| Film | Weekend | Per | Total | |
| 1 | The Expendables | $35,030,000 | $10,713 | $35,030,000 |
| 2 | Eat Pray Love | $23,700,000 | $7,690 | $23,700,000 |
| 3 | The Other Guys | $18,000,000 (-49.4%) | $4,930 | $70,543,000 |
| 4 | Inception | $11,370,000 (-38.6%) | $3,644 | $248,554,000 |
| 5 | Scott Pilgrim vs. the World | $10,525,000 | $3,735 | $10,525,000 |
| 6 | Despicable Me | $6,767,000 (-27.1%) | $2,315 | $221,993,000 |
| 7 | Step Up 3-D | $6,626,000 (-58.1%) | $2,717 | $29,565,000 |
| 8 | Salt | $6,350,000 (-41.8%) | $2,241 | $103,569,000 |
| 9 | Dinner for Schmucks | $6,316,000 (-39.1%) | $2,074 | $58,816,000 |
| 10 | Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore | $4,075,000 (-41.0%) | $1,494 | $35,104,000 |
This just in: A man was lost in an echo chamber for three years, thought to be dead, he survived only on haterade.
The Expendables got their weekend. I think David Poland was right on the money by comparing this to a Vs. film. Freddy Vs. Jason, Alien Vs. Predator, etc. It’s what you do when you don’t know what to do with franchises any more. And it’s led a number to joke that this is the first weekend in a long time that Eric Roberts has outperformed Julia Roberts. But at the end of the day (regardless of quality) we know how films like Eat Pray Love do, and it’s not an opening weekend picture. It – of all the rest of the summer films – has a real shot of doing over a $100 million dollars. The Expendables should be able to get over $50 million, maybe $60-$80, but anything over that is stretching. If it doesn’t drop 70% next weekend it’s kind of a miracle. Whereas Eat should fall less than 30% or its core audience rejected it. Hell, by Monday it’s probably going to be outperforming The Expendables on a daily basis.
As for Scott Pilgrim, when I talked to Peter Serafinowicz, he brought up that there can’t be The Beatles again because there’s no longer one big audience, instead there are numerous small audiences. Cinema is one of the rare places that there is a global discussion. But that said, the discussion of cinema – much like politics – has also fallen into a number of partisan divides. As such you can see a lot of different partisans reactions to this number. And even though much of the technology in Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World is antiquated, the film has been labeled “of the moment” or “new,” or perhaps even worse “generational.” Which is partly true: If you’re on the twitter, the film is still one of the top trenders, but the film obviously connected only with a segment of its intended viewing audience. There’s been a strange amount of crowing about these numbers, I guess partly because of the Cera backlash. Opening weekends are about marketing, and I think Universal did a number of smart things that didn’t work – and probably having the main image of the ad campaign hiding the star’s face was not the wisest of moves. And though it’s possible the film won’t drop 50% or more next weekend, the battle is over, unless Pilgrim somehow manages to do something few films have ever done (that is: have an amazing second weekend). But other people – not me – are going to start dropping the “bomb” word so even if the film drops 30% next weekend (which would be a miracle), it’s still not great business, and when a film is a perceived failure the curious tend to stay away. It seems as though the audience this connects to loves the movie, so this may be a big ancillary title eventually. But predicting that is near impossible. The cult for Zach Snyder’s Watchmen isn’t exactly there yet. I think Pilgrim hits resonate notes, but you never know.
