The modern 3D explosion is very unlike the previous iterations of the stereoscopic fad. It’s not the tech – everybody tries to tell you that the polarized lenses are a big leap up from the traditional red/blue lenses, but polarized 3D has been around since the 30s; Hitchcock’s Dial M For Murder was originally presented in polarized ‘Natural Vision’ 3D. The cameras capturing 3D are certainly better, and the ability to create a stereoscopic image that doesn’t nauseate half the audience has certainly been improved, but polarized 3D is pretty old.
What’s new – what’s different from the 50s and from the 80s, the last two great 3D fad periods – is that genre is king at the box office. Movies that would have once been considered B productions are now the most A list films imaginable; while that transition was happening in the 80s as Spielberg and Lucas rose to prominence in Hollywood, it’s finally complete now. Sure, the 50s fad saw some non-scifi/horror/action movies in 3D (check out Kiss Me Kate, a musical from 1953, for instance), but most of the films that benefit from the 3D process are the type that were traditionally low-budget and not terrible ‘important.’
Until now. The ascension of genre films to the top of the cultural ladder has created an intriguing scenario where the biggest and most important movies of the day are the perfect fodder for the gimmick of 3D. But with this has come another intriguing development – all of a sudden these movies are becoming premium experiences.
Premium experiences aren’t new to the movies; the first half of Hollywood’s first decade saw big blockbusters coming out in roadshow fashion – big gala events that had elevated ticket prices, assigned seats, commemorative programs. There was an intermission and roadshow movies played only once or at most twice a day. It was like a night at the theater, but at the movies. Today’s 3D movies are like roadshows in that they’re more expensive and are considered special events*, and they’re made for the exact same reason that Hollywood created the roadshow: they’re trying to win an audience back. In the last hurrah of the roadshow the movies were made in huge, unbelievably wide scope and presented in six channel stereo, all in an attempt to woo audiences away from their tiny, tinny square TVs. Today’s 3D films are trying to tear viewers away from their illegal torrents and get money from them before they legally buy the films for their excellent, state of the art home theaters.
So could 3D films meet the same fate as the roadshow picture? One of the things that killed the roadshow – the rise of the multiplex – is part of the success of 3D films in general. Movies like Avatar and Alice in Wonderland play in 3D on a remarkable number of screens, and with the premium price format – often 50% more than regular ticket prices – these films rake in the big bucks. But while the multiplex is usually considered the roadshow’s killer, I think there’s another thing that did the format in:
Bad movies.
Imagine booking expensive tickets, dressing up, buying a program, sitting down in your assigned seat… and then suffering through two and a half hours of the horrible Dr. Dolittle. Hollywood in the late 60s and early 70s had forgotten how to make great films, and the by-the-book epics and giant musicals weren’t just bad, they were terrible, and audiences stayed away in droves.
Since then Hollywood has learned not how to make better movies but how to properly sell bad movies, so I don’t think the quality of a film has that much of an impact when the studio knows how to market it, and is willing to spend the cash to do it right. After all, the new Alice in Wonderland is fairly atrocious, and it’s earning money in remarkable amounts.
There is one thing that’s wrong with Alice, though, that I think bodes ill for 3D: the 3D sucks. The film is riding the post-Avatar 3D high; many audiences had never seen 3D used as well as it was in Avatar, and they’ve now been converted. They’re willing to hit the theater and pay a premium price to see a 3D movie, hoping to replicate that experience. But Alice doesn’t. And I suspect (although no one I know has seen it in 3D) neither will Warner Bros’ hastily 3Dimensionalized Clash of the Titans, which opens in a few weeks.
Just as the release of many, many terrible movies did in the roadshow format, will the release of poorly done 3D films kill 3D? A look at planned 3D releases this year shows that a lot of the movies coming out in the format are the traditional 3D types – cartoons and lower budget genre pictures, but as with Clash of the Titans and MGM’s delayed Cabin in the Woods, studios are starting to retrofit their films into 3D to take advantage of the fad. It’s not too late for The A-Team or The Last Airbender or Predators to jump on the wagon. And I suspect that more and more films will take advantage of the post-production stereoscopic technique in the coming months.
Films that are shot in 3D always look better in 3D than films that are converted. And that’s the crux of the problem. Between a fairly weak release schedule (is anybody really willing to pay 50% extra to see Despicable Me?) and the fact that a post-3D process could be easier for filmmakers who aren’t quite ready to embrace the complexities of shooting in stereo, we could end up with a lot of films in 2010 and 2011 that are in 3D but are bad in 3D. And how long does it take for the audience to cool on the technique, especially if they’re paying extra money for it?
