Last night’s premiere of The Killer Inside Me at Sundance will probably be one of those screenings that goes down in the dusty halls of history. At the Q&A after the movie, an adaptation of Jim Thompson’s hands-down classic novel, a woman stood up and chewed out director Michael Winterbottom for making the movie and Sundance for programming it. Her problem: the extreme violence visited upon women in the film.
And so the buzz begins! The story today is not about the film as a whole but about a scene where Casey Affleck’s character of Lou Ford savagely beats Jessica Alba’s prostitute character into a coma. It’s a rough scene, sure. And the movie has other instances of violence against women that are rough as well. In one scene a woman pisses herself after a savage beating that leaves her windpipe crushed. It’s ugly. It’s unpleasant. It’s hard to watch.
It’s the fucking point.
While I wasn’t as wild about Winterbottom’s film as I hoped to be* (I am a big fan of Winterbottom as well as the original novel), the fact that the scenes of violence left people so shaken (a woman behind me at the screening this morning kept mumbling ‘Jesus Fucking Christ’ during the beating scenes) means the film succeeds. Lou Ford is an unrepentant sociopath, possibly the scariest in literature, and what he is does is horrible and evil and cruel. You’re not supposed to be excited or thrilled by this violence.
But this is still the debate that rages every time a movie like this is made. It’s like people can’t watch this stuff without realizing that the violence isn’t meant to thrill or to titillate but to horrify and assault the audience. And it’s cool if you don’t like that – you simply shouldn’t see movies that seek to assault the audience. I don’t think that this film – based on a novel from 1952! – is hiding the fact that it’s a toughie. It’s not a sweet story. The Killer Inside Me is one of Thompson’s most famous works, and its’ well-known as a truly disturbing story told from the sociopath’s point of view. Why would anyone expect anything different from the film?
While the woman’s outburst at the Q&A indicates how successful Winterbottom is with this scene,
a review from Movieline puts a QED at the end of that thesis.
After making love and discussing their plans to reconvene a few weeks down the line, Lou pulls on a pair of black gloves, then begins to punch Alba in the face, at full force, repeatedly. The camera does not turn away, and as he takes a good dozen shots at her head, her features begin to distort at each impact with his closed fist.
The camera does turn away, and most of the punches are shot from a worm’s eye view in a way that has Affleck punching into the bottom right hand corner of the screen. There are some punches that we see brutally connect with Alba’s face, but the very long beating scene is not as explicit as the viewer thinks it is. It’s like Psycho‘s shower scene (in concept, not quality) – the way it is shot and edited makes it feel much more graphic than it really is.
The future of the movie remains up in the air. No one has bought it, and I suspect that it might need trims just to keep it humming as well as to appease the MPAA. Will the scene make it uncut into the final version of the movie? And if so, will that angry woman’s reaction be repeated on blogs and TV shows and newspapers across the country? The film will surely raise a ruckus about its perceived misogyny, but I think we could also be in for yet another boring violence in movies debate. It’s been a while since the last one.
* and neither, apparently, are Jessica Alba or Casey Affleck. I overheard two folks at Sundance HQ saying Affleck had called the movie ‘terrible,’ while reports are that Alba walked out of the premiere last night.
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Could you possibly, I don't know, tell us what the lady specifically said in her outburst and the director's response?
..and what did YOU think of the movie..?
Surely Alba's complete lack of acting ability was enough to lessen the realism and effectiveness of the scene? Unless Casey Affleck really beat her, in which case, sign me up.
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I am a unabashed fan of Devin's footnotes. I am particularly tickled that the be-asterisked entry in this editorial seems to lack any self-awareness: "reports are that Alba walked out of the premiere last night." I have not seen this film and am no Winterbotom-phile. That said, to assert that Jessica Alba's hasty exit from a screening implies something — ANYfuckingthing — about the merits of the film at hand begs scrutiny. After all, did the actress make a beeline to the door at the premiere of Fantastic Four? (How about that other film that spurred a nuanced debate about violence in film, Michael Henneke's "Fantastic Four 2"?). I think we should remain open to other possibilities (She left at the behest of the Voice of her death mother's Wardrobe?), without prejudicing any potential audience?