The thing that strikes me as odd is that we’re at a point (and this isn’t the first or last) where if a number of people – especially on the internet – flip for a movie it becomes not about the film but about how the internet has been bought, or that the film is destined to failure because it’s being so revered. When it comes to films like this – small, awkward movies that need their champions – there is a segment of the audience (however big) who automatically says “I don’t believe you.” This ties into how press has changed, and – especially when it comes to internet film sites – there is little sense of authority. Growing up, reading newspapers, all critics were older than you – possibly more learned than you (and they have copy editors!), and the newspaper was a respected tradition. And especially in the pre-internet age, there was only your local newspaper, maybe some magazines and TV critics that you could hear about films, unless you got a number of different newspaper subscriptions. With the internet there are so many voices along with a sense that everyone started from nothing (possibly a parent’s basement), which leads to a perceived lack of authority. And – especially with the origins of this world (re: Harry Knowles) – there is a sense of chumminess with talent and the perception that the internet can be easily seduced. And when you have someone like Alex Billington, who – not to dwell on the accusations leveled against him by others – obviously knows very little to nothing about the history of cinema, you’re not going to get a learned perspective, but his is a voice that is heard by an audience that may actually listen to what he says.This begs the question: what do people get out of that? My assumption – like Fox News or Rachel Maddow, etc. is affirmation of beliefs. And there is obviously an audience for that. I don’t know if this is cheapening the discourse or whatever, but as I’ve said before, reviewing movies is a political act, and so is seeing movies. Audience vote with their dollars. And one of the great tricks that the studios have pulled is virtually eliminating the need for criticism. “Fuck you, I’m gonna eat my McDonald’s anyway.”
The Other Guys didn’t tumble over 50%, which is good for its run at $100 Million. It should be able to hit that number, but it’s got some competition next week (along with a general onslaught of titles). I think this is the sort of picture that an unrated DVD and Blu-ray actually does move off the shelves, so the math on its production budget is skewed. This might also have a bigger foreign audience because of its supporting cast than the other Ferrell/McKay titles. Inception is still holding well even though it’s beginning to lose screens, its biggest problem is the sheer number of titles coming over the next couple of weeks. But next weekend, I’d be surprised if it doesn’t do round $10-ish, so that’s a bit over $260 million. Even with piracy issues, I’m sure Warners is gearing up for an Oscar push, so we may yet see a re-release, and maybe they hold video until February,so $300 isn’t out of the question.
Everything else is done. Step Up 3-D might limp to $40 Million, but it was a gimme. Salt gets to $110, but that’s about it. Schmucks is a quiet failure, and Cats and Dogs looks like a huge bomb. Next week offers five pictures, most of which should be able to chart, which means that most of these films are done. Only The Switch seems to have the possibility to open outside of the top ten. I think it’s the “drinking semen” advertising.





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Wow, a crappy movie based on an even crappier comic book only attracted that little group of hipster douchebags it was aimed at. SHOCKING!
*snicker*
Andre, I really may have been interested in seeing Scott P. But CHUD ran it into the ground. I know it wasn't done by you, but you hit the effect on the head… oversell something and people start to wonder, "why the hard sell?" And get skeptic.
I gotta say, as much as I hate to see a talent like Edgar Wright suffer, I'm glad Scott Pilgrim might be seen as a failure. Fuck hipster culture and its glorification.
Just curious why it's okay to say that Cats and Dogs "looks like a huge bomb" but you won't use the b word to describe Scott Pilgrim.
The situation looks pretty similar and I would argue that it even had higher expectations with all the unrelenting hype.
Stick a fork in Edgar Wright. He's DONE.
The fact that CHUD readers are so against an Edgar Wright movie is baffling to me.
i love how the comments so far are proving everything dre pointed out in the article. and to #3 – if you really won't see a movie because of the coverage it gets on chud, you really need to get a fucking life.
people that don't go see a great movie just because a website they visit talked about it too much are f'ing stupid.
that's like saying "I love big butts and jugs, and that Kim Kardashian really wants to bang me… but i'm gonna pass because i've seen her on US Weekly too much lately." lame dude.
SP fans are the new Browncoats. It's like deja vu all over again.
HAHAHAH. This site supported that piece of shit movie and now look at it! HAHAHA
People see youth having fun and suddenly they're hipsters. The problem is that marketing anything to nerds is a double edged sword. A goodly portion of them are spergers that will balk at anything emotional or unconventional.
Awesome that the comments above perfectly fit the theme of the article. Should have put a line "see comments below for examples" in the paragraph on Pilgrim.
@#3 People who see a bunch of positive reviews, and think, "That must be a terrible movie," are complete morons. Scott Pilgrim is the best movie of the year, and your not going to see it because it got GOOD reviews???? Where is the logic in this reasoning? I have some advice for the dumbasses of the movie viewing world. Watch a movie and make up your own damn mind. You, yourself, said you would've been interested except CHUD "ran it into the ground." Imagine that. A movie website ran stories on a new movie that it's readers would love (if they fucking watched it). I appreciated all the coverage myself. I personally avoid actual reviews though until I see the movie myself. If your going to read a review though, it makes no sense to read a positive review (several positive reviews from many different sites in Pilgrims case), and then say, "Well, that must suck." What the fuck is wrong with you people? Shut your fucking mouth and go watch the best movie of the year. Now.
