
Major spoilers for Lost’s latest episode follow.
Last night’s Lost episode, Across the Sea, sealed the show’s fate for me – an awful, poorly written shitheap of an episode, it guaranteed that I am sitting through the show’s final three hours only out of a sense of obligation to finish what I started. I’m a guy who cheered the end of The Sopranos and who thinks the finale of Battlestar Galactica is essentially brilliant, so it isn’t like I’m put off by shows not meeting my expectations or going where I want them to go. I’m put off by shows being bad, and then being kind of dickish about it (“Every question you ask will just lead to another question” is an actual quote from one character blowing off another last night).
But I don’t think it had to be terrible. I may never be happy with the limited answers we were given – the cave of urine, the origins of the Smoke Monster, the contrivance of never giving the Man in Black a fucking name – but this hot carl of an episode could have been handled so much better.
Here’s how:
1) Don’t make the episode. This is the simplest one. Across the Sea didn’t need to exist. It actually gave us very little new information, and what we did need to learn – Jacob and MiB’s relationship, the origins of the donkey wheel – could have been imparted with a line of dialogue or two within a normal episode. After all, MiB already gave us the meat of his origin story in off the cuff remarks, only leaving out “My twin brother hurled me into a cave of urine.”
A lot of people have been comparing Across the Sea to Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace not only because young Jacob superficially reminded us of Anakin Skywalker but because it’s an example of a story we didn’t need to hear, and a story whose banality undermines the foundations of everything else.
2) Make the episode a flashback. It’s been twice this season that Lost has broken format and given backstory to ageless characters by simply having exposition-filled episodes where people stand around and talk about who they are, where they’re from and what experiences they’ve had off-camera that make them who they are (which is the least dramatically satisfying way to get across information, and one that this show keeps falling back on). Why not have both Ab Aeterno and Across the Sea be flashbacks… you know, since the show was built on a foundation of backstory being given out through flashback? They could use a flashback episode to tell us how Jack got his fucking tattoos but not to explain the origins of the cosmic beings in whose game our characters are but pawns? And I know there are no flashbacks this season, but Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse could have earned their paycheck by spending an extra hour figuring out how to tell audiences they were seeing flashbacks, not flash-sideways.
3) Make it a story. Across the Sea was a poorly written series of expository scenes that contained little drama. The episode feels like someone giving someone else the Cliff Notes of a bigger, more epic tale… so make it exactly that. Have the Man in Black relate his story to Claire, or have the Losties discover a parchment or a cave painting or a tablet in the Lighthouse that explains this tale. By having the narrative gimmick of making this episode a legend/myth, the writers wouldn’t need to have characters in it behave like normal humans as we expect to see them behave in modern TV shows. And the elements of mystery they’re so gung-ho to preserve – like what’s in the urine cave and why the hell did the Smoke Monster come out of it – could have been preserved because the writer of the legend wouldn’t have the answer. Plus it would put in an element of the unreliable narrator, and since Lindelof and Cuse never met an answer they wanted to leave unmuddied, it would have allowed them to give us info but continue obfuscating. And it would have felt natural, a result of a tale being passed down over thousands of years – and since half the heavy-handed allusions in last night’s poorly written episode were Biblical in nature, this would have fit right in. The grotesquely simple-minded metaphors and symbolism would have also felt more natural in a legend – otherwise we’re left wondering why no one would ever give Man in Black a name simply so they have something to call him besides ‘Hey you.’
4) Go back in time and change the way the characters deal with the mysteries. Hear me out. Lindelof and Cuse have said again and again that the show is about the characters, not about the mystery. The last two seasons feel like they contradict this statement totally, but let’s take it at face value. So the show is about the characters… why not have the characters care about the mysteries? If the characters cared about the Island and what it was and who Jacob and Man in Black were the story we were given last night could have been told organically through discoveries made by the main characters. By making the characters not care about the mysteries the show is essentially forcing itself into two halves, and I don’t think it’s servicing either properly. The characters are stuck in an irritating loop of escape the island/go back to the island/stay on the island arguments and endless walks in the jungle to get from one scene where they’re passive to another scene where they’re passive. By making the characters active participants in the Island’s mysteries, they would be driving the solutions to the mysteries as well as being much more active in the final episodes as the Man in Black’s plan comes together.