I'm so sick of the cliched violence-against-women meme. The even passed a law specifically addressed to violence against women last year, iirc. Like violence against men (which is the vast majority of violence, men vs. men) is okay or not worthy of comment. Like a man would ever stand up in a theater and complain that a movie showed too much violence against men. But that's why women are women, to whine. They want equality except when they don't.
A film about a guy that beats women into comas. No creature more weak on the planet. Wastes of space like this don't deserve the energy required to justify themselves in any format. You're not tough, special or interesting.. you're lucky to not have been caught, period. This sounds like a dogpile of a movie and novel, a paycheck/mistake for alba, and more bullshit to keep the public paranoid about their neighbors..
I think I'll pass. After August Underground, I don't really need to see any more brutal movies about intense realistic violence.
Pretty soon the only acceptable target of violence in movies will straight white males. Thanks liberals.
Can't you just go back to bashing Avatar?
Interesting about the reviewer remembering a completely different scene to what is actually there (a complete failure in performing his job). I guess people prefer their Pimp/Prostitute movies to be a mix of Pretty Woman and Dr Detroit…
1) it's a work of fiction.
2) sadly, there are millions of morons in this world who don't know the difference regardless of the level of the individual's education.
3) you want brutal, realistic violence against women, watch "Irreversible"
Unfortunately, its pretty restimulating for women, especially rape victims, to see stuff like that. It doesn't mean movies like that shouldn't be made, just respect it…unlike dick face up above who has the nerve to compare how our society treats men compared to women. How you can even honestly argue that we don't still live in a very patriarchal society where women are still objectified must mean you don't get out much.
Agree with 13. Anyone who thinks women have anything near equality with men in this world is a fucking moron.
I'm getting little tired of the "who gets treated the worst on film shit"…
Instead of saying violence is fucked up all way round, everybody feels like they get they get the worst of it.
"Well, these people got messed up by these guys some time ago..so for them it's worse.These guys are in the minority so you can't talk about them, this one was raped so no movies about rape, those guy's are in the majority so it's ok, this kid is deformed so no more Jasin flicks…"
If the takes it's subject matter seriously and not for the sake of making a quick buck, who the fuck cares who get's the most violence?
If this was some cheap ass, Z grade, piece o shit like Maskhead…I would agree.
But shit like that has no lasting impact…
It's the real world violence you should be worried about.
Is it wrong that I want to see this now for someone savagely beating an "actress" who has ruined two movie properties for me? I do love Thompson, but this is icing.
Maybe if you're a rape victim you shouldn't watch movies featuring rape victims. If your kid has cancer maybe you should watch movies that trivialize cancer. Common sense people. Surely SOME of you have it.
once again, faraci jazzed by rape and woman beating, bored and disinterested in anything else
@11:
Reminds me of the people that Fincher has said chewed him out for showing a head in a box at the end of Se7en, one woman even arguing with him when he repeatedly told her (in truth) that there was no scene of Morgan Freeman staring at a severed head in a box.
Alba has had it coming for a long time.
For those who wonder why they have to show violence against women to prove someone is a merciless psychopath, suggest another way instead of whining, you fucking retards. The character is supposed to be unlikable. He's supposed to be hateful. And he's supposed to be a character who doesn't change over the course of the film from the sound of it. You're not supposed to want to have cookies and milk with him. Thus, if you are familiar with the subject matter and disapprove of it, don't bother to go see the fucking film. End of story.
Jessica Alba had that beating coming. Honestly, how does she still get work?!
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I agree. The same can be said about the main character from Man Bites Dog…a movie that makes a lot of people squirm but worth watching none the less…
To commenter #13, if women are so oppressed and objectified in modern America, how come the number of gainfully employed women actually rose above the men in 2009? There's more stay-at-home Dads these days than vice versa. Women's salaries since 2004 have slowly but surely started to match men's in the same fields. Not to mention the fact that in our overly politically correct society its taboo anymore to equate stupidity w/ femininity yet its perfectly socially acceptable for a woman to refer to a man as a "stupid male". The pendulum has done swung the other way. Sell that oppressed female bullshit to someone else, man.
