Watching the extended (and often breathtaking) trailer for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows at Comic Con on Saturday a thought crossed my mind – could this be when Harry Potter goes for the Oscar?
The series has been in competition for some categories in the past, but it’s never made it into the Best Picture race. Which is understandable, as I don’t know that many (if any) of the films to date have been worthy. There was some talk about Half Blood Prince (which I sort of agreed with), especially when the Best Picture category opened up to ten films, but it never came to pass. But now Deathly Hallows looks like something altogether different, and I wonder if the series’ time hasn’t finally come.
What was most impressive about the footage show at Con was the sweep and scale of it, contrasted with the emotion. What we saw looked like a Harry Potter film, but it didn’t have the standard look of a Potter movie. The film looks huge and completely epic. Director David Yates has changed up the cinematography for scenes in the first part, using handheld to create a shaky, unsteady atmosphere around Harry, Ron and Hermione as they go on the run. And more than that even in the few scenes we saw the tone was dark, raw and elegiac. There’s power in the imagery and in the finality. Yates imbues the scenes with a sense of danger that was missing from the other chapters because they were, quite simply, not the finale. It’s adult, but in a way that feels totally consistent with the growth of the series.
It looks to me like the two parts of Deathly Hallows are in the running for the best of the series. But what about Best Picture? Having not seen the films I can’t argue anything on merit, but I can argue on larger issues. There has never been a film series quite like the Harry Potter films. They’re fantasy adventure versions of Michael Apted’s Up films, and they’re a triumph purely as achievements. Not only did the series keep the same cast, allowing the young actors to grow with their roles, it’s actually a series where the films got better as they went along. It’s the inverse of standard sequel business, and it’s been inspiring to watch a popular, mainstream film series maintain a level of quality from picture to picture, and to even try to top itself again and again. You can argue which film is best or your favorite, but the sheer reality is that there has almost never been a part 6 of a series as well made as Half Blood Prince. It’s remarkable.
And that’s a big part of what could be earning one of these films a spot on The Ten. Remember, Best Picture goes to the producer, and the Academy could very well be looking to honor the producers of this series for what they accomplished. It’s like the Return of the King Oscar – I’m not sure they gave it to the movie for the movie, because I think they gave it to the movie for the trilogy. An Oscar (or just a nom – I think unless Deathly Hallows really, really surprises it has no actual chance at winning) for one of the final two wouldn’t be just for the nominated film but rather for the entire series as a whole.
There are roadblocks. The Academy doesn’t like sequels. The Academy is a bit biased against genre pictures. And even if those can be overcome (Warner Bros is already selling the films as the culmination of a saga, which feels more prestigious than just another sequel), the question of which picture should get the nod complicates things. The first film will likely have a large amount of emotional content, and will feel very, very unlike previous Potter films. In the Comic Con footage we saw Ron and Harry fighting as the pressures of being on the run ate away at them, and we saw our heroes battle dark wizards in a very Muggle diner. This is the film that’s probably going to feel almost experimental when placed up against the rest of the series, with a darker emotional edge and with a grittier focus. But then there’s Part II, which looks to be just huge, and to balance emotion with overwhelming spectacle.
Even if the Academy doesn’t wake up from their geriatric slumber to recognize one of popular cinema’s greatest longform triumphs, the fans will be more than pleased. The final two films look to be as grand and as exhilarating as we had hoped. I was stirred and deeply moved by the few minutes I saw in Hall H; I can’t wait to see how deeply the full films touch me.





36 comments
"could this be when Harry Potter goes for the Oscar?"
No.
I'm not a fanboy, but I'm a pretty big fan of the books and films. But there's no way in Hell HP'd ever get recognized for an Oscar, regardless of any argument you could muster.
Hah. Hated Batman Begins, but thinks that a Harry Potter movie could get Oscar consideration. Hysterical.
I think the bigger issue is giving a Best Picture Oscar (R) for any other reason than, you know, being the BEST PICTURE. Your acceptance of the useless politics of the Oscar is disheartening.
I'm totally with you on the Half Blood Prince love train. That movie is the Potter flick Truffaut would have made. They somehow smuggled in a British/French New Wave flick with some old-fashioned Val Lewton-style moodiness under the guise of a Potter movie. It's a bizarre mashup of styles, like Adventureland meets Where/Wild Things Are meets Jacques Tourneur's Cat People. There probably isn't a more underrated movie that has grossed a billion dollars world wide.
The problem is, every HP movie is interchangeable. I've seen them all, and couldn't tell the diffference between them (each is "Harry has to deal with some great unseen threat, his friends come along to do all the real brainwork, and there's a new professor for comic relief"). So yeah, I'm not seeing a statue here beyond tech.
