Where were all the Avatards at this year’s WonderCon?
The convention, held in San Francisco, is much, much smaller than San Diego Comic Con, and it’s definitely more comic book oriented than that annual supershow. Still, WonderCon is one of the half-dozen biggest conventions in the United States, and walking through the floor of the show I felt like it was saying a couple of things about the state of fandom in 2010.
Browncoats are here to stay. There was a huge Browncoat booth at WonderCon. Granted it was in the ‘fan club’ section of the floor, but it was massive, well organized, and had lots of stuff for sale. Next to it was a rinky dink and tragic booth for the TV show Jericho (I swear to God), and across the way was a booth for Avatar: The Last Airbender. But it wasn’t just the Browncoat booth (and for those out of the loop – Browncoats are the die-hard fans of Joss Whedon’s Firefly and Serenity); I saw a number of people in Browncoat outfits, wearing Browncoat identifying shirts, and with Browncoat buttons on their bags.
The Browncoats have always been a weird fandom – they’re really into something that just isn’t that good – but they’re obviously a loyal fandom. Like the Trek fans of the 70s, being the loser – the fandom that gets little respect and can’t seem to win any battles – is a powerful motivator. The best thing that happened to these people is that Serenity tanked.
The Avatards were missing. Three days at WonderCon and I didn’t sight a single Na’vi cosplayer. Wasn’t that supposed to be huge in 2010, what with their being Na’vi dictionaries and online tutorials for doing Na’vi make-up? Dressing as a Na’vi is actually perfect for a convention, where women who should be wearing more clothing take the opportunity to dress in either nothing or skintight spandex. There’s also a high level of sexualization of costumes, and the Na’vi come pre-sexualized.
So where were they? I didn’t even see much by way of Avatar merchandise; the closest was I saw two kids with Avatar Project backpacks with the name tag of ‘J. Sully,’ obviously some kind of promo schwag. Avatar toys, models, or posters were missing from the merch tables, and it would have been easy to believe that WonderCon was taking place before James Cameron changed the game.
Comic book characters ruled, but Watchmen was rare. I saw a couple of Rorschachs and a Silk Spectre – both longtime Con costume staples – but the flood of Watchmen characters I saw at Comic Con last summer was not present at WonderCon. And the Silk Spectre I saw was comic accurate as opposed to movie accurate.
That said, I saw a ton of comic book costumes, many of them hearkening back to the 70s and 80s. I saw a Patsy Walker, Hellcat costume (very well done!) and some classic X-Men costumes. Batman remains big, although the Joker wasn’t as present as he has been at previous comic conventions. WonderCon skews more towards comics than other geek properties, so it’s quite likely that this is why comic characters outnumbered all others.
Steampunk and anime hold their positions. Actually, steampunk could be growing. The most annoying geek subculture, steampunk was represented by a number of costumes and at least two tables of merch. I’ve been seeing a steady growth of steampunk at conventions, and while I think it has more or less stabilized, it’s possible that it was proportionately more visible at the smaller WonderCon than at the bigger Comic Con. I do suspect that it’s bleeding outside of the subculture – after all, even Disney is getting in on steampunk with The Mechanical Kingdom (real, as far as I know) – so it’s possible that steampunk video game or anime characters went unrecognized by me as specifics and were just filed away as generic ‘steampunk.’

Speaking of anime, they continue to be a strong component of conventions. There seems to be an unending supply of pimply 14 year old girls who want to wear cutesy hats and schoolgirl outfits that I’m assuming are based on something specific. There are always guys with oversized swords or weird things on their heads – I don’t recognize the specific references, usually, but I can get that it’s anime in some way. Having spent a couple of decades on the general convention scene I find it interesting that you rarely see grown up versions of these costumes; the 14 year old anime con-cosplayer of 15 years ago has either moved on to other costumes or has quit the whole scene altogether.
Star Trek is at the back of the bus. As a Trek fan I found very little to interest me at WonderCon. There were the usual toys, I found a couple of cool sericels from the animated series, and there were two big fat guys dressed as Klingons (people who dress as Klingons tend to be really tubby, I’ve found), but the hoped-for bunches of green skinned Orion Starfleet cadets were not to be found. And the JJ Abrams Trek was barely represented. I did see about six different people in the same Urban Outfitters Trek shirt, though – an original series design.
