I’m not sure that I am happy to report this, but it appears Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and Kirsten Dunst are returning to the Spider-Man franchise. Is it to make amends for the poorly received [critically, not financially] Spider-Man 3 and end on a good note, is it money, or do they just love making time-intensive costly movies about CGI fellows ejaculating webs onto strangers?
Honestly… I think it has to be kinda neat to have the keys to kingdom in one of the most robust franchises in history, so I’ll side with good intentions on the still wonderful Sam Raimi’s part.
That said, I’d much rather see the man stretching in new directions and to many readers’ surprise, ones that DO NOT include Spider-Man or Bruce Campbell.
With that in mind, news came out today that the principal [though Dunst is wholly expendable] team is back and they’re bringing Pulizter Prize winning David Lindsay-Abaire (Rabbit Hole) on board to rewrite the next one.
On one hand, I think a Grit delivery route is about as important as a Pulitzer in the Spidey pantheon and another is that the stakes have been raised in the wake of The Dark Knight and Iron Man [whether you agree with me or not]. Maybe it’s a good call, because the old standard of “Go To” guys (Koepp, Vanderbilt, Etc.) has gotten boring as hell.
This is it for Spider-Man. If they pull it off, the franchise will have legs that’ll make Tina Turner jealous. If not, consider it a thankful bullet in the head of a series facing serious bloat.
I don’t see the downside in this.





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If it's as much of a fuck-up as Spidey 3 was, it's best if they just leave it alone.
Or reboot it, that seems to work.
I honestly would like a new director and new cast…3 left a bad taste in my mouth for sure, but I think its time for a fresh take. Thats why there was (still is) so many different spiderman comics. Cant the next series be like "Spectactular" spiderman compared to the pasts "Amazing" spiderman? ya know?
okay, who dared devin to wear the spidey outfit
It's too late for a Lizard story. What would it contribute besides another "Not-so-bad guy is turned into a villian by a scientific experiment?" Kraven's Last Hunt is too depressing for this sunny-side, suck-dick franchise. If they can turn Venom into a joke I'm afraid what will happen if they use already-campy characters like Vulture or Mysterio (kill me). I wonder if Mary jane will get kidnapped again (4th time)?
There's only one way this can be done well. CLONES. We need to clone saga this bitch.
Downside: two more awful movies and another decade or more to wait for a good Spider-man series.
Spidy 2 is a great movie. Raimi had Venom pushed on him. While many us love Venom, Raimi didn't. So now Raimi has leverage to say I told you say and do what he wants without moving over to allow extraneous villains in the car. Conditions are ripe for another Spidy 2 level movie.
Never underestimate the importance of Grit magazine. Grit magazine made me a man! As for Spidey, I don't know what to think of this news. Loved the first 2 but the 3rd was hampered by some really bad shit. It wasn't Ghost-Rider bad, but that whole dance routine especially was like Raimi pissing on my eyeballs for 15 minutes and laughing hysterically about it. A true Grit reader doesn't stand for that shit. We're real men.
I agree with bpvalentine. Spidey 2 should at least give Raimi the benefit of a doubt, with an understanding that the studio got greedy on 3 and wanted bigger.
I don't agree that Kraven's Last Hunt is too dark. It's a good dark, and could still be done with humor (for the first 2 acts) before taking the darker twist at the end. That said, it'll never happen. If they truly are going to continue in the universe they have established, the Lizard seems obvious (and possibly amazing if they throw the right money to the graphics department) and possibly Hobgoblin as the main (bad) villain. I know, 2 villains can be bloated, but as long as they keep to just 2 and not a 3rd unnecessary one, it can be done without it being a complete mess.
I feel sorry for Devin. He put that suit on thinking he'l get women.
I really hated the 3 movies but… am I the only one who really want to see Carnage killing a shitload of people?
You have to ask yourself why is a pulitzer prize winner writing a spiderman movie? it would be like George Lucas writing another Godfather movie
This kicks ass. I'm so happy about this news I didn't even notice the snark in the article. Hopefully we get Electro, Shocker, Hydro Man, Hobgoblin, Lizard, Black Cat, Mysterio, hell throw the whole sinister six in this one.. go for broke.
Vanderbilt is suddenly a "standard 'go to' guy"? Wasn't he only recently brought into the franchise?
@ #12 – The Metric Fuck-ton of Money? Though I think a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer might do a better job of writing a Spiderman movie than George Lucas would a Godfather movie. It's not quite the oil and water match up you imagine when the quality factor is running downhill so to speak.
What would a Pulitzer Prize-winning author bring to Spider-Man?
How about Michael Chabon and SPIDER-MAN 2?
Case closed.
I'd love to have seen the Sandman/Vulture conbo that Raimi allegedly had for Spidey 3, especially if Larry David had been cast as Vulture. Venom just felt too shoe horned in to an existing plot. Having said that I did like Spidey 3 until the 'fuck lets cut corners, here's the scene when Sandman meets Venom, and here's handy exposition reporter' to cut corners
Personally, I don't care whether Raimi stretches himself further. If he wants to keep making shitty Spiderman movies, then power to him. There's enough diverse talent out there already that I don't need to worry myself about him like I have some vested interest in Sam Raimi.
I don't think the tragic villain motif is done out of laziness; it's because a lot of spidey villains do have a tragic element to them. Name one A-list spidey villian that doesn't.
They reflect Peter's own tragedy; but they've rejected responsibility instead of accepting it.
Spiderman 2 is one seriously over-rated movie. Half the nit picking leveled at the third one can be applied in one form or another at the 2nd movie. Raimi's spiderman films are all average at best. Time for a new take and new cast. Fuck toby off asap. His Down syndrome spiderman got old about an hour into the first film.
Spidey 2 is overrated, read some Spidey comics(which i read a bunch of recently) and I realized just how off the mark they are. The train fight is however one of the best action sequences ever. I'll give it that. But they still haven't gotten the character of spidey right.
I love how Nick states his opinions as facts, with the caveat "whether you agree with me or not", as if he's privy to some Hollywood Da Vinci Code-like information. I'm with Oirectine: another Spider-Man film allows another great Spider-Man villian to be realized on film, and allows Raimi another chance to deliver a knock-out blow of a flick (especially after 3, which I admit was bloated and a step down from 1 & 2).
I'm of the opinion that Sam Raimi is not quite the auteur some would claim, as his craftsmanship in writing has not been up to par with his directing since the early 90s. Sure he's written a whole lot less than he directed, but I believe it takes a rare breed to make a 300 million dollar product with so many different voices breathing down his neck, and have writing and directing credit. With that said, while Michael Chabon has a clean slate, this Abaire fellow was responsible for the screenplay, and that lessens my confidence.
hey does anybody remeber when they used to read comics? i guess not since you are just bringing down a comic from the 60s and 70s , so instead of criticing something good,just read the comics and remember these kind of movies are made for kids and teens, not for jackasses.
One villian, clue Aunt May in on Peter's secret, no Gwen Stacy, put a bow on Peter and Mary Jane and call it a day.
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