Prior to this weekend I was expecting to love The Expendables and despise Scott Pilgrim. But after seeing both, I can honestly say I was surprised to find Scott Pilgrim the better, more entertaining film. Expendables was a huge disappointment that had epic potential….it's too bad the choppy action & editing were shit, leaving us with cheesy forced dialogue and a non-existent plot to sit through. Scott Pilgrim though I was not expecting great things from, and I came out of it fully satisfied. It was funny, exciting, and full of great visuals. While it may end up being a box office dud right now, I have no doubt it'll end up being a big cult classic in the near future.
"Awesome that the comments above perfectly fit the theme of the article. Should have put a line "see comments below for examples" in the paragraph on Pilgrim."
Indeed…
"Andre, I really may have been interested in seeing Scott P. But CHUD ran it into the ground. I know it wasn't done by you, but you hit the effect on the head… oversell something and people start to wonder, "why the hard sell?" And get skeptic."
It's always amusing when people make this type of comment, trying to make it out like their so open to watching movies of all kinds. If only it wasn't for X, I would have totally checked this one out. Because I like this kind of movie. All sorts of movies. My tastes are so eclectic and hugely interesting.
Whatever, you weren't interested in the movie. Your disinterest is not the result of a conspiracy to trick you into seeing a movie. You looked at the trailer and it didn't sell you on it. Nothing you heard or saw about it up until the release sold you on it. Own your disinterest and selective tastes, or whatever inarticulate unjustifiable aversion is rattling around inside your head.
If you had really wanted to see it, people being excited about it would not have dissuaded you. It's stupid and silly posturing to say otherwise.
It's definitely about marketing and the film trailers, plus personal taste. If a movie looks interesting to you, no matter what anyone critiques on it, then you will go see it. People have free will; they can choose to do whatever they want with their dollars. To assume that people will go see a movie because of very good reviews is not the case. This film is geared toward a certain type of audience, and did anyone expect that the most of the general public knew about the Scott Pilgrim books? probably not. maybe years later this film should have been made, to garner a following and wider interest.
Scott Pilgrim seems to have really brought out the hater in many geeks – causing people to (ironically) act like bigger douches than the hipsters they deride. I don't even really know what a hipster is – it's not a term that's used in my country. Haven't seen SP yet, but I will because it looks entertaining, it's had positive reviews from folks I usually agree with and I've loved everything from Edgar Wright so far. I've never read the source material so I'm not coming in with the heavy baggage that seems to be weighing a lot of folks down on this film. In the end though, it almost gives me an existential uncertainty as to whether or not I'm one of those hipster douchebags that all the hater douchebags have been banging on about so much lately.
Why are people so happy about this movies failures? I mean did it do something to personally? I loved the movie and im a 28 year old african american male far removed from any supposed hipster label and i like video games but never really loved them. But Scott Pilgrim just looked like a lot of fun and for me it was. I'm fine with people not liking it. It is their right. But why so much negativity for something that's really about fun and tapping into that child in you. It was a good time at the movies. I couldn't ask for more.
I don't understand how anyone between the ages of 20 – 35 wouldn't enjoy Scott Pilgram. I mean, didn't you have fun growing up? You didn't play video games? You didn't fall in love at least once? You didn't have your heart broken/ your life destroyed by another?You didn't dream of being in a rock band? What is in Scott Pilgram that could elicit such hate, such an enjoyment over it's box-office 'failure'? And "hipster?" – please. Another easy word for the lazy to latch on to. You 'haters' should see it for yourself – it's ok to smile and laugh and to enjoy visuals you've never seen before in a film. I love you all. And 'Expendables' was 1/4 of the movie it should have been.
All the comments have done here is proven that the only thing more annoying than hipsters are people that complain about hipsters. Especially when the hipsters are nowhere to be found. God, some of you people are losers.