I get that at one point it made sense that survival was what motivated these people, but now they’re motivated by… well, it’s unclear from episode to episode. Season five should have seen the Losties taking a role in figuring out what is going on and who is manipulating them, as opposed to just trekking across the jungle and occasionally pointing guns at people. Their lack of curiosity has come to the point where it’s in direct opposition to their need to survive – they need to understand what is happening around them so they can know how to deal with it. And if they were searching for the answers the story of Jacob and Man in Black’s origin could have been delivered in a much more dynamic, satisfying way – a way that felt earned, not like an hour of crammed-in backstory.
But more importantly it makes the origin of MiB and Jacob have a bearing on the main Losties. Yes, the conflict between these two is what our characters are caught up in, but I have still never been able to care about Jacob or his brother because they’ve been personality-free late additions to the mythos. By having Jack or Sawyer or Kate care about who Jacob is, suddenly I care more because I have been following them for six years and, on some level, I automatically care about their goals. Lost has tried to do what The Wire did – keep pulling the frame back and include more, and make the scope bigger. It’s failed because unlike The Wire Lost has not successfully showed me how the different layers of the scope – ranging from Aaron to Jacob and from Jack to Widmore – are connected beyond “They’re all on or have been on the Island.” The Wire showed us an invisible web that made every element of Baltimore life interconnected; the way Lost has handled it would be as if Cheers had three different sets of characters at the bar, none of whom really interacted except by being at the same location.
And by the way, here’s a bonus way to have saved last night’s episode:
5) Write better.





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I disagree. I don't think the writing was any worse than Lost always has been, and I actually felt like the series would have been more interested if they just did shit like this for the entire six seasons instead of fannying around with a cast of three dozen shitty characters.
This. I actually think you're being too kind if anything. This show has devolved into a massive waste of time devoid of all the promise that once made it riveting TV all those years ago. I'm actually ANGRY over wasting my time on this show.
While I normally disagree with Devin, he is spot on with this. Last nights episode was a convoluted piece of shit that answered one and a half questions, and introduced a whole bunch more that will probably never be resolved.
I agree completely with your assessment of last night's episode Devin, but I think you're being too hard on seasons 4 and 5. This season has yet to give us an episode like "The Constant" or "The Shape of Things to Come." The show still had the power to thrill me at that point, but now I feel as if I'm watching out of a sense of obligation. This whole last season reminds me of Battlestar season 4 (minus the mutiny eps) – sloppy. (I'm not a BSG finale hater, by the way, I dug the God stuff, but it was pretty clear how shoehorned in all that prophecy stuff was)
But all that said, people who talk about how angry they are about how they "wasted their time" on previous episodes of a TV show that eventually let them down are assholes. There's an appropriate Simpsons anecdote regarding this – I won't bother to quote it.
Couldn't agree with you more. I'll also add they're waaaaay overdoing the white/black symbolism. "JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, JACOB IS THE GUY WHO WEARS WHITE AND HAS BLONDE HAIR AND USES THE WHITE GAME PIECES."
Point #4, to me, is the most important. It's always bothered me about the show that the characters have never seemed all that interested in learning about their environment. With the sudden insertion of Jacob and MiB in the last few seasons, now we're supposed to accept them as the chessmasters of this whole affair despite the fact that we have absolutely no investment in them AND the characters don't seem to care about them either way. I said this last week, and it only became more apparent this week: I don't believe for a minute that Lindelof and Cuse knew when they wrote the pilot that the Smoke Monster was the main villain of the series. It really feels to me like they were throwing a bunch of cool things out there (smoke monster, visions of dead people, voices in the jungle, etc) and decided they'd figure out how it all fit together later. Well, they did that. And the end result feels like a major retcon.
Couldn't agree more. Something was just…off about last nights episode. At least Ab Aeterno had a sense of weight and emotion behind it. Across the Sea was so emotionless and plodding, the writer's might as well have sat in front of the camera and read the script to us. And was it just me or did this episode seem to have the least amount of production value of any Lost episode ever. It felt very sound stagey even though I'm sure they shot on location.