Back on topic, I haven't seen this movie and I'm not a fan of Winterbottom's work so I probably won't. However, lets consider some European films which have far more shocking displays of violence towards women than "The Killer Inside Me" mostly likely does. Try "Inside", "Frontier(s)", or the author of commenter #12 suggested "Irreversible". Monica Bellucci's rape scene in that film is probably the more mortified I've ever been sitting in in a cinema, a truly wretched film I hope to never see again before my dying day. This won't even be as gut wrenching to watch as the scene in "True Romance" where Patricia Arquette gets beaten to a pulp by Gandolfini.
We won't have another "Violence in media debate" this year because it's not an election year.
Its a sad statement on our society when a film attempts to realistically portray violence it is immediately denounced, yet we can't get enough of films that glorify it.
And I don't feel bad for Alba. She is strictly a career driven actress. The only reason she took this role is to get some street cred so she could move on to bigger paydays. So she could take part in the endless photo ops that is the bastardized indie film festival of Sundance.
If she legitametly cared for this project, she could have at least read the book it was based on. She didn't storm out of that theatre because she was offended, she was embarassed, and rightfully so. I feel sorry for Winterbottom, he was left alone to stand up for the his film.
I guess my ultimate problem with this kind of movie lies in what purpose does it serve and what is it trying to achieve? A movie of unrelenting violence against women and the portrait of a completely condemnable person doesn't exactly sound like a great cinema experience, nor a particularly meaningful comment on anything at all. Why do people feel compelled to create vicious movies populated solely with realistic violence that serve no end except to underline how ugly it all is? That sounds like the basis for a hard-hitting (excuse the pun) 2 or 3 minute ad campaign, not a 2 hour misery-a-thon.
to #19: fincher is being a little coy when he tells that story because he does flashcut a few frames of Paltrows face right before Pitt shoots spacey. its a washed out beauty shot, no gore but her head fills the frame so its not surprising that people might feel like they saw it
@28: I get that, but he wasn't denying the subliminal tactics, he was talking about some woman who just kept going on about this gratuitous and gory shot of a severed head in a box that in no way is in the film.
http://www.zoost.net/view/1802/jessica-alba-killer-inside-me/
You're welcome
To #24: Oh fuck off. Been called a stupid male? Maybe it's because you are one. Pendulum has swung the other way? In what dream world is that? And equating femininity with stupidity is taboo because it's fucking sexist, just like equating masculinity with stupidity is. Seriously dude, thinking women have reached anywhere near equality with men just shows you up as irrational and misogynist.
Women are of course the more diminutive in stature. Violence is, therefore, particularly sadistic when visited upon them by males. However, why does accident of birth make, say me, a male, anymore deserving or justified a target? A ridiculous notion, just stupid… One more thing. How many times can people begin their posts, here and elsewhere, with some variation of, "I'm so tired of…"? What a big steaming pile of glib. I'm so tired of, "I'm so tired of…" 😉
What a steaming pile of shit.
Mike you are a total noob. Typical zombie of the P.C. status quo. You know nothing of women and their situation but you really think you do. Furthermore you know nothing about your own situation and the situation of other men. You're nothing bul a self-righteous little panzy.
I saw the beating Jessica Alba took. I thought it was more funny then anything else. It had no impact (other then on her face), it had little realism and it was just….. lame…
Anyone who would make an issue out of that weakass bullshit needs a beating herself, cause it's obvious she's just trying to make waves where there aren't any. That bitch is a self-righteous cunt just like Mike is.
LOL liked the 'watch Irreversible' Comment! it is true though, there are worse films than this by far! and i dont believe that any crime rate will go up from watching a violent scene. it is not there for the thrill, this, will happen to someone and has happened to people. if all this film does is open up another set of eyes, then its done its job i guess. you want violence? Watch Martyrs, a woman gets skinned alive and hung under heat lamps all in the name of Christ. thats violence
I realize this is a semi-old article, but I felt like commenting regardless.
First of all, I’m a woman, a liberal, and a rape-victim. Despite these three things, I am not offended by this sort of scene in any movie, and I do not just “whine because I’m a woman”. Thank you, however, to the person who made such a blatantly sexist assumption.
I have not seen this movie, I will admit, although it has nothing to do with violence against women. It simply sounds like a terrible movie.. should I be convinced otherwise I’d be glad to rent it, and you can bet I won’t immediately start parading the forums spouting feminist bullshit.
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