Where the hell did all the Trekkies go? Their numbers had been dwindling at non-Trek specific cons for years, and for good reason: their franchise was shit. But with the new movie energizing the franchise and making it the most fun, the sexiest and the best current scifi property, I thought for sure we’d see more Trekkies showing up at WonderCon, and I completely assumed they’d be rocking the new movie outfits. It was not the case.
It’s lights out for Twilight. While Twilight had a major presence at Comic Con, there was very little of it at WonderCon. No cosplay (although it’s a tough costume to put together), and very little merch. In fact, the trailer for Eclipse was booed when it was played in the big presentation room. That’s a long way from the thousands of tweens who camped out overnight to get into Hall H at last year’s Comic Con. I’m not placing any franchise health judgments as a result of this; the Twilight crowd has infiltrated Comic Con, but they’re not regular con attendees, so they likely wouldn’t make the trek to San Francisco for WonderCon.
Star Wars remains king. You couldn’t turn a corner without running into something Star Wars related. As surprised as I was that a franchise as vital and refreshed as Star Trek was poorly accounted for, I was doubly surprised that a franchise as exhausted and lame as Star Wars was so popular. Jedi costumes have been popular for some time at these events – they’re easy for lazy fuckers to whip up – but the spectrum ranged from specific Luke Skywalkers to Twi’leks to the usual hordes of stormtroopers to even a guy doing Han Solo as Wolverine.
And the merch! Everywhere I went there was a ton of Star Wars merch on display. Toys, props, costumes, memorabilia – I overheard one guy say ‘It’s like Star Wars threw up in here,’ and I couldn’t have agreed more. In fact I’d say that I saw more Star Wars going on here than I have at a con since the release of Revenge of the Sith bummed everybody out. I suspect that The Clone Wars, which is hitting a very specific niche audience (much of which is made up of conventioneers), played a role in the dramatic Star Wars resurgence.
These are just some observations I made this past weekend; in reality you can’t judge fandom until July, when San Diego Comic Con really puts it all out there. Trends I saw at WonderCon may not be represented at Comic Con; likewise Comic Con could hold some major surprises for us. Still, it’s fun to look at fandom as it struts its stuff at these events and try to take its pulse.
UPDATED: There seems to be some folks taking offense at this article. I’m not sure why. Sorry that I don’t like Firefly or Serenity that much – neither does most of the world, judging by the numbers. That’s just the way it is. Nobody’s taking you to task for liking it.
As for claims in the comments that I’m ‘bullying’ convention-goers – how silly. I go to conventions. I bought stuff at WonderCon. I’m going to Monsterpalooza in LA this weekend. I’m just fascinated by the hardcore fanbases, the people who put on costumes and go to these shows. While this is a miniscule portion of the crowd of tens of thousands at WonderCon, I do think that these people are sort of the geek outliers – they tell us, in broad terms, what’s going on in the geek world, as does the kinds of merch available. If you think anything less than a celebration of these people is picking on them, sorry, but you’re wrong.





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Devin my boy, it's a good article but you should be careful about your Star Wars rants. I'm not bothered, but others will want your head.
i usually have no problem with you devin, but saying firefly and serenity "really aren't very good" just sounds like you desperate to bait people. oh hey, you know that jumper movie? the one you said in your review that had you seen when you were 14 you would have rushed home and created endless fan fiction? it really wasn't very good.
