It’s all over the internet by now, but the story that started with James Cameron besmirching Piranha 3D
has dropped the other shoe with the response from producer Mark
Canton. The nice way to put it is to say that he wasn’t happy
with the King of the World. Not too much need to say more,
because Canton says plenty. Here’s a transcript of his
response, via Deadline:
Cameron told VanityFair.com while publicizing his Avatar re-release: “I tend almost never to throw other films under the bus, but [Piranha 3D]
is exactly an example of what we should not be doing in 3D. Because it
just cheapens the medium and reminds you of the bad 3D horror films from
the ’70s and ’80s, like Friday The 13th 3D. When movies got to
the bottom of the barrel of their creativity and at the last gasp of
their financial lifespan, they did a 3-D version to get the last few
drops of blood out of the turnip. And that’s now what’s happening now
with 3D. It is a renaissance. Right now the biggest and best films are
being made in 3D. Martin Scorsese is making a film in 3D [Hugo Cabret]. Disney’s biggest film of the year — Tron: Legacy — is coming out in 3D. So it’s a whole new ballgame.”
Canton
issued this rebuttal via Dimension’s PR department: “As a producer in
the entertainment industry, Jim Cameron’s comments on VanityFair.com are
very disappointing to me and the team that made Piranha 3D.
Mr. Cameron, who singles himself out to be a visionary of movie-making,
seems to have a small vision regarding any motion pictures that are not
his own. It is amazing that in the movie-making process –
which is certainly a team sport – that Cameron consistently celebrates
himself out as though he is a team of one. His comments are
ridiculous, self-serving and insulting to those of us who are not caught
up in serving his ego and his rhetoric.
Jim,
are you kidding or what? First of all, let’s start by you
accepting the fact that you were the original director of Piranha 2 and
you were fired. Shame on you for thinking that genre movies
and the real maestros like Roger Corman and his collaborators are any
less auteur or impactful in the history of cinema than you. Martin
Scorcese made Boxcar Bertha at the beginning of his career.
And Francis Ford Coppola made Dimentia 13 back in 1963. And
those are just a few examples of the talented and successful
filmmakers whose roots are in genre films. Who are you to
impugn any genre film or its creators?
Having
been deeply involved, as either an executive or as a producer, on Tim
Burton’s original Batman and the first Men In Black, as well
as 300, and now Immortals, one of the things that has been consistent
about all of the filmmakers involved in these
landscape-changing global films is that, in each and every case, all of
the directors were humbled by their predecessors, their colleagues and
by their awareness of the great history of film that came before
them. The enjoyment and the immersion of an audience in a
movie theatre, as they had and will have with the above-mentioned films,
and as audiences are experiencing with Piranha 3D now, comes from the
originality and the vision of the filmmaker, and not just from the
creation of the technology. You as much as anyone certainly
knows that there are many pieces to the puzzle. Going to the movies
still remains, arguably, amongst the best communal experiences that
human beings can share.
My
sense is that Mr. Cameron has never seen Piranha 3D… certainly not in
a movie theatre with a real audience. Jim, we invite you to
take that opportunity and experience the movie in a theatre full of fans
– fans for whom this movie was always intended to entertain. Does Mr.
Cameron have no idea of the painstaking efforts made by the talented
young filmmaker Alex Aja and his team of collaborators?
Clearly, and this one is a good bet, he has no clue as to how great and
how much of a fun-filled experience the audiences who have seen the film
in 3D have enjoyed. Those of us who have tried to stay in
touch with the common movie audiences – the ones who really matter, the
ones who actually still go to the theatre, put on the glasses, and eat
the popcorn – take joy and pride in the fact that movies of all kinds,
including Piranha 3D, have a place in filmmaking history – past, present
and future. 3D unto itself is not a genre Jim, it is a tool that gives
audiences an enhanced experience as they experience all kinds of movies.
I believe Mr. Cameron did not see Piranha 3D either with any
real audience or not at all. On opening weekend, I was in a Los Angeles
theatre with a number of today’s great film makers
including JJ Abrams, who actually had nothing short of the
fabulous, fun 3D experience that the movie provides. I am fortunate
enough to have worked on, and continue to work on, evolutionary movies
in all formats from just simple good story telling, which still matters
most of all, to CG movies to tent-pole size 3D movies, and genre 3D
movies like Piranha 3D. What it comes down to, Jim, is
– that like most things in life – size doesn’t
really matter. Not everyone has the advantage of having
endless amounts of money to play in their sandbox and to take ten years
using other people’s money to make and market a
film….like you do. Why can’t you just count your
blessings?