I'm one of the fans that could give a shit about the little mysteries, I just want to know what the fuck the island is and it's purpose. The way the writers are going with all this Jacob/MIB drama is getting old. I truly believe this episode is the beginning of a very uninteresting and disappointing series finale. Allison Janney was shit and her character wasn't explained at all. I mean what's the point, so ok, she was the Jacob before Jacob, who gives a shit? I also hate how they made Jacob a sniveling little bitch.
This whole season being great or shit depends on these last couple episodes and if Across the Sea is any indication, were in for an epically awful end to a great series. I really hope I'm wrong but I am truly perplexed by the hour of Lost I have just witnessed. After this episode I just want the smoke monster to kill everyone, get off the island and have a Mai-Tai. Fuck the bullshit!
100 Fucking % Agree.
That cave of urine has ruined the series for me, I have loved it so far, I was so excited for the final stretch, but the second they turned around and saw that piss-stained fissure, I was done. A sign saying "Half arsed plot device" upon which jacob could beat his brother's brains out would have been more satisfying.
I have to see the final pieces before I make a statement that the episode is shitty. I also think Ab Aeterno is one of the finest episodes the series ever put out and I am definitely not alone on that.
So here's the reason I've grown increasingly frustrated with Devin over the years. I agree with most everything he says most of the time, and I agree with everything written in this column to varying degrees, but holy shit this is one of the most aggressively mean spirited articles I've read in a long time. I understand you don't like Lost, or Twilight, or Star Wars, or whateverthefuck else, but why spend so much time incessantly whining about these things? For someone so frustrated with fanwanking and fandom in general, he's virtually become the comic book guy from The Simpsons. The pretension that fuels an article like this makes it so that, even if I agree with the content, I'm still put off by the article. Congratulations, you really told those Lost people how it should've been done. I bet they're agonizing over their follies. This is why Devin's making the big bucks in Hollywood.
You are and have never been a fan of LOST. Anyone who does not get that episode is a viewer of LOST and not a fan. It's that simple, the line has been drawn, and you should walk away while you still have some semblance of dignity. Oh wait, I forgot, this is the same person who loved the ridiculous bs known as the BSG finale. Yeah, this is a total fail on your part.
I'm astounded by how weak and sloppy last night's episode was. I have no objections to veering off into a special hour of exposition, if done right – I thought "Ab Aeterno" was a fantastic episode that strengthened Alpert's character in ways that reverberate through what we've already seen of him. "Across The Sea" was filled with poor performances, lazy and inconsistent production values (oh, the cave goes dimmer at night, and floating bodies look comical going in), and a DULL story that could have been iconic. I felt like I was watching a random episode of Star Trek: Enterprise, as that's how this episode looked and sounded. I can't believe the producers didn't scrap this episode and just salvage a few minutes' worth for exposition, say, "Locke" illuminating Claire about only select pieces of his history. "Mother" was just an empty shell of a character – no sense of threat, motive, or emotional connection.
I have never been this disappointed with LOST before, and I have drastically lower expectations for the next two episodes.
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Devin is SPOT ON. This was an excruciating hour of narrative. Amateur writing from Cuselof, amateur performances, amateur production value, and a story that actually detracted from the mythos of this world as much as Nikki and Paulo. Here's the thing: we all know that at a certain point Cuselof and co sat down for a powwow and asked Dis for an endpoint. Like Devin said, this should have made a very clear turning point where our beloved heroes make their goal finding out about this place; how they're connected to it. Last night's ep was pure disconnected exposition. Episode I indeed, only more heartbreaking.
Devin, "write better" seems awfully petulant considering that I've never seen your name in the writing credits of a TV show. Certainly, any writer has highs and lows, but to simply imply that L&C are bad writers shows a pretty superficial understanding of what they're up to, or even what they're trying to accomplish. It reminds me of when my students read a novel from fifty or a hundred years ago and complain that the author is somehow unsuccessful because they're hard to understand. Bush league, bro.
You'd should listen to #5 of your own article titled: 4 WAYS TO HAVE SAVED LAST NIGHT'S CRAPPY EPISODE OF LOST
This was easily one of the best ep's of the season. I can't believe all of the hate it's getting.
