl says it's her favorite movie; if so, then Clueless is overrated).
Somebody's bored at work. Damn.
You know, I agree that the film is at odds wit itself, and to me, that was the source of the humanity you claim was so forced. We're not seeing satire, in my opinion – we're seeing the life of a man, through his eyes, moments after he died. Any meaning we're offered is his meaning, and he's a dumb schmuck like the rest of us. He contradicts himself, he misunderstands things, he misses opportunities, and then gets his head blown off, and in the end, it's beautiful, graceful, and worthy of recognition. That, to me, was the point.
I've stopped expecting the people of the world to make sense all the time – people like Lester least of all. What I expect from them is growth, and Lester's growth is profound indeed. It's the untold chapter of Willy Loman's life, and his ultimate redemption.
Completely agree with Jeremy and Justin. Nick seems to be the guy saying " Oh well its still ok. " hardly. The Insider is the best film of 1999 and continues to resonate even today. Also Spacey not only unjustly won Best Actor over Russell Crowe (who the academy saved the trophy for his next nomination Gladiator) but also Denzel Washington (Whose work in The Hurricane is superior to Spacey oh and his makeup trophy or the oh shit i'm sorry we didn't give it to you then but damn you were a terrible bastard in Training Day here you go!). That justifies its place in infamy The Insider, Michael Mann, Russell Crowe and if not Russell Denzel were all robbed in 1999 by this American Ugly garbage. Bening's performance is a travesty. Better suburbian WASP tale? Try Ordinary People with Timothy Hutton and Donald Sutherland.
"American Beauty" is the only film of the 90's to win Best Picture and deserve it. And shmoil, no one is gonna read all of that. I'm sure you have a point but we just don't have the time.
so are you saying Schindler's List did not deserve best picture moviemenace?
Ahhh, the Gen.-X Ordinary People. A clean kill. Well-written take down, Mr. Smith brings his A-game as usual,(the Sowing the Seeds of Love vs Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane comment-brilliant!!) and Justin Waddell suprises with the best thing I've ever seen him write. Bravo. (On the MB, someone joked about the idea of a John Waters' American Beauty. Hilarious!)
I thought about the first 15 minutes of American Beauty were pretty good, a little funny, a little dark, but pretty much the rest of the movie is a jumbled mess.
@ #12 – Thanks for the measured reply Justin. I can imagine Kevin fucking Mena if it was an episode of 6 Feet as that show was fueled by desolate and unrewarding sexual encounters, but in Beauty him NOT fucking Mena served to underline that the lifetime of regrets that were consuming him were all bullshit illusions, at least that's what I read in it (I pretty much thought that was the irony of the title). It was his wake up call and all that weight of immature regret just lifted off him in that brilliant moment. I want to watch it again to check out that difference in tone between Spacey and Wife though, but maybe as another poster suggests, that was Spacey's subjective view of her – a kind of empty cartoon of a woman until he shook his shit out? Re: Oscar-worthiness – Spacey winning was similar to the delayed wins of Crowe and Washington – he'd already made his big cultural splash with Usual Suspects and Seven, so I was thinking he won because of those as much as this one.
I wish more big studios would release offbeat flicks like this. I found it strangely moving. There are so many other turds out there to pick on.
ALRIGHT CHUD, I HAVE AN IDEA FOR YOUR NEXT LIST: MOVIES THAT ARE OK TO LIKE.
But seriously, for all this venom and harsh critisism (although it the Fight Club bit was refreshing), these movies are better than the usual garbage hollywood churns out.
At a time when Alvin and the Chipmunks grosses 200 mil at the box office and torture porn movies are about to get their own category at the academy awards, I can't see how critisizing ambitious but flawed movies is constructive.
I agree that it's strangely moving, as well as being darkly funny. The performances are great. It just feels like a pulled punch, with false insight. And almost ten years after, the very definition of (not overrated ) overblown.
It was an overrated movie. Was. Now it's become so cliche to bash on it that it's actually underrated. It's a very good movie, just not Oscar worthy.
This movie makes me cry every time I watch it. "And Janie and Janie" is a line that just fills me with the ineffable. I was 11 when It came out and consequently saw it without any of the hype. I watched it 3 times in a row.
This is a fantastic movie. I think it was created out of something genuine and sincere, unlike 99% of all other Hollywood output. Oh and what Lester is referring to in the last line of the film is about perspective; recognizing otherwise forgettable moments in life and appreciating them. I guess the CHUD staff don't get too many…
Seriously though, why the need to piss over American Beauty? Or Punch Drunk Love for that matter? As a poster wrote above, why the hate for something that, at the very least, tries to be ambitious??? Save your energy and beat down some TRULY over-rated movies that never get taken to task, like Black Hawk Down or The Prestige…
When it comes to films that DIDN'T deserve Best Picture Oscars, why is this film always mentioned before something like "Chicago"? Seriously, that one I didn't get. It's 15 minutes of story stretched out into 2 hours. At least when "Crash" took it a couple of years ago, that seemed to take some of the heat off of "American Beauty" for a while.
It appears I overrated CHUD after reading this article. Masterpieces as American Beauty cannot be overrated.
I recalled seeing this because Thora Birch bared her huge twins….
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