There was a line of thought that Avatar would create an environment in Hollywood where science fiction would be seen as something other than blast-em-ups. That this film would teach Hollywood that original stories can sell.
This line of thought comes from not really understanding Hollywood.
Here’s what Hollywood has taken from Avatar: 3D. That’s first and foremost. The next thing taken from Avatar: mocap. And that’s definitely what Roland Emmerich has learned, and it’s something he’ll apply to his adaptation of Isaac Asimov’s Foundation.
“The ‘Avatar’ technology applies to ‘Foundation,’ ” Emmerich said. “It has to be done all CG because I would not know how to shoot this thing in real.”
I don’t even begin to understand why CG would be needed in a faithful adaptation of the Foundation books, as all of the characters are human and most of the story is about people talking about stuff. Even the mutant character of The Mule just looks like a dude. The crux of Asimov’s stories are about huge sweeping changes that takes place in societies, and about the small moments that contribute to that change, but these moments rarely involve large scale battle or disaster and in fact the large scale battles and disasters usually take place offscreen. I’ve always kind of envisioned a Foundation adaptation in the form of a BBC miniseries, like I, Claudius.
Of course the finer points of Asimov’s work were going to be lost the moment that Emmerich was announced, but now we know that we can thrill to council meetings in 3D mocap. I can’t even imagine how radically different Robert Rodat’s script is going to be from the real books.
By the way, Emmerich has a very mercenary view of 3D, one that I believe most people in Hollywood share: “It’s not only the effect of 3-D, [‘Avatar’ has] just shown that if you do a movie in 3-D, you can ask for more money and that’s the trick.” He left out the fact that 3D hurts piracy, but higher ticket prices are a huge part of the appeal for the studios.





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I was really hoping that the whole Emmerich Foundation thing had fell through. This is going to make I, Robot look like Gone With the Wind
The last thing that Emmerich is known for is subtlety. Seems almost perverse that he would even consider adapting something like the Foundation books.
Wow. I can take or leave 3D, but what could possibly be motion captured for this story? It has about as many aliens as an episode of Murder, She Wrote and is one of the few Asimov stories that doesn't even revolve around robots.
"It has to be done all CG because I would not know how to shoot this thing in real"? Maybe you shouldn't be shooting it at all then, Roland.
Did he actually say that last part? oh the humanity..
What you fail to see is that if 3D movies get made by hacks like Emmerich and they make money, as it gets cheaper, it will allow better filmakers with more "artisitic" visions to make movies that are truly interesting and compelling. You are like a kid that wants his ice cream before he eats his vegetables and you cry in the corner until you fall asleep, failing to get anything but an empty stomach. Now take your blanky and get your ass to bed, or you'll be lucky if you get breakfast.
"I would not know how to shoot this thing in real."
Oh. My. Fucking. God. Then why the hell are you a *coughs* filmmaker?
Oh, so Avatar ruined the Foundation movie, but not the involvement of Emmerich? The guy's good at global catastrophe and blowin' stuff up real good (which I thought you liked in 2012, Devin), but sweeping social change? Let David Simon adapt and David Fincher direct.
Yeah it's avatars fault alright. Before that came along Hollywood never fucked anything up.
Comparing Foundation to I, Claudius is now my preferred way to explain what this project could have been.
Foundation doesn't lend itself to a movie in my mind. It's episodic nature would work best on TV as an extended mini-series, like the Dune mini-series', only not rubbish. Someone at someplace like HBO should have gotten their mitts on this first. I can imagine some exec going on about the comercial possibilities of a Foundation movie without ever having read it.
That guy needs to die.
I'm glad that Emmerich said "shoot in real" like it's some equally risky proposition.
Avatar isn't going to have any real effect of Foundation, like Devin isn't having any real effect on the failure of Avatar.
AVATAR isn't going to ruin FOUNDATION. ROLAND EMMERICH WILL!
You gotta love CHUD, a website stuck in a routine:
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Devin Bitching About Avatar
The best part about all this is ofc how a popcorn director like Cameron who hasent given us a single good movie has now RUINED THE ARTSY INDY GENIOUS DIRECTOR EMMERICH WHO GAVE US such classics as Godzilla and ID.