AMEN.
prefacing the article by stating you enjoyed shitty endings, is a great way to let your readers know that you have awful taste. however, it doesnt make you credible. everyones entitled to an opinion, but atleast let the show end before you jump on the bandwagon of people who will claim to hate it… anything with a following, always has people who want to destroy its integrity. you just happen to be taking your shot at something greater than you.
AHAHAHA! Great article!
I strongly disagree and would like to submit that the worst episode of Lost is still better than Planet of the Fucking Apes.
At this point, the constantly nagging fear of failure is reaching critical mass. It's as though the old "I trust them to pull this out" is now reaching microscopic odds. I hate to say it, as much as I truly love this show… I am now expecting disappointment. Fuck.
Bravo, Devin. Bravo.
Devin, you defeat yourself so many times in this article it's laughable. 1) The fact that you like BSG's finale. 2) The fact that your 5th suggestion is "write better." 3) The horrible title of this article. And while it's all laughable, it's also alarming because numerous people apparently agree with you. I guess the MIB wins. Humanity is stupid. And the MIB's name? If you actually care about that… his name is Devin.
I CAME ON HERE AND READ AN OPINION OF MY OWN FREE WILL AND NOW I'M FUCKING PISSED ABOUT IT
I personally like Devin's articles but I disagree with him and all the others flaming Across the Sea. You all rip the cave of light yet if they never showed what was inside of the island and caused the light when the wheel was turned most of you would be screaming about how they never showed us what it was. Most of the people that are pissed with the explanation of how the smoke monster came to be were the ones that wanted it to be nanobots 5 years ago.
The characters' seeming inability to properly react to THE REALITY AROUND THEM has been a thorn in the side of this entire season. This single point has drained numerous important scenes of emotional impact. Latest example: The Smoke Monster's first appearance on the island after Jacob 'murders' his brother. I mean, Christ, I know this island is strange and all, but wouldn't a giant, self-propelled, hitherto unseen pillar of black smoke give even the most jaded island inhabitant pause? Jacob just noted it and walked away, as if it wasn't strange at all. His complete and total lack of dramatic reaction destroyed what should have been a significant scene. This is my major gripe with this season, one that Devin touches on multiple times in this completely accurate critique.
And the acting sucked.
There was so many good things bubbling under the surface of this episode, but they never came to fruition. Kind of disappointing.
I guess you also think the briefcase in Pulp Fiction was filled with urine. btw, Tarantino never explained what it is. I guess that drives you nuts, too doesn't it?
I liked this episode. Quite a bit actually. I don't understand the hatred, but like someone else stated I feel that the author of this article is jumping on the bandwagon of people that discredit a show(penned by actual writers, no less) because they make choices with the story that you wouldn't. This is part of the intense ego-mania that plagues the human race. The majority of people can't just enjoy something or dislike something, in this case a decent sci-fi story. They have to say things like "I wish they had made this choice", or "I would have done this with this" and so on. What happened to sitting back, having a story told to you, and just taking it in? Enjoy the ride, and until you create something credible and interesting, we don't care how you would have made it differently.
rjmcready you nailed it.
people are pissed when it doesn't do what they would do or how they would write it.
I am puzzled by the hate this episode is getting…the kid was very anakin-y I will agree but the series has always seemed heavy handed to me so i don't see why people are all of a sudden complaining about it
well I am enjoying this season. i love this show always have but i guess i am not as emotionally invested in it as others appear to be. some are taking it almost personally.
I have been bothered by the the character's lack of interest in trying to figure out what is going on rather than just running from scene to scene and seeing what happens. I am also bothered by the vague and sometimes retarded dialogue. The scene between Zoe and MiB comes to mind when she confronts him about kidnapping Desmond. Rather than tell ALL of the Losties what MiB did, she says we want what you took from us like it could be a can of coke or something. Across the Sea was an attempt by the writers to give an island history without actually giving any answers. I swear to Christ I thought I was watching Land of the Lost for most of he episode. Devin is on the money! It's almost impossible to give a shit about this history because the Losties don't even care enough to ask a question or two. The episode could have been so much better. Opportunities were wasted to show us egyptians, the 1st time Jacob sees Smokey, the arrival of Dharma or any REAL explanation of what happened when MiB went in the piss cave. I have rolled with Season 6 up to now, but this is almost insulting. There have been moments of the brilliance Lost is capable of, but they are few and far between. In light of the fact that the "answers" given in this episode were piss poor or given just to create more questions, I wish they hadn't made it. At least, in that case, the season would still have some momentum.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but on the point of no one being interested in the mysteries.