You'll see more Trek stuff once Abrams' series starts differentiating itself more, design wise. Trek and Avatar prolly aren't there because they're "trendy" now and WC is more of a "how niche can I be" show (any Zur-En-Arr Batmans? I saw a couple this Halloween.) If and when, say, Klingons show up in the Abramsverse looking like something other than traditional Klingons, you'll see a big uptick in "REAL Klingons" or whatever. Unless he goes TOS with the design, in which case it's time to buy stock in silver mesh tank-tops…
Devin.. I'm a big fan of Firefly/Serenity. I do not go around calling myself a browncoat and my loyalty lies with Mr. Whedon and his creative team. So yes, what I'm about to say may be biased, but I still feel it's truthful regardless. You said that browncoats are "really into something that just isn't that good." I've always had disagreements with some of your criticisms, as they do tend to be a little harsh and unwarranted sometimes. But they are your opinions and I respect your right to voice them. However, calling Firefly something that is just not that good, doesn't sit well with me. You can say you are not a fan of the show, that is fine. But to call it "not good" I feel is a sign that sometimes it's just best to ignore your opinion. If you look at the writing of the show, the talent in front of the camera and all the thought behind the show, I reallly do not see how you can say that is really just not that good. Even I can admit when I see something that doesn't appeal to my sensibilities, but can recognize it as being a good piece of entertainment. Whedon's work often is more than entertainment, it is a reflection of us as human beings. There is always more to it than what is on the surface. Maybe my latent inner browncoat came to the surface when I read your comment, but I think I have to say, with all due respect, you are kind of a dick.
Those fucking nerds. I bet they don't appreciate quality Planet of the Apes merch.
Avatar came out five months ago. Give it time.
How exactly does one go to a nerd convention and get annoyed at all the nerds? That's like going to a Tea Party rally and being shocked at all the racists.
Don't consider myself a Browncoat but Firefly/Serenity is quality scifi. I think this article hit a tons fan bases because he is hit baiting.
Trek may have been "revitalized" but it was amongst the mainstream audience (who forgot it once it was off cinema screens), not the nerdlingers. Star Trek requires a TV show to be on air to keep it's fanbase energized – seems like SW has finally become shit enough to support a trekkie-level subculture. So what are dress-up-in-costume SW fans called (besides "Cunts" I mean)?
As usual, Devin sits around trolling his own site and his own readership. It's a good thing this site has other writers, or else I might have to stop reading. Luckily, Devin is like a single turd floating in an otherwise pristine pool of talent.
One cannot convincingly argue that Serenity is anything less than very good.
Devin is a fanboy-baiting ass, plain and simple. He secretly sits at home and FAPFAPFAPFAPS to Firefly episodes.
How was the fan bashing contingent? Did they have a decent booth?
sigh.
Yes, this really is the apex of Devin hit whoring. I've never engaged in any fandom relating to Firefly but I enjoy it. I think at Wondercon Devin was reminded of himself in jr. high or something and wanted to turn the tables and play bully.
maybe the avatards saw you coming and hid?
Its funny how irked Devin gets at Firefly, always debasing it (and its fan support) as awful, while, as he does here, applauding Star Trek and Wars, franchising that I'd argue are far more sullied and tired and poorly executed- and I say that not even liking Firefly much.
This post is specifically designed to see which fan group will spaz the most. I don't think it's hit whoring. I think Devin is legitimately interested in seeing which group will mobilize first.
Yeah, I wouldn't consider myself a "Browncoat" by any means, Devin. But I think Firefly was some of the best TV I've ever seen.
PS. Seriously… fix the fucking CAPTCHA
"Devin is legitimately interested in seeing which group will mobilize first."
Can I ask then…whats the point of doing this then? What kind of weird social experiment do you think Devin wants to accomplish? Are you saying if one of these groups attack him first he can now spit in that same fandom face to vilify he's right? That being a fan is being a loser?
wow………getting harder and harder to defend devin……..
You didn't see Watchmen costumes because that movie is fucking embarrassing and everyone knows it, except you apparently.
"…they're really into something that just isn't that good". Nice blanket statement. WHY isn't Firefly that good? Because FOX fucked them over from day 1? You, sir, are a hit-whoring dick.
Jesus Christ Devin, you're addicted to your own misery, aren't you? You attend these events, 7/8ths of which you despise, simply so you can prove that you're a grown above all this nonesense. We get it! You're too cool for the fucking room! Problem is, you've become comic book guy. Seriously. The chubby guy who hates for the sake of hating. I'm sorry to have seen that happen.
Oh, so Avatard attendance at Wondercon is the true barometer of the movie's success now. Silly me, I thought the $2.6 billion and counting in worldwide grosses, the nine Oscar nominations, the long lines in Communist China and other non-U.S. areas of the world, and the bizarre spectacle of seeing our parents and grandparents wearing 3D glasses would be better measures. This completely proves your case, Devin. Check and mate, sir.