Why
do you have to drop Marty Scorsese’s or Tim
Burton’s names, both gentlemen who I have personally worked
with, and who have enjoyed great joy and success with movies of all
genres and sizes well before the advent of modern 3D? Then as
now, they were like kids in a candy store recognizing, far beyond your
imagination, the possibilities of storytelling and originality. For the
record, before you just totally dismiss Piranha 3D and all, in your
opinion, worthless genre movies that actually undoubtedly gave you the
ability to start your career, you should know that Piranha 3D had an 82%
“fresh” (positive) ratting on Rotten Tomatoes on opening day – a web
site that all the studios, filmmakers and the public use as a barometer
of what makes a quality film.
We
know that Piranha 3D has not achieved a boxoffice that is on the level
of many of Mr. Cameron’s successes. To date, Piranha 3D has
earned over $30 million around the globe with #1 openings in several
countries. And, as the “fresh” rating on Rotten Tomatoes
indicates, critics and many, many others have embraced and celebrated
Piranha 3D for the fun and entertaining – and even smart – movie-going
experience that it is. Let’s just keep this in mind
Jim….you did not invent 3D. You were fortunate that others
inspired you to take it further. The simple truth is that I had nothing
but good things to say about Avatar and my own experience since I
actually saw it and didn’t damn someone else’s
talent publicly in order to disassociate myself from my origins in the
business from which we are all very fortunate. To be honest, I found the
3D in Avatar to be inconsistent and while ground breaking in many
respects, sometimes I thought it overwhelmed the storytelling.
Technology aside, I wish Avatar had been more original in its
storytelling.
We
have to inspire, teach and mentor this next generation of filmmakers.
It is garbage to suggest that any film or any filmmaker who cannot
afford to work to your standards should be dissuaded from following his
or her craft by not making 3D movies or not making movies like District
9, for example, which probably cost the amount of Avatar’s
craft services budget, but totally rocked it in the movie theatre and in
the marketplace. In that case, it was not a 3D movie. But had
it been, it certainly would not have been any less original or
impactful. The enormous worldwide success of Avatar has been good in all
respects for you, your financiers, your distributors and the industry,
as well as for the movie going public. Jim, there is a difference
between Maestro which is a word that garners respect, and Dictator or
Critic which are words better left for others who are not in our mutual
boat or on our team. You are one of the best, it is reasonable to think
that you should dig deeper and behave like it. Young directors
should be inspired by you, not publicly castigated by your
mean-spirited and flawed analysis.
While
we are all awed by your talents and your box office successes – and I
compliment you on all of them – why don’t you rethink how you
address films with which you are not involved? You should be
taking the high road that is being travelled by so many of your peers,
and pulling with them to ensure that we, as an industry, will have a
continuum of talented filmmakers that will deliver a myriad of motion
pictures both big and small, with 3D or any other technologies yet to
come that will entertain audiences throughout the world. That is the
challenge that we face. That is the future that we should deliver.
Please go see Piranha in a theater near you.”





32 comments
Great response. Jimbo Cameron is an enormous tool and AVATAR was absolute shit.
Word.
That's a fantastic response, and pretty close to the best possible.
While I don't feel the same love as everyone else does for PIRANHA 3D, kudos to Mr. Canton for this.
I love most of Cameron's work, but the man is truly insufferable. A little modesty isn't gonna kill ya, son.
I agree with Canton's overall point, but some of his arguments ring hollow. Such as citing its rating on Rotten Tomatoes or passing himself off as some kind of champion of the modern movie goer ("Those of us who have tried to stay in touch with the common movie audiences"). Spare me.
I also think he makes some great points, noting that some of our greatest directors (probably Cameron himself) got their start doing genre work and B movies for guys like Roger Corman.
I also call bullshit that according to Cameron, or at least implied, 3D is now for the "biggest and best films" only, and how dare someone use 3D as a gimmick! For Shame! Really, get over yourself. It's a business.
this is so lame. No matter this guy makes a good point. He sounds like a whinny bitch. He only make the comments bc he knows that single handedly Cameron can destory this picture by saying it it sucks. If it was like Another director made the same comments, he wouldnt even respond.
This is sad reading a man, while making good points, sounded like a crying grade school girl. Whine Whine Whine.
Avatar sucks, go see Piranah. I saw it. But who fucking cares.
Too bad, he would have came out more of a winner, if he didnt whine like this and just say a few words concerning the confidence he has about his own product. Because in the end, if the product is good, it will show. Good for him on 30 million.
Still, if you dont whine. You will come out as the better man then Cameron.
Now you are low as him.
I hadn't really much of an inclination to see P3D, but I'm going to now. It will go so well with my whole little "not-seeing-Avatar-ever-again" project that I already had in progress.
Canton completely missed the point of Cameron's remarks. He's not saying that genre/B-movies like "Piranha" are bad. He's saying that just when 3D is starting to be used in a more sophisticated manner, others are once again using 3D as a gimmick, which only cheapens it – a novelty that audiences will soon grow weary of.