That's why I missed Mr. Eko the most. He was the only one interested in figuring out the island.
If they really cared, this episode should have been called, 'BEYOND the Sea' as a throwback to one of Rousseau's bizarre scribblings.
For me, the only way the episode works is if Mother is the original Smokey, and MIB turning into Smokey was her plan all along. Otherwise… yeah, all the info in this episode could have been better placed somewhere else.
Does it seem like the budget of this show got cut this year? It just feels so… small compared to other seasons, which is really bad when the scope of your story is at its widest. This season feels like it's been hampered, more than anything else, by budget constraints, and that's forced the writers to cut corners. Consider the lack of effects shots, or locations, or even a shrinkage of extras walking around. It just feels choked.
I actually like that they've made Jacob and Smokey actual humans with god-like powers rather than actual gods, because it will save us from YEARS of fanwank about their true origins. Loved that the two brothers represent the two basic types of lostie – those that have faith and those that ask questions, those that want to leave and those that want to stay. I'm totally on-side with the Smokester now while still feeling that Jacob got a few additional dimensions to his character. Great stuff. Loved the flip back to Jack and Kate in the cave. I love most of all that it's one-and-done – I'd gladly sacrifice the framing of flashback device and some aspects of info-dumping for that alone. Let's move on to the end.
People who think this show is actually going somewhere are hilarious. The ones who are pissed off when it doesn't are even funnier. You've all been had. Just accept it.
ALSO: FIX THE MOTHERFUCKING, SHIT SUCKING, GODDAMN, DRIED PISS CHIP VERIFICATION SYSTEM!!!!
Cheap bastards….
"Devin, "write better" seems awfully petulant considering that I've never seen your name in the writing credits of a TV show." — Fuck me, is that all you guys can come up with? That you're not allowed to criticize something unless you can do it better? Genius. So I'm not entitled to the opinion that "Episode I" sucked unless I can produce a better sci-fi opera. Love that shit.
Oh Devin, We all know you hate Lost. Let us enjoy our show!
Love the show. Love the episode. No one else liked it? Not my problem.
Personally, I don't know why anyone would bother attempting a show like this again. Not because it's difficult, but because it exposes you to the criticism of a bunch of OCD, minutia obsessed douchebags who only want the mysteries to be solved so they can bitch about the reveal.
Isn't it obvious that they are all dead, inside of some limbo between "heaven" and "hell" and that the last episode will flashback to the plane crashing, bringing back all your favorite characters and then showing that because of how they acted on the island…. a couple of them actually live…. and make it "off" the island? Again, I still have never watched an episode. Thank God!
Wow. Now that the show's coming to an end all the assholes have come back out of the woodwork. Go figure.
Love the show. Love the episode. No one else liked it? Not my problem. Personally, I don't know why anyone would bother attempting a show like this again. Not because it's difficult, but because it exposes you to the criticism of a bunch of OCD, minutia obsessed douchebags who only want the mysteries to be solved so they can bitch about the reveal.
Ugh.
Two Ways to Save Your Crappy Article:
1) Don't write it.
2) You're apparently a writer. Use things that writer's use, like proper grammar.
And, as a bonus…
3) Think better.
First, damn you for reminding me about the Jack tattoo episode. Another loose end.
Second, I have not heard anyone who liked the episode explain why. You all sound like the Metallica fans who were still buying their shitty albums even though you knew deep down inside the band had become shitty.
I still love the series, but unless the finale is the greatest stroke of writing genius in the history of television, this episode will stand as a major disappointment.
I figured by now we'd have at least a couple moments tantamount to the 'Walkabout' reveal from season 1. Not happening.