Scott Pilgrim was the first movie I walked out on since I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry. And I'm someone who LIKES Edgar Wright's stuff. It's like Nerd Porn with it's crappy references and gaming nods. There's a fine line between catering to tastes and outright pandering to them. The Seinfeld scene was the last straw. I've never scene a movie so loved by bloggers and so completely shunned and reviled by most everyone else.
Speed Racer, Watchmen, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. I loved all three. I don't care how much money they made. The only good I see coming out of their low box office is no sequels, as none of them need them, but would have been forced into being made if they were huge hits.
The kind of bullshit condescension that's starting to roll out in light of this failure is pretty much quashed by Inception's success. Sure, Inception had a big name star, but the plot and story alone would be enough to turn the so-called mindless "mcDonalds eating" masses away. I had and have no interest in seeing SP because the trailer was terrible and the premise doesn't appeal to me one iota.
Yeah, I´m also sad to see a edgar wright project fail, but I am really glad to see SP bomb at the BO. It´s really really anoynig to go to a movie site (not only chud) and the writers pissing on good or great movies and saying "this movie is crap, go see scott pilgrim, now that´s a great movie" over and over again, and running every piece of story possible related to the damn thing.
I get the general negativism re: Cera and although it's a little more baffling to me why people hate on so-called hipsters so much, I can't get why people are hating on pilgrim so much, especially sight unseen. Given the low box office, it seems unlikely that all the hatred have actually seen the movie. I've seen it, and I thought it exceeded all expectations, especially since in hindsight, I've seen that the trailers don't do it justice (i.e. The trailers don't give away the best parts of the movie, which is more than I can say for most trailers these days). See it, and if you don't like it, then by all means, hate away. But don't-pre judge.
It also sounds like Andre is giving a subtle elbow to the face of all the "critics" on CHUD, since I'm assuming none of them are what we referred to as "learned" in the art of cinema. Sure they are enthusiasts and have seen way more movies than we (or at least I have), but what credentials do they really have? I'm not looking to start a Devin hatefest, but I feel that there is a thin line between the writers of this site and it's readership. It's an interesting question.
Anyways, I dare you to go see Scott Pilgrim and not like SOMETHING in it. And this is from someone whothibks hot fuzz was boring and Shaun of the dead is overrated.
I eagerly await Devin's editorial lamenting the fate of Scott Pilgrim.
People have a low tolerance for smugness, and that is what I think killed this movie. The trailers made this film very unappealing for mass audiences which is a shame.
Yeah, Devin did a countdown series of articles towards Inception and awarded it a 10 out of 10, and it is doing pretty great for its non-mainstream story. I just wasn't feeling Scott Pilgrim enough to see it in theaters. The hype on this site has only encouraged me to check it out on DVD.
I never heard of Scott Pilgrim before I saw the trailer. Unfortunately the trailer is why I didn't go see this movie. It's as simple as that.
@25: Are you seriously using Inception's success as a way of discounting Scott Pilgrim? "Sure, Inception had a big-name star?" Yeah, only one of the most popular, well-known actors in the world as well as the star of the most successful movie of all time. It was also marketed as being the next offering from the director of The Dark Knight. You know, another one of the most successful movies of all time. I think "from the director of The Dark Knight" resonates with the "McDonald's eating masses" a hell of a lot more than "from the director of Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz." Plus, I'd be willing to bet less than half of the people who went and saw Inception (at least on opening weekend) had any idea what the hell it was about beyond dreams. A ton of people wanted to see it solely because it looked cool. Look, if you don't have any interest in Scott Pilgrim, that's your right. But comparing its failure to Inception's success is just an asinine analogy.
I think everyone is forgetting who starred in this film: the talentless Michael Cera. I think the general oversaturation of Cera drove people away from this film. And Cera's only had one successful film: Juno. Superbad doesn't count because the McLovin character drove people to see that film not Cera
I just got back from seeing Scott Pilgrim. It's a metric fuckton of fun. If you don't see it because you're tired of the hype or because of some "get off of my lawn"-style hipster hatred, you're an idiot.
Edgar Wright is a talented filmmaker, and he just made a really good film. Buy tickets. Support it.