You people are taking way too much offense to this article. Be invested in geek properties, but be invested to a point. Just because Devin challenges your tastes (he's right in this instance btw) doesn't mean you have to get all up in arms. are you pissed when Devin says Firefly sucks? Or are you pissed that he might be right and you've wasted the last four years of your life? All in all, we're all geeks and we should be lucky that there are booths at Cons where we can go and bitch about other people's booths and how silly they are. If you can't appreciate that then you're missing the point.
1) Avatar only made what it made off of a 3D bump that easily accounts for 40 percent of it's gross. If you use simple math, the amount of people who saw the film are the same as those who saw Revenge of the Fallen. it's nothing spectacular and it lost most of it's Oscar Nominations and best picture to a film that made a 100th of it's world wide title.
2) Devin, you just have to accept something about Star Wars: you're wrong. It's that simple. You are not the majority opinion, the people agree with you are usually the same sort of sods that have that TIN MAN feature you seem to have, and the kids are already sold on these films in ways something like RINGS never ever will be. Per usual; Star Wars wins. Keep bitching, keep hating the prequels, and keep on insulting Lucas' chin while ignoring your not too far off from a similar fate, but just realize you are wrong.
3) The same goes with Firefly. Seriously, for a guy so wrong, you are entertaining, and why would Twilight fans go to a con without Pattinson and Lautner in attendance?
NERDFIGHT!
Is no one else fascinated that there is was a Jericho fanclub booth? What the fuck? That show went off the air like, two years ago. Was Skeet Ulrich running it himself? Was it set up by CBS to sell all the cashews that people mailed to them? I want to see pictures of this booth!
I am fascinated with the pic of the girl in yellow showing just a hint of camel toe. I couldn't give two fucks about jericho or their fanbooth.
God I love seeing fanboys get riled. Not because I don't like fanboys, but because over the years their wrath has become so impotent I literally cannot take the side of a group of people to which intellectual deconstruction is so flagrantly unimportant. I never see fanboys defend anything on anything other than the most base of levels "You say Serenity isn't good!? Well it IS good! So there!!" The most egregious though is the defense of the Star Wars Prequels, those films are indefensible, I see battle raged, and take part in, debates constantly over on the aint it cool talkbacks and never once have a met an argument over the Prequels which I couldn't easily brush off the the bare minimum of critical thought. Those arent just bad films, they are some of the worst film ever produced and they dont work on any level other than trading off the name of the original trilogy. And that's why the prequels and clone wars have any support, they are enough of an empty vessel that fanboys can plug in whateevr they want to see. And for JsPartisan to say Devin is just wrong about them is absurd. THere is no consensus among anyone that those are anything other than horrible films, the vast majority of both the general moviegoing public and Star Wars fans agree that those are shit movies. Certainly no critic worth their salt has ever come to those films defense.
Being an So Cal transplant from the Bay area, I think the demograghics are being overlooked here. Comicon is much more about movies being close to LA. Steampunk is big in SF because the Maker fair and that whole movement is based there. SF has no children in it hence the Twi-Hate, it is full of hipsters. Also Skywalker ranch is right there which explains why they can't let go of Star Wars.
My therory on Star Trek is the reason it did so well and is very good is because it appealed to a mainstream audience. Those people do not goo to conventions.
Hey #27, please add critical thought and math to your argument. If every ticket sold for Avatar was to a 3D screen, the most the gross would go up is about 30%, since that's a generous estimate of the cost increase for a 3D ticket, as opposed to the regular 2D theater ticket, when the film came out. And the Oscar® losses don't really matter, since most marketing seems to get about as much mileage out of "Oscar® Nominated" as they do out of "Oscar® Winner." And now I'm pissed because you've put me in the position of defending a film I don't even LIKE. Oh, and Star Wars is a series of KIDS movies. You are aware of that, right? If not, then the group of teddy bears in film number 3 (sigh… 6?) should have tipped you off. I loved them as a kid, but watching them now makes my boner sad. But, to use an old management trick, I'll end on a positive note and say I really did like Firefly and thought Serenity was a damn fine film.