"Even if the Academy doesn't wake up from their geriatric slumber to recognize one of popular cinema's greatest longform triumphs…"
Harumph! What about Scorsese? And to call Harry Potter one of the greatest cinematic longform triumphs is just wrong. They rake in cash, but for a film to be a triumph, it needs more than $ at the box-office. It needs actual depth and emotion, something that HP really lacks in my opinion. I have read them all and the books are pretty good, but the films? Not my thing at all.
I don't think it's a longshot for an HP flick to fet a nom- especially with the extended 10 slots- but I am curious as to what other film series has a part 6 well made? You said "almost", so I'm curious if you had a particular example in mind.
If it's of the quality of part 6, then yes, it's very possible. And comment #3 please learn to recognize the difference between "what it's about" and "how it's about." Yes, Batman is awesome. We all know this. And to you Harry Potter seems like pussy footing kids fodder. If you haven't read the books I don't blame you for assuming so cause that's what they seem like on the outside. But Batman Begins was executed poorly in big stretches and Harry Potter 6 was executed briliantly. In terms of pure filmmaking, Devin is correct. So please, by all means, understand the most basic concept of it's now what it's about it's how it's about. It's the foundation of, well, pretty much all art forms.
I'd LOVE to see DH pt2 win Best Picture as an acknowledgment to the entire series… but I think it's unlikely. But in the end, as long as we the fans have an epic finale that lives up to the books, I think accolades are irrelevant.
Most sequels (and I mean real sequels, not just sequels in name alone), good or bad, usually aren't very self-contained. I've always thought that for a film to be worthy of Best Picture, it needs to stand alone and be it's own film. I thought it was bullshit when "Return of the King" won everything after the previous installments had not, but to be fair, at the least the others had been nominated too. Harry Potter, with 6 films so far, has that many more loose ends and unresolved plot points, and it will be a crime if Harry Potter 7 and/or 7.5 beat out an excellent stand-alone film that has a definite beginning, middle, and end, not to mention fully realized character arcs.
A nomination, probably a bunch up to and including BP, is a foregone conclusion for at least the final one. The Oscars are above all else about celebrating the people doing right by the business, and you don't get a bigger producer-driven, "howd-they-pull-this-off" success than the Potter run. They'll be nominated, there'll be "retrospective montages," they'll drag those kids up onstage to stand in front of giant projections of their faces as 9 year-olds… by the time the 2012 Oscars are done with you're gonna be sick to DEATH of the Red Carpet Arrangement of the Potter theme your ears will be bleeding.
Sometimes I feel like people that leave comments here haven't even read the article…
Sorry, none of these movies make any sense as movies. You need to have read the books, which isn't surprising as they were made for people who have read the books, not to further the art and scope of cinema.
Are u high? Part 6 was the worst of the bunch. The best book but that hack tv director turned it into a fluff paint by numbers dtv movie. Crystal skull had more emtional weight.
of course it will be running for the Oscars® — with that stupid 10 movies list they're using nowadays..
HARRY POTTER DESERVES TO WIN.WHY??? BECAUSE ITS THE BEST FRANCHISE OUT THERE WAKE UP PPL!!!! DEATHLY HALLOWS SOUNDS EPIC AS HELL…I REALLY CANT WAIT,THIS WILL BLOW EVERYONES MINDS AWAY!!!!!!!
No. Nope. No.
Ehh, maybe. I don't see it happening, though. It would be nice to recognize it, though, at the Oscars because the movies have made a large impact. 6 movies in and none have received terrible scores (all of them have 75%+ on Rotten Tomatoes … not that RT means a lot). I don't see DH1 or 2 receiving Best Picture (other awards … possibly, but not Best Picture) but I feel the series should still be recognized for its success.
Meh. Harry Potter is still nothing more than a big budget Scooby Doo cartoon. "I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you darned wizards!"
Harry potter may not win an Oscar, but it will hopefully do the greatest book of all time some justice.
Well, although I think it is almost impossible for Harry Potter to win Best Picture, the franchise, with no doubt is very successful commercially and critically, no movie in the franchise has been bad, all 6 have been good, and I think the series is very unappreciated in that sense, that they all have quality in them, of course they are not going to be just like the books, it is an adaptation, not everything can fit in the movies, and besides all the major plot points are in them, anyways, if the last movies don't get an Oscar or at least a nod, they should at least be recognized for what they are, an extremely successful franchise.
If a Harry Potter movie comes anywhere near an Oscar, I will be done with the Oscars, and possibly with movies.
@Bah WTF? I bet you haven't read the books or appreciated the films for what they truly are you miserable old sod. And that goes to the rest of you who are disrespecting Harry Potter. Stop being SO CYNICAL for christ's sake. If Deathly Hallows is as grand as it sounds then yes, it could possibly have hope to succeed. And none, NONE, of you depressed cynics will be able defeat the wonderful, epic story of Harry Potter.
I agree that the movies get better with each one, with the exception of The Goblet of Fire. I thought it was a really poor portrayal of teen angst and they fell into every cliché there is on the topic. I haven't read every book and I am not ashamed nor do I feel I have to. And to some extent I am glad I didn't. Because I can enjoy the movies for what they are. And I agree with DF that they are quality films.