I didn't watch Pilgrim because the reviewers I trust gave it middling reviews, the word of mouth I heard from people I trust was terrible, and the trailers were incredibly bad. I do have to say though, that CHUD's and AICN's promotion of the film didn't HELP matters much, since it smelt so much like Kick Ass, a terrible film that was pimped to high heaven. Even though I like Edgar Wrights other efforts, everything about Pilgrim just screams "Wait for DVD". I don't get why the fanboys (people who've already developed an irrational devotion to a property before it's even been released) get so hurt over it's failure though. I'm also surprised that people are calling it a bomb, since just like Watchmen (a film I loved, btw) how big an audience could they have possibly expected to sell this to? It's a nice film, and even worse, it's core audience is hyper critical aspies who earn low incomes and pirate half their media anyway.
Great analysis once again Andre.
WB won't miss the November or Christmas push for Inception. I'd be pissed if I didn't have the Blu-ray of that movie in my hands before Christmas.
i have seen only the trailer but there is a sense of smugness to the movie and its (percieved) audience. failure can be a good thing for E Wright.
HAHAHA #5 Scott "The Game Changer" Pilgrim with a paltry $10mil. Somewhere, Devin is crying tears of butter into his Planet of the Apes bedsheet pillow…
I saw Scott Pilgrim twice this weekend. I haven't willfully seen a movie twice in the theater since Jurassic Park.
…and I was all ready to hate on Pilgrim too.
Good for Sly & friends.
Scott Pilgrim Vs. Substance = Bomb!
Really? My post got deleted… REALLY??
Anyone who doesn't think Scott Pilgrim is "hipster" is just plain deluded or way too close to that lifestyle to get it. It might be a fun movie on some level and I'm an Edgar Wright fan but Michael Cera sucks and is the least likable lead actor around. I will probably end up seeing it on Blu-ray when it comes out in 3 months. I saw The Expendables on Friday and the audience I saw it with "got it". Its not supposed to be rocket surgery. Its a big, dumb, fun summer action movie. Shit blows up, guns get fired, gore splatters, the bad guys die, one-liners are cracked. Could it have been a bit better? Sure. But the last 20 minutes are better than the entire sum of Live Free or Die Hard. I think Dellamorte is underestimating the possible repeat business it might end up doing. And of course its going to KILL overseas. After the great Rocky Balboa and Rambo films, if anyone deserves a real knock out of the park, its Stallone.
I think it was an over saturated market. For the people who were curious about scott pilgrim, or maybe even actually wanted to see it, the advertising was everywhere. Internet, commercials all over comic con. Im still going to see, but i feel like i can wait a little while.
SP's budget was $60 million before marketing costs, which have been considerable for such a modest movie. It will never be profitable, even after home video and TV. Everyone remember, it's okay to hate on a movie, just not one "Andre" likes. Oh, also, love the 5 fps frame rate on your weekly vid cast. Jesus, can't one of you afford a decent camera?
I'm just happy that movies like "Scott Pilgrim" get made at all. Ten yeas from now, all the cunts (and you are all a bunch of cunts, seriously kill yourselves) who claim to hate this flick sight unseen are going to be lying about how they loved it when everyone else hated it. For me, I'm just happy it got made. I'm hoping that a few more of these 'universally loathed' gems manage to sneak through the system while all the fucktards who write twenty pages of bullshit in defense of "Transformers" and anyone who hates a movie simply because a site unanimously likes it choke on their bile and fucking die. Preferably during a screening of "Transformers 3" so the actual stink will match what's on screen. Bunch of fucking worthless cunts.
The people who hate most fiercely on "hipsters" fit pretty well within the label themselves (help help a young person is threatening to be cooler than me get a policeman to stop this crime immediately). I don't get the hate on Cera at all–he's cute and charming and does quite well as the obliviously douchey Scott Pilgrim. Seems like the people who dislike him for being in too many movies are the same people who dislike any indie movie that gets good buzz. Those people are in for a massive coronary when everyone else discovers Scott Pilgrim on DVD in a couple of years.
It fills my heart with a warmness and such delight to see Scott Pilgrim perform the epic fail it was destined for. It does not take a rocket surgeon to figure out this movie had bomb written all over it. The legion of fat bearded internet reporters pimping this movie to high heaven only fueled the fires of the backlash. You nerds do not have the influence you think you do. Obey me and I shall show you the way!