That really shows how much you HATE a movie, dosent it Devin? When you start bashing Cameron and Avatar against Emmerich
Next topic will be how Bay will lose his creative ways and top notch movies becuase Avatar will influence Bay (our generations Kubrick according to Devin).
Devin, I am fairly certain that this is all about Roland Emmerich being a crappy director who makes empty, soulless movies, and not a whole lot to do with 3D or Avatar. A great side effect of this is that it will probably be terrible, and they might not let Emmerich make more movies.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the Foundation series (I even have a signed copy of Prelude to Foundation), and would love to see justice done to the series, but I pretty much just said "Welp" when I heard the 2012 guy was going to direct. Someone else will probably remake it before I'm dead.
Jesus Christ, let up on Avatar already. It's been months. You didn't like it (which isn't a crime.) but other people did. Get the fuck over it, you annoying prick.
Jesus, did any of your people read the fucking article? Did you read the point being made or do you simply see Devins name on something and just pop in for the lulz? Fucking go away and die losers.
Avatar!
I have to agree with #17 try reading the article you slag happy assholes. Just find another site already if you hate devin so fucking much
Yup, should have been a miniseries. It would have even been relatively cheap to produce, leaving most of the budget to hire quality writers and actors. Allllll thoooooose loooongg conveeeersations would work in the right context, under the right creative guidance. However the studio chose to go with Roland Emmerich so I guess it's more disaster porn and banal melodrama. This thing was dead in the water as soon as old Rolly's name was announced. Shows you where the studio's head is at. And the truly sad thing is that he has earned the ability to ask for final cut at this point, and he could use it to throw down an epic adaptation if only he were not a blithering idiot. And of course he's going to try his hand at the soon to be irritating Avatar 3D phenom too, that's kind of a foregone conclusion. And I liked Avatar quite a bit. Hollywood, why do you hate smart science fiction?
I want to hear more from the crying-suicidal-tree-hugging Avatard fans . Keep fighting the good fight with your retarded war against Devin's logical opinion about an OVERRATED hokey cliched boring and laughable 3 hour Captain Planet cartoon …..NEWS FLASH!!!!! AVATAR SUCKED you know it sucks You know nobody cares about it anymore. Thanks to that ridiculous Best Picture nomination. The cliched completely unoriginal plot . The retard boring poorly written characterizations the vomit inducing dialog. Everybody know Avatar is a OVER-HYPED shitfest
I've long said that the only way Foundation could be successfully done is as a miniseries — preferably with Joe Straczynski in control. I have no objection to Emmerich as such, but he is in no way, shape or form the man for this job.
Foundation is about ideas, not explosions.
Holy cow, "I, Claudius"!! Definitely need to go back and watch that series, it's been forever! I honestly think that much of Asimov's work is unfilmable, simply because of the cerebral nature of the stories. If you remove all of the exposition or just do summary form, I think it loses so much. Just like with Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama, you would basically have to make 2 movies out of 3+ books, as there is so much back story and whatnot that would not make good cinema, you know?
Another cheap shot at AVATAR from Mr Devin "I gave Crystal Skull 6.5"Faraci.Wow I'm so glad Avatar made billions cos it must really cost you some sleep at night you wanker.
I support the right to bash Avatar and Roland Emmerich at any given opportunity.
Fuck all you fat fucks.
Asimov would throat punch this dong if he knew his stories would end up being cartooned so more dongs could make megadollars and Jamokes that think they're too stupid to read sci-fi could find interest in these disney-eyed characters.——–Hollywood, stick to kid shit like How to Train Your Dragon, where 3D is the actual glue and parents can enjoy their kids sense of wonder.. let drama and satire live on its own, where 3D cannot dumb it to pieces.
Still censoring comments I see. Interesting that dumb troll shit is left alone but any criticism that might ring true gets deleted almost instantly. Heads in the sand everyone!
Again, read the fucking article dickheads. The Avatar ride's over kids, time to head home from the theme park and either go back to school, go back to work or suicide in your mother's basement because you can't be a cartoony blue cat man and fuck a cartoony blue cat girl.
Newsflash, dickwad Devin – Avatar ain't gonna spoil Foundation – whichever studiohead allowed Emmerich to be crowned director ruined it! Yeesh, put on another record, you busted old fart.