Hey Devin,
The only really weird thing i see about fandom is the tendency to freak out over anything aimed at females (Titanic, Twilight, etc…), there's gotta be something Freudian about that.
P.S. Chud's verification process will have me breaking out the Tequila. Please fix it.
Nice seeing Devin butthurt over Star Wars still taking hold despite being over for 5 years while nobody gives a turd about the Star Trek relaunch.
"Firefly"
"isn't that good"
Butthurt Trekkie detected.
By your logic in your update, Devin, Star Trek wasn't very good either; with the possible exception of the remake.
So basically you walked around a nerd convention looking down your nose at all the nerds and shook your head in disbelief as people celebrated the things the love?Isn't the entire point of these conventions to be able to openly embrace the thing you love without fear of being judged by people who are clearly as danny glover would say getting too old for this shit?
I find myself starting to agree with Devin these days. Whedon-heads are a brain-washed lot. I can't think of any other creator that has such fan loyalty over such a string of mediocrity in any media (although Geoff Johns in the comic world is similar but not to the same extent of public exposure). Hell, at least Lucas was a trailblazer in the 70/80s. If Devin is baiting, a lot of you sure bit, didn't you? I haven't gone to any major conventions in years (something like 6 or 7 for SDCC), since I've long been embarrassed by my fellow fans. And this is coming from a guy that still buys comics and toys.
"Sorry that I don't like Firefly or Serenity that much – neither does most of the world, judging by the numbers." Really? Are box office numbers now the answer to whether something is good or not? I thought your argument before was that Avatar was not good, no matter how many people saw it. I demand we get the Oscar taken away from The Hurt Locker, since judging by the numbers it was one of the worst movies of the year.
I was at WonderCon and had a blast, myself. Maybe I'm misreading, but man, Devin, you really seem to be looking down your nose at people who, really, are just having some fun. You remember fun, right? It's what you had more of before you decided to become ironically detached and started looking down on everyone else. Yes, there were dysfunctional nerds there, but, again, most are just regular people having a good time. And if someone still really likes Firefly…so what? It's not getting in your way, and they aren't practicing mind control to make you like it against your will. Relax and just go find something you like. Put on a costume. You might actually enjoy it.
Having said that, I was surprised at the lack of people doing Avatar costumes/bodypaint/whatever. There's an interesting story in there on why something so popular (I thought the movie was okay, myself) hasn't penetrated either popular or nerd culture the way Star Wars and other movies and shows have.
Haha. Everyone hates Devin.
This article was great. As a convention goer, I like to go for the comics (I'm big into comics but can't stand anime or manga. I could never get into either one) but I don't understand where collecting/reading/sharing comics or graphic novels or even DVDs spills over into dressing up as my favorite character. I don't go to movies dressed up as my favorite director, why the fuck would I want to dress like Nathan Fillion or Wolverine. Dressing up in a costume and going to conventions should not be synonymous.
Devin's poking fun here (even if it does come off as mean spirited) at people who publicly open themselves up to ridicule (don't say that's not true cause cons even have contests or masquerades to judge you by your costume). If you can get up the courage to dress in blue paint and a cape in public then you should have the very unsuperhuman ability to take a fuckin' joke. Stop being so sensitive. Laugh at yourself, assholes. You're an adult dressed up as your favorite fictional character. That's pretty fuckin' funny.
Wow, does Devin ever get tired of looking at a microscope about shit no one cares about?
As to what people are wearing, weird that Devin doesn't like steampunk. If I had to wear a dumb costume at least you can do an original with that, and it's kind of cool. Cooler than dressing up like Silk Spectre or being Devin, at least.
so Devin, why don't you tell us what you DO like. So fucking bitter all the time. Jesus christ.
So let me get this straight. First Devin makes fun of "Avatards" for liking a movie. Then he makes fun of them for not liking a movie enough to dress up for it? Then he makes fun of Browncoats for being fans of a franchise, right before lamenting that not enough people are fans of an even nerdier franchise? And finally, he makes fun of people for being fat. I understand this article exists solely to bait your readers and drive hits, but Devin, are you seriously that unaware of your blatant hypocrisy? Either this is some grand piece of performance art, or you've become a tired joke.