"And when you have someone like Alex Billington, who – not to dwell on the accusations leveled against him by others – obviously knows very little to nothing about the history of cinema, you're not going to get a learned perspective, but his is a voice that is heard by an audience that may actually listen to what he says." – what you are failing to take into account is that many people who like watching movies don't feel the need to seriously study movies or their history, Dre. I would venture a guess that the vast majority of movie fans only go so far as reading whatever review(s)/watching whatever trailers they stumble upon and make up their mind based strictly on that. To most people, critics are interchangeable. There's just so damned many of them you see.
I think this shows that not only is CHud clueless about who their readers are, they are also clueless about how to pimp a movie. I mean literally for the last 6 or 7 months not a week has gone by without some Scott Pilgram pimping. Even the most diehard fan would get sick of it at somepoint. One need only to look at the verification system, which has been broke for over a year, to know that chud hates us.
I know it has been said before, but for all those who prematurely dismiss Scott Pilgrim as hipster trash without seeing it: you are missing out, simple as that. You are either missing out on having a ton of fun at the movies, or you are missing out on having a dissenting voice that is actually based on having the qualifications nessisary to even talk about the movie at hand. I have not seen a single comment that said anything along the lines of "I saw the movie and was disappointed.", only ones that say "See that bullshit that chud keeps hyping?! Get real!". I don't think it amounts to any kind of trespass of journalistic integrity to have an internet site devoted to championing movies that the creators like CHAMPION A MOVIE THAT THE CREATORS LIKE. If you are so determined to hate Scott Pilgrim without seeing it at least have the common curtesy to not pretend like it is YOU that is on the high horse. I am going to tell all my friends about Pilgrim and encourage them to see it, and that doesn't make a studio plant, or any kind of a tool it just makes me an enthusiastic film goer. I have seen Watchmen, Inglorious Basterds, and Kick Ass all at this sites recommendation, and I didn't like ANY of those movies very much, but its more worth it just have Pilgrim recommended to me. Its not as if this site ever pretended to be anything more than educated film fans talking candidly about their opinions and trying to make that small bit of difference in the turgid staleness of the mainstream industry. Anyway, if I can stand on my own soapbox, as someone who didn't like Hot Fuzz, and thought Shawn of the Dead wasn't too special, Scott Pilgrim is the most fun I have had at the movies in years. And if people recommend SP to you its not because its part of some weird hipster cult, its simply because they hope they can share something that they were really genuinely excited about and want you to have fun too. Get over yourselves and if you don't see it, don't come here to bitch about coverage.
"probably having the main image of the ad campaign hiding the star's face was not the wisest of moves." …. Andre, it was actually showing his face in the trailers that wasn't the wisest of moves. He came off as the douchiest of douches, and who wants to watch a movie about a douche, even if he gets slightly less douchey somehow by the end? …. "reviewing movies is a political act, and so is seeing movies. Audience vote with their dollars. And one of the great tricks that the studios have pulled is virtually eliminating the need for criticism. "Fuck you, I'm gonna eat my McDonald's anyway." …. This is a pretty dishonest assessment of the Scott Pilgrim situation, Andre. You are acting as if Scott Pilgrim was NOT a "studio film", when it pulled out all the studio tricks to get people to go see it, ad campaigns, inviting CRITICS like chud's to the set to get them to make friends with the director and cast and want to root for them. THAT was bypassing critics by basically employing them to serve the studios. And when the critics can't be trusted, audiences have to go by their own instincts, and they just didn't like Michael Cera, or any of the characters they were introduced to in the trailers. Are the audience REALLY supposed to take critics assurances that it's really a great film over their own gut instincts? Is that really intelligent behavior? Especially when the critics are imbedded in the film-making and incapable of being objective? I would like to finally address the obnoxious insistence that this film is "original". Being "original" isn't a good enough reason to see a movie, the "originality" has to WORK. It might be "original" to serve sushi flavored with cat poo, but it's not the fault of the audience that they aren't brave enough to "try new original things". Cat Poo flavored sushi is a horrible idea, it doesn't work. Michael Cera as an unlikeable whining "hero" doesn't work. ADD cartoon bullshit and text in a movie doesn't really work or enhance a story. CHUD hasn't been reviewing it as working, but mostly as being "original". Well, get over it, originality only gets points if it works well, not just because. And the general public saw Cera, goofy cartoonisness, deadpan acting from Winstead and everyone else, and said "smells like cat poo sushi" and left it alone. And good for them.
