UPDATE: I’m not upset in the least that I’m a part of a group of folks Harry Knowles referred to today as jackasses. In fact, not only am I not upset, but I’m honored. I feel like I’ve turned a corner today. That I can die happy. Well, maybe not completely happy. I am a little disappointed he didn’t mention me by name. Oh well, let’s move on.
Naturally, Ernie Cline wasn’t too happy that I implied his recently-purchased screenplay Thundercade was plagiarized from other works, such as The King of Kong. And he sent us a strongly-worded e-mail expressing his displeasure. And so I had a brief chat him a couple hours ago to sort this shit out. It turns out he was more concerned than angry, and he was actually pretty cool about it.
As it happens, Cline wrote the treatment and registered it with the WGA back in 2006, well before The King of Kong saw the light of day. He also shared with me off the record some story details that create a premise that’s much more zany and, dare I say, interesting than the plot summary that was included in the press release, which, I might add, doesn’t really reveal what’s really going on.
My conclusion here is that while there are still some elements that clearly draw some inspiration from The Wizard, the story contains enough original ideas to stand on its own. Whether or not it ends up being good is something else, but I don’t doubt most of you reading this have already made up your minds about that.
ORIGINAL TEXT: While the folks who truly believe being a nerd might allow them to have sex with Kristen Bell* haven’t forgotten about Fanboys, Ernie Cline, the film’s co-writer, is moving on. After toiling with that film for over 10 years**, he’s probably come to the realization that the shit just ain’t worth it.
So what he has done is write an ingeniously original screenplay that is deceptively named Thundercade. Rather than being about or even containing a procession of people traveling via thunder, as the title immediately suggests, it focuses on a mid-thirties nerd, which is probably a term that describes Cline himself.
What does that mid-thirties nerd do? Well, as is a common theme in Cline’s dense filmography, he goes on a quest with his best buds. For what are they questing? He must reclaim a record he set on a classic video game (oooohhhh, so that’s what the title is all about) in the ’80s after what the Hollywood Reporter calls a “young punk” breaks it. Why does he still care? Because he’s a nerd suffering a midlife crisis.
So in order to reclaim the record, our heroic nerd and his companions must travel to a faraway land to “win the world’s ultimate gaming championship, Thundercade.” I can buy that a competition involving Thundercade could be a major event.
Hold on a second; someone’s trying to tell me something.
[wait five minutes]
I’ve just been told that the plot of this film is very similar to that of a documentary called The Kong King. I’ve never heard of that film, but I do know that Cline certainly did not steal Thundercade’s plot from it. Indeed, the Hollywood Reporter also states this:
Cline, a self-proclaimed lifelong video game addict, said he was inspired to write the screenplay by his nephew, who would trash talk him while the two played Xbox games.
“I fell in love with the idea of pitting older ‘classic arcade era’ gamers from the ’80s against teenagers — the Atari 2600 generation vs. the Xbox 360 generation,” Cline said.
With that evidence in hand, I think we can clearly nip the plagiarism debate in the bud before it gets going.
Lakeshore Entertainment has picked up the script, and they’re going to fast track it into production. I, for one, can’t wait to see it. Who’s with me?
*At the end of Fanboys, Kristen Bell’s character ends up with one of the nerds. If you’re pissed about the spoiler, fuck you.
**Cline sent the script to Harry Knowles in 1998.





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You probably haven't heard of "a documentary call the Kong King" because it's a documentary called The King of Kong. And "Fanboys Writers Builds"? Come on, guy. I'm rooting for you, but you're not making it easy.
The Kong King. Jesus….
Phil, you are a fucking moron.
"The Kong King" = Joke, R-tards. He's like, pretending y'know, that like, he doesn't know that this film is like totally an obvious fuckin' steal from a well known documentary. It's like saying something is ripping off Star Wars and saying "Someone told me this is extremely similar to some old 70s movie called, uh, Space Wars?" Anyway: "Rather than being about or even containing a procession of people traveling via thunder" is an awesome line. The title didn't suggest that to me at all and I'm the poorer for it.
In breaking news, poster SciCurious is in fact CHUD writer Phil Owen. More on this story as it develops.
"Hold on a second; someone’s trying to tell me something."…..(What happened during those five minutes?)…. Let me out of this dungeon you hideous man-child!! I don't want to play video games with my feet anymore!! You win!! I want to go home. Give me back my copy of the King of Kong and take these chains off of me!! I don't look like Jessica Lange, I am a 10 year old boy. It's Donkey Kong, not King Kong you douche! Yes, it is hard to talk when you have me gagged with your Dad's socks. Finish your damn you Thundercade story and then let me go. I'm hungry. This movie sounds more like The Wizard with Fred Savage than King of Kong!!! Some nerd you are!! These chains hurt!!! not the sock again!! ARRRHHGDFDUTUT!!!……. "I’ve just been told that the plot of this film is very similar"……..