How you must regret posting this video, which thanks to YouTube now exists a permanent testimony to your utter, utter drivel-spouting bullshit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7srQloTBtqc
"Not a game changer"? "Just an evolution, just a revolution"? "It looks okay"? "It'll do that well but not that well"? (I'm paraphrasing) Oh, the shrivelling embarrassment you must feel. Time to fess up, Faraci – Avatar rocked your world as much as it rocked everyone elses. You were WRONG.
You hypocrite jeff!!! Coming from someone who decries Zemeckis and his woeful adherence to mocap for the piles of shit he's made recently, it is not churlish to suggest your personal vendetta against Devin (who was right in that video!) is forcing a contradictory stance at the mere mention of 3D! The guy has a view, and judging by the visits to both this site, and this blog, it's a popular one, if only to fan the flames of discussion. Turn up with a valid point and you may find people will intelligently discuss it on merit, rather than debasing themselves with senseless attacks-for-attacks-sake. I wish 3D would shut up, I for one only want to see movies where 3D enhances the experience, not just 'oh let's do 3D cause otherwise no-one'll give a shit about our crappy movie' shoehorning. Get a life Jeff, or at least get laid, you may find that 'women' are permanently 3D, ooh the excitement* (*except Keira Knightley, who disappears when she turns sideways!)
Emmerich doing Asimov makes no sense.
Roland Emmerich. The only movie I want him to direct is a Battlefield Earth remake staring the entire cast of the original one. Why should Roland Emmerich make Battlefield Earth…because it felt like his type of movie and I want to see if it's possible that anyone could make it even worse. He can even make it in 3 D and cast Randy Quaid as the hero.
WE GET IT
your all butthurt cause you looked like a fool when avatar made 10 billions dollars, your fucking allowed to not like it, we all know it has its weaknesses, hell even James Cameron admits that
I used to think you were one of the most trustworthy reviewers, a good source for some discerning and honest criticism but now you just look like a fucking baby, why dont you go sit on the toilet while eating a boston cream pie and crying/masturbating instead of constantly finding new ways to shit on avatar, your embarrassing yourself
Devin Avatar won't ruin Foundation. Roland Emmerich will ruin Foundation.
Yes, yes, read the article dickwads… but to those who say that, READ THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE. "AVATAR is about to ruin the foundation movie." Not Emmerich, not the terrible script, but Avatar.
"I would not know how to shoot this thing in real."
I'm glad to see Emmerich's command of English grammar is about on par with Tommy Wiseau's.
Why am I glad?
I don't know, if I may say.
Maybe we both get to direct 3D Oscar movies, bigger than even Avatar someday, if I may say.
Master Kubrick for Foundation! Oh, Wait…
I'm not paying more money to see a movie just because it's in 3-D. Sorry Hollywood.
Emmerich could film Foundation employ the same animation technique used for Southpark and it would be no worse or better, because IT'S EMMERICH!! The guy is a douchnozzle! The main thing to remember here is no game is being changed.
See Magnifico's mountain of a nose – comin' atcha in 3D!!!
Yeah…. this will suck because of Avatar…. and not Emmerich. Totally not wearing your hate on your sleeve or anything.
I wonder if Emmerich thinks he needs CGI and motion capture for this because he thinks The Mule was literally a mule.
the funny thing is that I would rather see a stage version of the foundation series than a 3-d bastardization. Asimov's work was theoretical, the sci-fi setting was necessary because of the concepts he was exploring. Foundation as an action adventure is a head scrather. I don't think I will bother even seeing it.
Emmerich is a fucking simpleton who'd probably shat all over his pants if he tried to read the books. I think there was only one legit battle scene that was actually written in the trilogy.
I'd rather have a Foundation movie series by Emmerich than not at all. One cannot expect that a Hollywood movie on Foundation would not amp up the action, compared to the books who have very little. A sure way to make a movie flop is to do a a sci-fi "I Claudius" of the Foundation books. Avatar has a story, but it has also got plenty of action. That said I would be happier with someone akin to Peter Jackson to handle this complex story.
I agree with #45. Some books don't do well as movies, like Dune but if Hollywood can put out Lord of the Rings then they can do Foundation. Emmerich has done some great movies (2012, The Day After Tomorrow, Independence Day …) I feel he has a better chance than most of getting it right.
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