Let's end this "hipsters are exclusively young people" bs. You can be older and still be a hipster… It's all about the attitude not the age. Hipster is not a word used to describe young people, it is a term to describe people who use the word "ironic" way too losely, and who try to hard to be different, usually latching on to some shit from when they were 5 years old.
I wonder if Devin will do an unneeded series of articles on why this movie failed because of the fans like he did for "Serenity". It seemed like there was an almost daily article of “I didn’t like ‘Serenity’ so those geeks who did are wrong and I will now prove it because no one saw their stupid movie”. By the way, didn’t Serenity open to almost twice the B.O. that S.P. did? Come on Devin, justify it…
Andre, you are the box office analyst here at CHUD. Why are you not noting the 23% drop from Friday and Saturday for Scott Pilgrim? (resulting in an upswing from Friday to Saturday for "The Other Guys"). Doesn't that indicate that the film is "downtrending"? Actually suffering from BAD word of mouth from people who have actually seen it?
I think Devin was right when he said this film is "important". This film will hopefully be the last gasp of younger generation who has brought nothing new to the cultural zeitgeist and pave the way for some more forward thinking filmmakers that are not simply concerned with regurgitating and repackaging their youth instead of creating something truly unique.
Yeah… don't have much to add – certainly nothing new – so, in that spirit, and to continue what killed Scott Pilgrim, I'll put it up anyway. The film was so over-hyped and nothing I ever saw justified the glut of BS that was posted on this site, AICN et al.
I think it's an example of the downside of the geek culture: you can talk about something so much you bust people's eardrums about it. Then they sit at home hoping the film disappears quickly. This one will. Thank goodness. Fuck anyone with a name as dumb as Pilgrim.
I hate pilgrims about as much as I hate happy peasants in musicals.
What else, let's see… how can I say more nothing about it…
Can I see a show of hands here? Who actually went to see it and didn't like it?
Scott Pilgrim was the first movie I walked out on since I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry. And I'm someone who likes Edgar Wright and can't wait to see what he does next. But I just couldn't take the overindulgence. The Seinfeld scene was the last straw. The move was a collection of "hey, remember this," and "wasn't it cool when" with only the thinnest of narrative threads. If this represents are generations culture, I find that worrisome. ADHD tripe. Also, Expendebles FTW!
I think people are over-analyzing Scott Pilgrim's results too much. It was a niche movie, based on an obscure property, made by talented people that mainstream audiences don't know (besides Cera) and that was aimed at the tastes of a specific audience (20-35 year old video game/comic book/movie fans) and made the kind of money that such movies make. The lesson that should have been learned with Serenity, with Grindhouse, with Watchmen and with Kick-Ass.
Everybody who calls "SP" a "hipster" movie is a boner. It is as anti-hipster as anything I have seen.
It even features a song on the soundtrack called: "Death to All Hipsters".
But that's ok.
Clearly the obese, shortdicked nega- commentors on CHUD (as opposed to the many people on CHUD who actually like films) had something better to see, like "Dinner for Schmucks" or "Step Up 3D".
They are probably like the sad dude I saw in line yesterday, whose girlfriend (not like these commentors have ever had a girlfriend) forced him to see "Step Up 3D".
Clearly all the laughing about "Scott Pilgrim" is being done by people who hate awesome fight scenes where you can actually tell whats happening, funny lines you will be quoting your whole life, awesome near-classic music, classic video games, and smoking-hot babes.
For the guys that hate those kind of movies, they can go watch Stallone's marginal and immediately forgettable "Expendables".
If the BO Wrap and Dellamorte's great analysis does anything, it reminds us weekly that what is just 'good' is often the enemy of what is 'great'.
Fuck the haters.