If Phil and SciCurious were to be in the same room at the same time, would life as we know it cease?
It'd be nice if for once these talkback comments actually had something to do with the content of the story (which I think is kind of the point) and less to do with either riding the nuts of the author or criticizing every little piece of grammar. That said, I think there's quite a bit of sarcasm that you dipshits failed to see on your first read, assuming you actually read the whole thing.
As for the content of the story – the concept sounds like something a 35 year old virgin would concoct while living in his mother's basement surrounded by Star Wars action figures, piles of comic books, the full run of the Highlander tv series, and a ColecoVision system (think The Monarch's minion #24 (I think that's his number, y'know, the fat one) who has the closet full of this stype of stuff). Now, I'm a nerd and all, but this sounds too pathetic for even me to watch.
This article was perhaps a bit too arch for its own good.
I hated fucking Fanboys, so I hate Ernie Cline. The fact that a script that lamentably amateur, the high point of which were jokes revealing that SW fans and Trek fans secretely hate each other (ouch) and a cameo by Harry Knowles as a robed Jedi-type mentor (fuck you, Ernie) has been floating around for THAT FUCKING LONG makes me want to commit hate crimes.
Wasn't this also the plot to the episode of Seinfeld where George wants to keep the Frogger machine?
I wish you weren't as heavy as Devin.
Jesus, Phil, you just don't even care if anybody likes you anymore huh?
Phil Owen: I'm not your guy, friend!__________________________________________________________________________fact checker: Well, I'm not your friend, guy!
I wonder when trav will stop trying to police the talkbacks. About Owen: If someone's a moron or writes something stupid, it deserves pointing out. When he stops being untalented, unfunny, and mega-creepy, we'll stop. And P, you don't get to make fun of fanboys. For fuck's sake, look at yourself in the mirror. In conclusion, fire this dickhead!
The King of Kong is one of the best films of 2007 and one of the best documentaries ever made. Watch it.
About Jesus Christ Superstar: You're bitching, moaning, and spewing vitriol about the quality of writing on a piece about a "Fanboys" writer writing another nerd comedy… on a movie website. Do you realize the extent to which that makes you a loser? You don't get to make fun of Phil Owen. For fuck's sake, look at your post. In conclusion, I'm not your guy, Buddy.
How is someone a loser for criticizing Phil Owen? I didn't know anti-intellectualism was in.
Phil Owen was being so…aggressive. And I thought he was always the nice guy. You know..the new Dave Davis!!!
Being a nerd doesn't allow me to have sex with Kristen Bell? I refuse to believe this.
Being a nerd almost allowed me to have sex with Kirsten Dunst. Almost.
Spiderman, awaaaaaaaay!
Phil's useless articles are the journalistic equivalent of Peter Griffin's ramblings:
"Well, I'm getting something really special, too. And by special, I don't mean special like that Kleinerman boy down the street. More special like… like Special K, the cereal. Hey, what did they do with the regular K? And for that matter, whatever happened to Kaye Ballard? You know, if you said 'mallard' and you had a cold, it would sound like 'Ballard'."
If I have to wade through that shit to find actual news, then I'm probably going to heap scorn on him.
This whole anti-phil shit is so unbelievably retarded. Who. The. Fuck. Cares?
Ever heard of Fahrenheit 1984? Cuz I haven't.
It's important to maintain journalistic standards. I'm not sure if Owen is just a jokester, but this is irrelevant -we read chud and many other sites for information first, entertainment value second. So if this is just Owen's idea of being funny, it's onanistic and misguided.
fuck you phil. go read Harry's reply on AICN.
Phil, I think you can take further comfort in the fact that Harry didn't get your Kong King joke. Sure, it wasn't particularly funny, but the fact that it's flied over so many people's heads more than makes up for that.
Phil, Harry Knowles just called you a "fucking hack writer" over in the talkback for his article. The irony is even richer than his fat-clogged diabetic arteries.
Uninteresting subject.
My only input is that shit wouldn't melt in Harry Knowles' mouth. He like to think he is down with the homies but I suspect he is more at home with the downies. Fat ginger fuck.
Harry is a moron who wouldn't last 30 seconds writing for CHUD.
I think I need to find a new movie news site
Damn 'em all Phil. You're one funny motherfucker in my book. And being put down by Harry 'I just absolutely LOOVE whatever movie we're talking about and it's the BEST in the genre and I grew up on that shit since I've watched it a million times' Knowles just proves me right.
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