Devin, I love you for this article. Like you, I was totally blown away by Half-Blood Prince. Things have come a long way since those first two, terrible films. (The posters above who can't tell the films apart, or think that the films are emotionless are letting their own personal baggage stop them from seeing what's up on the screen.) I think us fans of the last few films are most of all thinking 'I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT FILM COMES OUT' because it looks like the series it continuing to grow up. Oscar is nice and all, but my hope is that these films are going to be better than the kinds of films that usually win awards. I've never smelt the stench of Oscar-bait with this series – as I did with RETURN OF THE KING – and it would be a shame if that changed.
I think that they could do it this year. Being that I have read all the books, I can say that this is were all the emotions, action, and high points come to gether and make a truly good ending to a very well done Oscar winning movie
Won't get an Oscar. 1. The story of the final book is divided into two, which will be unsatisfying for most viewers and critics. 2. The book that it is based on was pretty disappointing for a lot of Potter fans, who feel Rowling kinda copped out and delivered a feel-good pandering bit of wrap-up which reeked of creative fatigue. NOW, as to what Devin describes from the footage he's seen … "using handheld to create a shaky, unsteady atmosphere around Harry, Ron and Hermione as they go on the run." That's considered Oscar Worthy? Hasn't the general movie-watching culture become sick of shaky cam? I don't see that impressing anyone. "This is the film that's probably going to feel almost experimental when placed up against the rest of the series, with a darker emotional edge and with a grittier focus." — So it's going to be the Dark Knifht of Potter films? I don't think so. And as for Devin using the "geriatric" insult against the academy, implying that a failure to award the last (last 2?) Potter film(s) is due to being old and senile, he should beware of living in a glass house, and being discounted because of Geekgasming hysteria over a rather infantile and pandering book series.
This is a fact the people who hate on the visually and emotionally represented artistic quality to these films and totally reject it are all just intimidated that this series is so critically loved and they dont know why???? because your afraid to go in with your hearts. I grew up with these characters and have loved the more raw romance side of things and just deep touches, more than any of the splendid magical visual quality that has a growing but consistent style that is a homage to the elegant black and white classics, for a fan of the books and the movies, its pretty obvious that the last two films will almost unanimously blow away audiences including the ones who couldn't open their minds and hearts and let the magic in before!!!!! I'd compare these upcoming conclusion films to tarantino's kill bill. honestly, I feel that David Yates has impressed me so much from the fifth movie to the sixth movie that i rooted for the new director to finish the series and this just comin from a fan of great movies and a hater of bad ones. things to love out of potter= superior acting from film to film by a huge cast, all top notch-thrilling action and magical depth brought to life–all emotions tossed in, laughter, sadness, heartbreak, pain, loss of control, hopelessness, never giving up hope…. all the things human beings feel. The movies are metaphors for many things like the toy story series and i think they beat out 007 as my favorite series of alllll time.
Forget Best Picture, but Daniel Radcliffe clearly deserves an acting award — if it's for Best Imitation of a Stuffed Herring.
I am constantly amazed how Devin sticks by these films. I agree with whoever above said that Part 6 was the worst. As the films have gone on (certainly parts 5 and 6) I have become less and less impressed and less emotionally involved with the characters. IF you are a fan of the books I'm sure these films work great as companion pieces (I'll argue that the LOTR films work best as that too) but as films that stand up by themselves – no. Yes, it's quite an achievement what they have done with this series, to get them all made so quickly and competently with the same cast and the likes. But Oscar dreams? Crikey, I think you are dreaming there Devin. Unless they invent one of those special ones that don't really count.
Oh God, Devin. Where to begin? *sigh* Just cut the Potter crap, will you? People are starting to feel embarassed by just reading this junk.
"You can argue which film is best or your favorite, but the sheer reality is that there has almost never been a part 6 of a series as well made as Half Blood Prince. It's remarkable." Yeah, but what about Leonard Part 6, that ruled!
Srsly? The… No. Forget it.
Go Devin, I completely agree with you. I think Potter got a chance in the Oscars. keep on writing this article amidst all these rubbish.
I seriously HATE how people become so negative when somebody mentions Harry Potter. Its not some overrated, overdone, Hollywood crap. Its a brilliant story.
One Oscar that NEEDS to be given to the Potter series is Art Direction for Stuart Craig. Thats LONG over due.
Just read this. I saw somebody say it to people like all of you, and its so true:
"That which you do not value, you takes no trouble to comprehend. You know and understand nothing. Nothing. These stories aren't just overrated junk that Hollywood is just spewing out for money. Its an actual story of love, loyalty, and innocence. With much more to be found also.
This is a truth that people like you have never grasped. So don't start complain about wanting this to end or that they're overdone. If you are truly tired of it, then don't whine to us about it cause these last two movies are for those of us that actually tuck with Harry and want to see his journey end."
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