What could do 3D in is its own success. As everybody rushes to get on board we’re going to see more mediocre 3D and the shine will wear off. The extra ticket price, a boon to the industry right now, could become a boondoggle if it turns audiences away from expensive 3D films. And with home theaters catching up to the 3D ‘revolution,’ the expense of going to the movies to see a film in that format may no longer be a novelty. It took decades for regular people to be able to replicate a widescreen, surround sound experience in their homes; it may be only a few years before 3D home theaters are cheap enough for the average person (if they’re inclined to sit on their couch in stupid glasses – I think the fact that unlike sound and color, 3D requires extra hardware for the viewer is another thing that will limit the lifespan of the fad, but that’s another argument for another time), meaning that instead of spending 80 bucks to get the family to a movie as bad as Alice in Wonderland, they can do it at home for the price of a rental.
It’ll take a few years for the audience to lose interest in 3D, and the lifespan of the fad could be extended if Hollywood simply dedicates itself to doing 3D well and earning the extra ticket price**. But just as having movies wide and on the big screen stopped being enough to drag audiences in for roadshows, so will 3D lose its luster. And what then? Don’t laugh at the people who sit in those D-Box motion seats – we’re moving ever closer to a theatrical world where the line between amusement park ride and movie is blurred. And for a while everybody will be excited about the possibilities of the new Odorama or whatever is next.***
* they’re unlike roadshows in that roadshows were limited releases, and sometimes different cuts from the general release. A roadshow version of a movie could be very long and include an intermission, but it might be trimmed down for the general release. 3D films bow everywhere at once today.
** this will never, ever happen.
*** There’s one last aspect of 3D film distribution that doesn’t really fit into this piece but that should be addressed here: 3D is a way of stemming piracy, especially in the Russian and Chinese markets. I don’t know how well this will work – there will always have to be 2D screenings, one assumes – but even if 3D thwarts the pirates now, within a year or two these folks will have ways to get these movies on Bit Torrent and to sell them in Hong Kong shops. The reality is that any weapon Hollywood can come up with will be neutralized by these people – it’s an escalating war between two groups looking to protect their profits.





38 comments
I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again. I won't spend the extra bucks for 3D unless it was shot for 3D. That means that Tron: Legacy will be the next film I pay premium for the experience. No Clash, no Alice, no Toy Story. Unfortunately most of middle America isn't as discerning or knowledgeable so the studios won't get the message until they kill the 3D market.
Excellent Advocate, as usual. It reminded me of the piece you did about making the theatrical experience more enjoyable. I'd much rather pay extra money for assigned seating, some ushers, and an interesting showing rather than plunk down money to see some movie pop out at me. I'm all for directors and artists utilizing 3D if they want to and have an interesting vision for the format, but having studios just convert films into 3D to try and make some more bank is just asinine and disrespectful.
That all being said, there's no way I'm not going to see TRON LEGACY in IMAX 3D.
Keep tilting, Don Devin.
valid point in shooing in 3D to maximize shitty movies. if Alice wasn't sold right after Avatar in 2D…one would hope it wouldn't have been sold at all. i wouldn't write 3D off though. i agree that the extra hardware makes it problematic, and you glazed over the at home issue (4g's for a 3D TV?). but 3D isn't just a gimmick like vibrating seats. it's an aspect like sound and color and CGI that can further a movies immersion and excellence. however, just like sound, color and CGI, it's just being (re)discovered so Hollywood is cramming it up your asshole right here and now. i see 3D evolving and sticking around.
The part of 3-D that pisses me off the most is the fact that you can't just re-use the 3-D glasses you have already "purchased/rented/whatever they want to call it". They have a big box outside the 3-D showing for you to do the "right thing" and recycle, but you can't recycle by using the same 3-D glasses over and over, preferably with a box office discount. Oh wait, Hollywood caring about something other than making money? What a strange idea.
@#5, You're right. You're not recycling the glasses, you turning them in so you don't have them for next time when you come to the theater and pay regular price and walk into the next 3-D showing of the movie you just paid regular 2-D prices for.
(Great advocate, Devin.)
The question as to whether or not the Chud.com "talkback" fad rests mainly on one thing – page views. What should rightly be a fad from a quality perspective may ultimately prove to be a site institution – it's a cheap way to get an extra page view out of the idiot who wants to call Devin a fat sell out. So if you really wanna get back at the site's owners, folks, don't post a comment. You'll rob them of a tiny slice of their revenue. Vote with your mouse, and these talkbacks will die if there aren't enough extra page views to justify the humiliation of their existence.