I personally liked the episode. All series long we've been introduced to characters that we thought had some kind of idea as to what's going on and now we know that nobody has the answers and it's quite an ingenious way to show us that the answers don't matter and never did. If a majority of the characters don't care why should we? I feel it's obvious the mysteries were only ever supposed to create atmosphere and enhance the setting and not to advance the overall narrative. If you already dislike the fact that Smokey was born in a peepee cave why would you be clamoring to know "how" it happened in addition to that since you already don't care? And to say that none of the characters are interested in what's going on? It's obvious as all fucking hell that at least Jack is 100% invested in The Island. His approach is just a little less "proactive" than most of you haters would like. Yes, Devin is an elitist snob
Yep – way too far along in the series for something like this. Four hours of original programming left, and they burn a half hour on two shitty child actors (one of which looks like he just auditioned for "High School Musical: The Emo Years) and a boatload of downright stupid "theories." Here's an actual quote from the scriptwriter's meeting for this episode: "Boys – we're FUCKED. What do we do?"
People that watch "Lost" are idiots. You know why they don't ever give you any answers? Because the dickheads that write that show don't have any answers. They're just making that shit up as they go along. They always have been. I remember when that show first came on and almost everyone on planet Earth was trying to figure out what the numbers meant. Theories upon theories were created, discussions and debates raged and then finally one of the guys that worked on the show said "oh, the numbers don't really mean anything". Yeah. That's when I knew that watching that show would be a complete waste of time, so I never bothered to watch any more than one muddled episode. You nerds are trying to solve a puzzle that's missing most of it's pieces and it's pointless. They've been stretching this crap out for as long as they can and they'll keep stretching it out as long as you geeks keep watching, blindly hoping for your precious Answers that don't even exist. All the hours you've spent watching this garbage have been a waste. Grow up and move on, losers.
One bad episode in a otherwise great season and it seals the show's fate for you? What the hell is your problem?
I completely hated this episode. I don't care about answers, and even if I did, the answers that this episode provides are totally lame.
Lost has always been shit.
Agreed about this episode. Completely disagree about the show as a whole. Across the Sea was a giant misstep approaching the end of a stellar show. Just my opinion…
Look, another comments section of a CHUD article filled with comments from people who think something is either completely brilliant or it sucks. I keep forgetting that there's no middle ground on the internet. Oh, and telling others to "grow up" when you spend your free time posting a long angry message about a show you don't even care about (and have only seen one episode of) is the definition of irony. Yea, they've made something like 120 episodes of this show, a few of them are going to suck. Tuesday's was one of those episodes. It's entertainment, people, not life or death.
Oh, great. Another article designed to get people talking about Devin, with a message board full of people telling Devin how great he is. That's what CHUD has become.
I guess I'm missing something. I thought it was a good episode.
Apparently, Lindelof and Cuse think the episode – not to mention the whole season – is just perfect:
http://shar.es/mhPHM
It's kinda funny that ANYONE cares about Devin's opinion. And yet here I am, posting on one of Devin's hate squeals. Hmm.
not that I liked the episode as much as I wanted, which of course shows a bias on my part to defend it, but I thought the logic of the episode, more than the writing, was very interesting.
Take for instance: "Every question you ask will just lead to another question."
We can view that as a bullshit answer to questions that have become, because they have bullshit answers, bullshit.
Or…
-What came before the Big Bang?
-I don't know.
-Well, might someone have set that hot, dense matter to exploding for a reason?
-Maybe.
-How do we find out?
-You can't, but look at this wonderful, odd, and perplexing stuff it produced.
I see the piss-colored light in the cave (mythology of the cave vs mythology of the sun. Light and Dark) as something similar to the Big Bang, an object through which something extraordinary is made possible.
Also from last night's episode: "Everything dies!"
If that's true, does it support the notion that the creator might also have died? Doesn't that make more sense than concrete answers.
I personally LOVE ambiguity. Ambiguity, if done properly and I suppose that's has a lot to do with the debate brewing above, reflects more accurately the world we live in, which creates characters who must learn to exist in a world where most answers will simply remain questions.
Devin thinks the BSG finale was brilliant!?
To the lovers: instead of questioning the critics – respond to the criticism – why the fuck do you think the episode was good?<br>oh, and the BSG-ending sucked – God did it my ass…
I love Lost, but that was a bad episode (half-assed). I have really enjoyed the other other episodes this season, It is the highlander 2 of episodes.