I truly love Devin. You see, trolls usually invade the domain of someone else to make their attacks, but Devin has convinced you idiots to COME TO HIM. It's masterful. I'm in awe.
I'd like to see a Devin's Advocate where he tells the world what steampunk ever did to him. I'm quite apathetic to the movement, but I have to say that his hatred of it is as fascinating as other people's love of it.
Is there anything really holding this genre in place? Where do they spawn? And why hate something that is completely formless and without substance?
Trolling is a art.
Mr. Faraci, I must request a clarification. Enlighten me, please, I beg of you, of anyone. I don't think I'm a stupid person (though admittedly a stupid person wouldn't). I read novels. I think Thomas Pynchon and Fyodor Dostoevsky are good. I listen to music. I think Arnold Schoenberg and Ornette Coleman are good. I watch films. I think Akira Kurosawa and Howard Hawks are good. I have pretty fucking good taste. And godammit, I think Firefly is good (it isn't in the same league, ballpark, city, state, or geographical region as the other examples given, but good). Firefly has good writing with well-drawn characters in tense, dramatic situations with real conflict capped off with lovely cinematography. What's not good, exactly? Please, Devin, I need you to edify me with your all-encompassing wisdom. What's missing from the formula? What precisely is lacking in Whedon's creation to warrant it such faint and fleeting praise as a grudging, "Good." The show failed because it was fucked in the ass with a rusty-nail-studded Louisville Slugger by Fox, moving its time slot and airing it out of sequence. If you contest that assertion, please show the error of my argument. Draw your syllogism. I ache for your Socratic discourse, pointing to the grievous flaw in my thinking. How, precisely, is Firefly "not good," you pompous little charlatan?
I'm tired of all the Revenge of the Sith hate.
Every article you do about going to conventions seems to focus on pointing out everything (read: everyone) that you think is lame and pathetic in their adoration or execution of it. I've never been to a con and have no interest, but for someone who seems to pull sci-fi geek cred a lot with references to loving ST: TOS and tabletop RPG as a kid, you sure do bash the crap out of people a lot for having fun with properties they enjoy. I guess if you talked about things you love instead of all the shit you hate other people for loving this wouldn't be the internet though.
I really liked Firefly, but am I the only one who thinks Joss Whedon is a little overrated? Perhaps I missed Buffy by a few years (I liked what I saw, but I think I would have loved it in high school). I think Firefly was probably the best sci-fi show since Star Trek: TNG (am I wearing rose colored lenses?), but I’m willing to admit it’s possible that the show seemed much better than it was because good sci-fi comes along so rarely. Overall, I agree with Devin about 95% of the time; just because I disagree with him here doesn’t mean I don’t respect his opinion (I mean, come on. Some of my best friends are Yankees fans). Keep up the good overall work, Devin.
Also, anyone still doubting Star Wars’ current atrociousness needs to watch the reviews of Episodes I and II by RedLetterMedia. Fantastic stuff, and funny as balls.
BTW, am I the only one having trouble with the verification codes here? It tells me over and over that the letters weren't copied correctly, when they freakin' were.
Devin's right about not picking up on Steampunk's prevalence, he doesn't seem to notice that Guillermo Del Toro's aesthetic is heavily steampunk.
Incredible. Even though he sees the proof that Star Trek was NOT "revitalized" by the horrible Star Trek movie, because no one is dressing up like Star Trek at the convention, he clings to his assertion that it did! How about people dressing up like Wikus from District 9, Devin? Aren't you surprised by the absence of the District 9 fandom? (Devin gave the movie 10 out of 10, the retard). So, let's get this straight … people who dress up in imaginative fantastical steampunk outfits are "losers" (why, because they aren't large in numbers? Since when is overpopularity a guarantee of quality) but people who dress up as Orion slave girls are hip and with it? So you wanted to spooge over a cute girl dressed in green paint. That kinda makes YOU a pathetic loser. Glad it didn't happen for you.
Next time you go to a convention, how about trying to think of a way to appreciate the people there instead of trying to rally everyone around in you in a giant sneer? Then you won't get the sneers back for you pathetic Trek nerdery.