@Fadback
Do you realise what you just did? Oh sweet sweet irony.
Why would you want to get rid of talkbacks, don't you like voicing your opinion from time to time? It's better than the Chud forums which are full of failed nobodies and community college dropouts in some pathetic circle-jerk that's pretending to be an exchange of ideas. Shame on Nick for trying to introduce this site to a larger audience when he can cater to the 5 or 6 uppity forum clowns…
Why do we want to get back at the site owners? Presumably we come to this site because we enjoy reading it, not because we like bitching and complaining about things (wow, that's obviously not true, but still). I'll agree that Devin's articles are hit or miss, but he made a lot of good points here (and usually does), and seriously, if it's so painful for you to be here I'd say just move along, cause what's the point?
Also, I like the fact that you posted a comment encouraging people not to post comments. That's neat.
I need the Comments, because Devin banned me on the boards for disagreeing with him. Then he went back on the boards and lied to everyone about it.
Other notable movie fads: Sound, color, widescreen, digital sound and picture … Lord knows the resultant proliferation of "bad movies" did them in!
"I need the Comments, because Devin banned me on the boards for disagreeing with him. Then he went back on the boards and lied to everyone about it." ha ha ha…. so true. Ever notice dissenting opinions disappearing from the comments sections? Some of the funniest, most true comments I see disappear from time to time.
Bravo Devin, you know people throw a lot of hate your way but I love your work. In fact I hate 3D but I hate it because I wear glasses and to make some one wear two pairs of glasses to watch a garbage movie should be a mortal sin. 3D is a fad and it'll fade away in a couple of years just like it has before so don't bother saving those glasses kids. Oh and 3D is a gimmick, it is the crutch of the feeble director to drum up excitement for drivel.
So you just basically admitted that Avatar was indeed a gamechanger, didn't you Devin?
I have about four pairs of 3D glasses that I've saved from previous viewings that I bring with me to the theater when I see a 3D movie. For Alice, four of us bought normal 2D tickets and snuck into the 3D showing with our own glasses and saved about 7 bucks each. Are all movie goers this savvy? No, but for us movie geeks, where there's a will, there's a way. That being said, 3D is here to stay, and a few years down the line, 3D TV sets will be the same price as HDTVs are now. Imagine watching sports or playing video games in 3D. The tech curve and the money left on the table guarantees it.
"Why would you want to get rid of talkbacks, don't you like voicing your opinion from time to time? It's better than the Chud forums which are full of failed nobodies and community college dropouts in some pathetic circle-jerk that's pretending to be an exchange of ideas. …."
As opposed to the comments, which consists of failed nobodies and community college dropouts who make no pretense of having ideas.
Could you explain what "sucks" about the 3-D in Alice in Wonderland? There were many things that sucked about the movie but I don't see how the 3-D is one of them. I have watched 3-D movies going back to FRIDAY THE 13TH 3-D and even HOUSE OF WAX. The bad ones are the red and blue ones like the Freddy one, and SUPERMAN RETURNS didn't work very well for me. This one looked great. I think maybe you read somewhere that it was retrofitted like CLASH OF THE TITANS, and then imagined that it didn't look very 3-D. This is not the case, it was pitched to Burton as "Alice in Wonderland in 3-D" and that's why he did it. The live action bits may have been done using software like PIRANHA 3-D – I don't know. And I don't understand why they do that. But I sure didn't notice it, and don't think it's very relevant since almost everything on screen is digital anyway.
So please explain
I just want to see more tiddies.
/and fuck fuck fuck! Why doesn't the cocksucking 'text field' take me 8 motherufcking tries?!
"So you just basically admitted that Avatar was indeed a gamechanger, didn't you Devin?"
rofl, that was my exact thought.
I don't know about everyone else, but I don't pay 50% more for a 3-D ticket. Also, I can't wait for TRON LEGACY. No other 3-D film is on my radar. Perhaps TOY STORY 3, but that's it.
"I think the fact that unlike sound and color, 3D requires extra hardware for the viewer is another thing that will limit the lifespan of the fad, but that's another argument for another time" – You mean like how people had to replace their black and white TV sets with color ones? Like how it's virtually impossible to find a new TV that isn't an HD flatscreen these days? Like how CDs replaced vinyl whether consumers wanted it or not? How many people are still watching black and white analog TV? The price of 3D TV will be high to begin with, but by 2013 you'll be able to pick up a set for a few hundred bucks. That's how the tech industry works. You make all the right noises to give the illusion of knowledge but, as always, most of your arguments are based on little more than prejudice and hot air.