Okay, I was one of the people nonpulssed by the episode. But I was making the assumption that everyone else is, that it's meant to be one of the "Mystery Answering" episodes as opposed to a Theme Underlining episode. Lindelof and Cuse have been quoted as saying that this season would show the spiritual side of LOST. Well, focusing on that, what's being underlined? We have a FALSE mother who LIES to her "children", and values LYING in one of her "children". Should we really trust ANYTHING she says about the Island, the magic light? She's a liar. So maybe being disappointed in the episode is premature, if it's all a big lie. She gets REPEATED "smoke monster" musical cues (the same creepy music Smoke-Locke gets) all through the episode, and apparently goes all smokey on Blackie's adopted tribe. She says the light is supposed to be beautiful and warm, and that all people have a bit of it inside them, but that they should NOT be allowed to try and find more of it…. if the Light is God, or Brahma, or whatever benevolent spiritual force one imagines, isn't this advice a little suspect? Something that maybe a Devil might say? Or if you come from it from a Secular Humanist point of view, is she warning against trying to control the source of individual creativity and freedom by "controlling the light" in the way organized religions try to speak for God, and this stifles human creativity and freedom and hope? But I really think they are going for the Crazy Roman Lady as being a previous incarnation of the Smoke Monster. Everything she says is suspect. Maybe Blackie could leave the island, had she not stopped him. Maybe Jacob is not destined to be the island's caretaker. The smoke monster created by Jacob's murder of Blackie is created from JACOB's rage, not Blackie's. Blackie was all penitent and sad about having killed his "mother", the former Smokie. I'm not sure where they are going with this, but after a few reviews, and much thinking, and reading other's thoughts, I feel that this is what the writers were going for, and were perhaps too clever, or spiritual, for their own good. People just aren't educated to pick up spiritual themes, and it plays to most like some giant ball of nothing going on. I think it was a bit more complicated than that. Hopefully, the deceptive nature of Mother Smokey will be revealed, and the true origin of Smokey will also be revealed as coming from Jacob's rage, belief, and guilt, as manipulated by Mother Smokey. Quite plausibly, if Jacob had disbelieved her and trustingly gone into the light himself, no Smokey would have emerged.
Marko – nice work. I've been thinking about the mirroring of roles too. A lot of that makes sense. I was also thinking that "Fake Crazy Mom" (REALLY reminiscent of Rousseau) was lying about the Vikings and that "Real Dead Mom" was from yet another wreck. People have just been washing up forever and some of them fall into the different role-types we've seen played out through the series.
No one can intelligently defend this episode. I read through the comments, trying to find someone that liked the episode, and could articulate why, and all I could find are the types that say "turn your brain off and enjoy the ride", and people that hate Devin.
So I throw down the gauntlet! Sell me on this episode!
I completely agree with marko but when you said "Hopefully, the deceptive nature of Mother Smokey will be revealed, and the true origin of Smokey will also be revealed as coming from Jacob's rage, belief, and guilt, as manipulated by Mother Smokey." I think that this episode did just that. and this show is filled with deceptive liars who lie constantly to deceive and manipulate each other. When people forget that this show has more lies in it than bush and obama have ever even thought of telling they can over look alot of things, it's kinda ridiculous how much these characters lie, now that I think about the writers have probably been lying to audience for the past six years and the finale will probably be a symbolic debate over the meaning of the word is and I will be satisfied with it because i LOVE this shit. highly entertaining indeed.
Stop adding mystery unto mystery. You need to make it way simpler than it is, even if it means shortening the show. Adding more and more crap is why I left after the second season.
When I see "I left after the [fill in the blank] season," I don't take you seriously. Because you have no right to an opinion about anything that followed your abandonment. This article was about the latest episode. If you left at Season 2 you have NOTHING to say about it and are wasting everybody's time.
We cared about the Dharma Initiative and the Others because the characters we love cared about them. It was integral to the mystery and narrative. This episode did not develope the plot, and only thickened the mythology when the plot needs to be sped up and the mythology explained. Also..Lost fans have not needed literal explanations (such as the cut backs to season 1) for six seasons, it doesnt need it fucking now; the show normally takes pride in this.. I dont want to be completely negative, but my arse is falling out. It leaves me less proud to be a Lost fan and sign off with Namaste. But in hopes of being as suprised as Locke when opening the 'magic box'…namaste.
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