IESB probably should have timed their scoop better; the site reported that Joss Whedon was at the head of the ‘short list’ of Avengers directors on April 1st, a day when the movie webs become paralyzed with unfunny fake stories. Many folks dismissed it.
But it was a legit scoop, and a follow-up by the LA Times reveals that there have been talks between Whedon and Marvel about directing the superhero team up movie. But it’s hard to tell how serious Marvel is, as they’ve proven that their method is bring people in, talk with them, leak the info online and then make their decisions based on the feedback from the web. John Krasinski had the Captain America role until the web got uppity about it, and Marvel threw out a whole bunch of names to get our reactions.
I hope that the deal doesn’t get done. I like Whedon’s work, but he feels wrong for The Avengers; the movie needs someone who will get the interpersonal bickering of the team but also take the adventure seriously. The Avengers is an all-star team concept, and these guys don’t get together because of any real shared interests or likes, but rather because they’re all the biggest at what they do. There’s comedy in that concept – it’s a workplace concept, at its heart, as opposed to the familial grouping of the Fantastic Four or the oppressed minority grouping of the X-Men. But I fear that Whedon would go too far in that direction – and since Marvel seems to be happy to let their movies get written on set, the impact of a director will be major in every area of storytelling.
Of course this is exactly what Whedon needs. He has name recognition, but it’s limited. Being the guy behind one of the biggest movies of the coming decade would open him up to a whole new audience.
It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes in the months ahead.





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Okay, if I understood this correctly, you dismiss Whedon as a "comedy person", who can't do serious action, right?Yeah, right, now that I think about it, Serenity was fucking hilarious, with all the murder and whatnot. It it really lacking in the action department too. I hope Whedon does the next Sandler movie, though.
Reasonable choice. If anything he'll make it smarter than some hack job like Joe Johnston.
Great idea. Lets get the guy that has two tv shows that barely got cult status, two other tv shows that no one watched, a movie based on one of the failed tv shows that bombed, and wrote a screenplay that helped ruined the Alien franchise. Hey, maybe he can take a character and make them gay for no reason, Whedon loves to do that.
Aren't uppity web types about the ONLY support that Whedon has? He's just as much of a mainstream non-entity as he was when Serenity came out, so I can't see Marvel making their decision based solely on what the web thinks. They're better than that and there's a lot at stake. If they think he's the best man for the job, great, but if not, if you think a billion dollar corporation is just going to hire the man and place the fate of their Hollywood future in his hands based on how net nerds react, you're just a fucking idiot. If web support translated to a bigger viewing audience, then Whedon wouldn't be struggling to keep his shows running for more than a season or 2 on a non-WB/UPN/CW network.
Dev – normally I agree with your somewhat wonked-out opinions, but you're way off base on this one. Whedon CAN balance humanity, humor and action – Firefly/Serenity is proof of that. I know you didn't like Serenity, but re-watch it – especially the opening and closing scenes – and tell me he can't equally balance action AND humor, while writing some of the most "human" characters on film.
His strength is working with an ensemble, and that'll be a very important dynamic to nail here. And not everything he does is jokey. He's got my vote.
The guy who brought us such acclaimed hits as 'Dollhouse', and before that 'Serenity' has the possibility of taking the reigns of arguably one of the biggest flicks this decade? Say it isn't so.
As PlanB pointed out, this movie doesn't need an auteur, it needs a manager who can serve his corporate masters, juggle the needs of several franchises, handle action as well as character drama, and make a fun movie. My first choice would be Brad Bird.
Honestly, I don't see how anyone could possibly be opposed to Favreau changing his mind and making the time to direct The Avengers, but it'd be awesome if they gave it to Joss. He'd make it soar.
I think Joss would do the Avengers right….His astonishing X-men run is great..Hes no dummy im sure he gets what the anvengers are about …It would be interesting to see…
Dev, booby, then who the hell do you recommend if Whedon and his marauding bunch of brown coat fucktards aren’t penitent enough men to pass your casting litmus, huh cocksniff? Awhile back I succinctly remember a particular CHUD.com writer suggesting that the great grape-killer, Coppola, get all up behind this bitch. But now, watcha got? Rewriting a 4-day-old story with no added thoughts to progress the dialogue further. And to think I zipped up from Youjizz.com to read this shit.
I'd rather Whedon continued to follow his own path rather than get sucked into the franchise machine, to be honest, and I don't really think he's a good fit for this either. He's a better writer than he is a director. On another note, Joe Johnston a hack? He made The Rocketeer, so he gets a lifetime pass from me.
Obviously Raja Gosnell is the right person to direct the Avengers movie. Obviously.
You nerds should stop bashing Whedon due to his "failures" like having a few long running shows. Sure Firefly got fucked and Serenity wasn't a big hit. But if you looked at Favreau's filmography would you have thought the guys who made little-seen cult comedies with one big hit mostly due to Farrell, and the bomb known as Zathura should direct a big screen action movie?
Face it dorkos, Speilberg ain't gonna be interested.
You write the Avengers film should have "interpersonal bickering of the team but also take the adventure seriously". I felt that was the tone of EVERY episode of Firefly plus the movie.
Has no one watched " Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on TV???? That was one of the best examples of balancing character, action and story, ever! The interplay of the Scoobies is amazing! Read Astonishing X men, the best X men comic ( And I HATE X Men comics) of all time. The guy totally handle a collection of personalities joined together for a common goal If anything He SHOULD NOT be restricted, let him do what he does best, make you give a damn if the Avengers succeed, Give each character their moment. Like what more could you ask for?