"The Browncoats have always been a weird fandom – they're really into something that just isn't that good"
Yes, but 'not that good' compared to what? Planet of the Apes? Star Trek? Troma? Twilight? As if fandoms were ever engendered by the artistic merits of their franchises. That's a stupid argument, Devin, and you know it.
As Hitgirl would say,
"What a fucking douche"
Devlin do you understand the difference between your backtracking “Sorry that I don't like Firefly … Nobody's taking you to task for liking it” and your initial “they're really into something that just isn't that good”. Because if you honestly can’t then you could get a job at AICN.
You really do bully convention goers. My saddest CHUD moment was watching that video you posted at a convention last year where you commented on how your favourite part was the 'has-been' actors sitting alone to sign autographs. When you called them pathetic, and took genuine pleasure at their situation it became truly apparent that you were genuinely petty and mean-spirited. It was pretty sad to see. Worse, you then ridiculed everyone dressed up, and then anyone who turns up to covnentions, as if somehow you were exempt and part, there only to observe and excused because you were paid. You are a dick, petty, a bully, and much less smart than you realise. You are a good troll, and that is why we enjoy you. Everyone likes to watch train wrecks. Part of the human condition. Keep dancing fool, the music hasn't stopped – just don't mistake yourself for anything other than our mean little dancing monkey.
I don't hate you, Devin. I'll always be there for you. Best friends to the end.
Here is my "that show sucks but has a big fanbase".. Chuck. Chuck is the new Firefly, the show is absolute trash but yet people freak out if it isn't on the air.
Seriously though, I've never watched Jericho, Firefly, or seen Avatar, but it seems like Devin likes to go to these places just to make himself feel better about his own world filled with evil knife wielding midgets and where Dolph lundgren on drums plays 24/7.. Seriously, if you think everything about them is a joke, DON'T GO.
"Avatards. Star Wars is crap. Firefly is crap." Followed by an update of "There seems to be some folks taking offense at this article. I'm not sure why. " Jesus, what lazy trolling. I agree with almost all of your article, but somehow how leave it thinking your a knob. Star Wars has lessened in quality considerably over the years, but even at it's worst it is still kinda watchable. I doubt you got up and left the cinema half way through any of the prequel films. But Star Trek, when that's bad, it's agonizingly boring.
Devin, your asshurt Trekkie bullshit over "Firefly" is old. Find something new to be an asshole about.
Devin reminds me of my overweight and unattractive male acquaintances who make fun of others for being overweight and unattractive.
"I wouldn't fuck that girl! She's an ugly fatass!"
The real joke here is when I show Devin's clips or pictures to people where he's at a con making fun of others, the people who see him are laughing at the fact that Devin totally doesn't "get" that he is, in appearance, exactly the people he is mocking! Overweight, prematurely aged, and hunchbacked due to overweightness.
Devin – gotta take issue with the "Firefly/Serenity" knock. Being popular doesn't equate to being "good" – otherwise, when should we expect to see Brittney Spears receive a lifetime achievement award in music? You're a pretty smart guy, and compelling writer, but I swear you try to tweak readership by crapping on something that doesn't deserve it. You don't like Firefly/Serenity? That's cool. But your dislike of it doesn't make it "bad," no more than my hatred of broccoli makes it bad.
I hope you like what your site has become.
There seem to be some folks hating on you, Devin. I'm pretty sure why. Sorry that we don't like you that much – neither does most of the world, judging by the comments. That's just the way it is. Nobody's taking you to task for liking yourself.
Seems like reasonable observation and commentary from a guy I certainly don't always agree with. Firefly is the essence of "cult," and is more than a little overblown by it's devotees. If you can't see that, you are truly blind.
The thing with Firefly and Serenity is that there are many fans of that series that are not necessarily part of the Whedon cult. It appealed to many different people outside the Buffy realm, and the way the show comes across assembled as it is in its current collected form makes a much different impression than it did when Fox rolled it out, chopped it up, and totally killed it before it had a chance.
This nerdfight reminds me of this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTAGIkYsAdY
If you have never seen this would-be Adult Swim show called 'Welcome to Eltington' that never made it, you really really need to check it out. Bring me the head of Boba Fett!
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