At my theater, my experience with people talking about criticism or reviews when selecting what they're going to see has almost always been about reaffirming their own beliefs that were already there, which I believe has been brought up a couple of times already. I'm always hearing things like "I dunno, the critics haven't liked Airbender, so I'm gonna see Grown Ups instead". They shit on one movie for being shit on, but then they have no problem seeing something that was shit on just as hard, because that's the movie that they already WANTED to see. That's fine and everything, but by even bringing up what the critics thought, they sound like complete jackasses. If they just buy a ticket for a movie that's been hated by critics, I don't even think to ask why, but when they buy a ticket for a movie that's hated by critics after using the "critics hate it" logic for NOT seeing something else, I really want to. The opposite of that is when awards season rolls around and we start getting movies that we ordinarily might not get if it hadn't been for the hype they have and the fact that they've done well elsewhere and are just now expanding to the 'burbs. People that think they're being smart or something will go see these movies BECAUSE critics say they should, and then they'll end up not enjoying them, because they had no idea what they were getting into before going in. Even "Brokeback" wasn't safe from this after all the attention IT got, as we often had people coming out around the 40 minute mark to complain or leave. I still haven't seen the film in it's entirety, and I know there's certainly more to the film, but if you knew even just ONE thing about "Brokeback Mountain", you'd know not to be so surprised…
Guys, the low box office for Scott Pilgrim is a GOOD thing. It's an inverse, really, the worse the movie performs at the box office, the more credibility it has in the long run. When you look at the numbers from that perspective, this past weekend was a HUGE SUCCESS for what is now proven to be a game changer, a VERY IMPORTANT FILM.
This sums up everything that is inane in this comment section: http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2010/08/12/129150813/-scott-pilgrim-versus-the-unfortunate-tendency-to-review-the-audience?sc=fb&cc=fp
During Internet chats/discussions I oft times simplify my movie going choices downs to two types of movie: those that I want to see and those that I DO NOT want to see. The former are, more often than not, a mix of genre offerings (action, monsters, and art house fare) while the latter are comedies and movies that just don't grab me for whatever reason (whatever reason is a mercurical thing, depending on a given mood, frame of mine, or general dislike of a particular creative talent). Scott Pilgrim vs. The World did not grab. There was not a single trailer that made me excited about the film and, unfortunately, the more clips I saw, the less interested I became (although I love Shaun and Hot Fuzz). The fact that Michael Cera is an actor that I have no interest or liking for (I am the same way about Bruce Willis and Tom Cruise) also voted against it. Right now it is a last resort movie. If there is NOTHING showing that we haven't seen, then, maybe, we will check it out.
SP is less of s case of the movie and marketing but has more to do with the time of year it was released. This past weekend was the "last summer before school" weekend and most kids that you might have been targeting were out doing what they wanted outside for free instead of movie theaters where they usually retreat after the weather turns cold and there are no more fall sports. The "R" rated Expendables was perfect for the weekend as the audience was expected to be older plus if anyone wanted to be younger and sneak into Sly's pec pack, you had the PG-13 movie to use which I am sure helped factor into the decision to move Old Fish 3D to this upcoming weekend from its earlier date. If Universal would have released SP during November or early next year, your audience would have tripled easily but since this is the same company that released a Romero zombie movie prior to October, their marketing department just does not get the month thing.
I think this was really more of a nerd focused movie than a hipster fest. I didn't even see one can of PBR.
Pilgrim was a hell of a lot of fun once it got past an offputting first 15 or so minutes and main characters you just wanted to die, but "Best movie of the year" or "Game changer" It was not. It was a movie aimed towards a incredibly specific niche, one that honestly downloads movies rather than paying for them.
Internet popularity almost never translates into box office dollars. Anyone who thought Scott Pilgrim had even a chance of breaking even knows nothing of box office.
Next up: Tron 2 disappoints at box office.
Comment #66—"This past weekend was the "last summer before school" weekend and most kids that you might have been targeting were out doing what they wanted outside for free instead of movie theaters where they usually retreat after the weather turns cold and there are no more fall sports."—That's good old-fashioned, studio face-saving shit right there. If people genuinely want to see something, they'll go see it regardless of the time of year, plain and simple. Lots of big "summer movies" didn't do summer movie business this year, right in the middle of the usually busy period.
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