Joss Whedon, while I believe is more than up to the task just doesnt appeal to me as a director. I find his work on Serenity and Firefly to be ok to pretty decent, but certainly not outstanding. He does come from comic books, but so did a lot of writers whose work can be viewed nowadays as severely lacking. Now if the studios went out on a limb and hired JJ Abrams then that would be something. Star Trek is how its done, dealing with the dynamics of strong characters and integrating heart and soul into a storied franchise.And the Avengers would be the perfect fit.
Serenity is a very underrated, overlooked, incredibly moving piece of scifi.
I think he'd be perfect for this.
I've been saying that only Favreau should direct Avengers…. but I'm going to hold that thought until I see IM2. The previews look a little too corny and have gotten me nervous… though I'm sure trailers for IM1 that included ANY 3rd act dialogue would have made me feel the same way. Just really, really hope it doesn't completely let us down.
Whedon would be the perfect choice. He always finds the perfect balance of humor, action, and the juggling of big ensemble casts.
stfu, Devin
Yeah, I think you're way off here. Whether you dug Firefly or not, the guy more than proved he could balance funny and serious with an ensemble. Hell, he did the same with Buffy on a smaller scale. Angel? Well, he TRIED, anyway…
Whedon sucks
Joss Whedon? Hell no. Brad Bird? Hell YES.
I think he can handle it. Though he'll probably want to take a crack at the script first. His career is at a place where Marvel can get him for a reasonable rate.
Whedon is an awesome choice. His whole thing is groups that don't get along but do get along who have to get along. Buffy, like it or not, is a classic TV show, Firefly/Serenity were cut off before their time, Alien Res would have been a fantastic 'team of bad-asses' movie if it wasn't THE Aliens involved, and he did Toy Story (which for all the Brad Bird fans was, i hate to admit it, better than the incredibles).
Yup, Whedon'd do it for me…
I'm all for it! Great idea!
"the movie needs someone who will get the interpersonal bickering of the team but also take the adventure seriously"
I'd love to see the guy pull a Favreau with this, so I'm biased, but even assuming Whedon's a bad choice, the above quote only makes sense as sarcasm. That's, like, his whole thing, juggling interpersonal bickering with adventure.
You just convinced me, actually. Now he won't get it and I'll be sad.
I don't know if Whedon is the best guy for this particular job, but if everything else in the mix goes right (casting, script, etc.) he could do a good job. One of the things he has a talent for is portraying strong, heroic lead characters, with some real human and superhuman flaws and dark streaks, that don't always play nice together…but who pull it together when it counts. That's definitely something an Avengers movie needs. Not to mention a touch of comedy (especially a few well placed mid-battle quips) fits the tone of Marvel's universe, comic and cinematic.
Fuck Whedon. Ditto on Favreau holding the reigns. He has restraint and respect for the material.
So why isn't Favreau wanting to commit to directing The AVENGERS??? Another project or what??? I thought he said he'd be Producer on it at 1 point???
So let me throw this out there with a hint of trolling in mind and all in good fun folks: Paul W.S Anderson Directing the AVENGERS???? MARVEL wants to go cheap as possible I suppose.. Would you all be pissed if they announced Paul W.S Anderson as Director???? I imagine DEVIN would be on suicide watch as well as others…
Still laughing at Devin's precious notion that Marvel runs all their casting ideas past the internet nerd hivemind for approval. Web writers seem to exist in a weird bubble where what they do is actually important, when all the studios see is a cheap and easily manipulated PR outlet. I wish you could hear what the people making movies actually think about the website crowd. It's salary and availability that decides who gets these jobs, not the jabbering geeks.
I love the idea man! He's definitely got enough sense as a director for dramatic scenes, as well as comic ones. The death of Fred, and then Wesley.. Damn that hurt. I've rarely been so emotionally invested in characters like Joss Whedon has made me, and he is probably the most effective guy who has worked in TV to cause such a strong reaction to come from my normally cold heart. HIRE HIM MARVEL! HE'S PERFECT!!
BRAD BIRD is the only choice to direct this flick.
"Serenity is a very underrated, overlooked, incredibly moving piece of scifi."HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I've rarely been so emotionally invested in characters like Joss Whedon has made me" That's because you are over 30 and living with your parents…. and you have never kissed a girl.
Whedon doing "The Avengers" is just too good to be true. Which means there's no way in hell that it'll happen.
Joss Whedon has been responsible for the majority of my favourite shows, movies and comics of the last ten years. The man has more talent in his pinky finger than most of us will have in a lifetime. I say let him at it. No matter the result, we'll laugh, we'll cry and most importantly, we'll think.
My interest in this just shot way up. Based on Serenity more than anything else. And I'm not a Whedon fanboy, since I mostly hate Buffy. Firefly/Serenity showed that he's a master of team dynamics where competing agendas are involved, and that he can do epic, large scale action well. He'll bring some wit and intelligence to it, guaranteed.
Other than Soderbergh what director's got the chops to manage the personalities and complexes actors have these days? Think of it like a baseball manager managing the team, Joe Torre with the Yankees comes to mind. Soderbergh is literally the only one to come to mind. Action, excitement, the guy can handle it, but obviously would NEVER do "The Avengers".
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