IIRC there are non-eyeglasses 3D monitors in the works, but there's problem with a narrow viewing angle. Someone's bound to crack that problem with high enough resolution screens and maybe the upcoming computer paper will be the cinema screen du jour of the future. While the glasses are required it risks losing favor with the audience. But with 3D TV screens I fully expect domestic 3D video cameras to hit the market in the next several years – once that happens, 3D is here to stay.
I wish that 3D gave people terminal cancer.
I really think 3d is here to stay as well. Bad movies aren't going to kill anything. The local theatres near me are all installing more digital screens. We went from one Imax to 3 in about 2 years and I think another one is being installed. Combine it with the fact that 3d is a natural for video games, and you explain why sony's behind it. Also, my tv is already 3d ready. Yes, I also have 7.2 surround sound (not hardly supported). Suck it broke people!
Movies themselves were considered a "fad" at one time. If the consumer-electronics companies are adapting the technology to bring it into your home, you can be sure that 3D isn't simply a passing fancy; it's on the way to being an industry standard. And, really, "bad" 3D doesn't seem to matter to your average moviegoer, at least the ones I talk to. These are the folks that go see "every" movie, and by "every" movie, I mean stuff like Transformers, Iron Man, 2012, Alice, Avatar, even stupid one-off slasher flicks, and not ones like A Serious Man or The Hurt Locker. We can lament all we want about how "the masses" just don't get it, and that they'll buy anything so their consumption habit is not a measure of quality. No, it's not, but it's a measure of business. Avatar did indeed change the game because of its "good" 3D, and people will end up getting ripped off by "bad" 3D in Clash of the Titans or anything else that's being rushed to be retrofitted, even if they don't really care about the difference. However, more and more movies will be actually filmed in 3D, so "bad" 3D won't even be much of a concern beyond the next 10 months or so. The game has been changed, folks, whether you like it or not.
Devin is a fucking coward.
Any time Devin says "this will never, ever happen" it's a pretty safe bet that it's going to happen. Stick to reviews and leave the industry forecasts to people who actually work in the industry.
So glad to hear I wasn't the only one who was horrified by the 3D in Alice in Wonderland. It's a meh movie made awful by the 3D. We had the Tron: Legacy trailer in front of it and I seriously almost passed out at how gorgeous it is in 3D. I would have bought my ticket that night. But that night I also promised my self to never ever see a movie in 3D that wasn't shot for 3D.
The only time I'll pay for 3D is when it's IMAX 3D and it's a movie that I have huge anticipation for, like Avatar or like Tron: Legacy. If I'm going to pay $17 a ticket, it better be for a damn good movie. On all of these other movies that I'm moderately excited for and are going to be 3D but not IMAX like Clash of the Titans…no thanks. I'll pay the normal $10 ticket and see it in 2D. 3D isn't worth the premium price for anything less than a mind-blowing movie that deserves full immersion. I think Hollywood is going to be shocked at how many people don't want to pay the premium prices for any old movie.
I think we are all missing the point here a tad. The point is Devin is a complete douchebag who does not have an original thought and acts like a little bitch by deleting only his negative comments in the talkbacks. Apart from that his long winded article could have been completed in 1 sentence, 3d is a fad that comes around once every 10 years then disappears again. Done. No one gives a shit about 3D and they never will as long as you need the goofy glasses.
I think Chudfan makes a really good point, Devin is a huge douche!
Hairynerd is right! Keep fighting for the Truth guys!
I think Bobafat makes a lot of sense in his comment commending hairynerd. If there is one thing we can all agree on its that Devin is a gigantic douchebag!
I hope the comments can stay, I really wish you guys that had shit to talk about Devin did so in a constructive manner. He's not always right and he has an indefensible love of musicals but at least you always know where he's coming from with his opinions.
As far as the next gimmick to reach into our wallets goes, I'm holding out for the feelies. It's a brave new world after all.
Quit acting like a jerkoff #35 and try to stay on topic!
Three Oranges is right quit acting like a jerkoff #35 and stay on topic. Usually three oranges is an giant asshole but good comment today! Oh and I agree with #27.
Way to take a decent comment section and turn it into a flame war, guys. It's not even worth discussing the topic anymore. Hope you feel like you did something useful today.
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