I have to say, as dead on as Canton is about Cameron being the prick that he often is. At the same time I have to call hm out for selling his movie at the same time. I can't help but feel this ready pans out like, "Cameron your being an unprofessional jack off, clam down. With that in mind, look at me and my product…bask in it's glory."
Mark Canton could've saved himself a lot of time and simply replied : "Everyone in show business knows James Cameron is an asshole."
Can we get Ving Rhames to do a reading of this? I instantly heard his voice when I read "Please go see Piranha in a theater near you"
His response is much more intelligent and thoughtful when you read the whole thing. Other sites have just been picking the nastier parts.
Piranha 3D is my religion.
Man, this guy's a giant baby.
I WILL SEE PIRANHA 3D AGAIN! SO GOOD!
Avatar is trash without 3D.. so how was 3D not a GIMMICK for Avatar or Piranha (or any 3D movie)? Cameron: "The consumer needs to be aware that just because a movie is in 3-D doesn't mean it's good." We're all well aware of this fact now, gamechanger. It's obvious 3D CANNOT drive character and story, only run tangent like tits and explosions of a Bay film.. comment#10 too.
Both failed, Canton worse than the almighty God!
So Piranha is a cinematic scourge in Jim Cameron's eyes, but Resident Evil: Afterlife gets a pass?
Puking onto the camera in 3D?
You assholes really bad money to see this?
Sorry, I tend to think Canton is putting out a thin-skinned over-reaction on this one. This over-worded response hits the right notes for drama, but feels completely knee-jerk and unnecessary.
Feels like a Barnum stunt.
"Canton completely missed the point of Cameron's remarks. He's not saying that genre/B-movies like "Piranha" are bad. He's saying that just when 3D is starting to be used in a more sophisticated manner, others are once again using 3D as a gimmick, which only cheapens it – a novelty that audiences will soon grow weary of." – Exactly! And isn't that the exact same criticism most 3D-phobic nerds have been using – that 3D is just a gimmick? It's kinda sad that people on a movie website will so aggressively defend a shitty cash-in like Piranha 3D rather than concede that Cameron, prick that he is, may have a point.
I really am tired of Cameron’s po-faced stance on 3D, and how it adds more depth to the movie going experience. It never has for me. It’s a tired argument, but would The Godfather have more depth in 3D? No. We all love it as it is, and it’s better than any 3D movie to date. The 3D that Cameron endorses does one of two things; it either draws attention to itself, which is bad, or you stop noticing it, which renders it pointless. I personally enjoy the type that pokes out of the screen; at least it does something. It’s silly fun, and while I certainly wouldn’t want every movie to do it, it makes for an enjoyable ride every once in a blue moon. And as for him criticising any movie, 3D or otherwise, for trying to get “the last few drops of blood out of the turnip,” this is coming from a man who said:
"We might be re-releasing the movie this fall. It's kind of gotten stomped out in theatres because of 'Alice in Wonderland.' The word we're getting back from exhibitors is we probably left a couple of hundred million dollars on the table as a result. We're talking about maybe adding in additional footage and doing something creative."
I love the work of James Cameron – he’s made some of my favourite movies – but I wish he would shut the hell up about 3D and just tell a good story, which Avatar just was not.
Shouldn't Cameron being saving his bile for movies that actually abuse 3D to make money? Films like Clash of the Titans, Alice in Wonderland, etc., which only added bad 3D in post so that they could slap 3D on their films for the extra cash? Or is it because those movies came from big studios and Jimmy is afraid of the Hollywood backlash if he attacked actual abusers of 3D for profit?
Cameron is a fucking prick. He should worry about his own movies. Avatar was complete dog shit, and its no surprise everyone is avoiding the Special Edition release like the plague.
I tend to listen to one of the most successful directors of all time. Avatar was short in 3D to be 3D. Piranha was a conversion. Its simple. Piranha is a fun movie. But is was redone in 3D to cash in on the 3D trend which was solidified by Cameron. I would be pissed too. If Avatar didn't exist, Piranha would be 2D. I wouldn't go as far as mocking the genre as much as Cameron did, but Piranha does mock 3D. The very fact that is was a conversion says so. IF it was filmed in 3D to be a 3D movie, then Cameron would not have a problem. And it fact it would probably would have been even better movie.
I agree with 22. If Cameron wanted to have a dig at the post-conversion process, why pick on piranha 3D – (which actually uses 3D as an integral part of its unapologetically fun exploitation-to-the-max gameplan) – instead of truly awful, mercenary botch jobs like Clash of the Titans, Alice in Wonderland and The Last F***king Airbender???? It's the greedy studio mentality that is ruining 3D as a sometimes viable stylistic approach, and I wish he had the guts to aim higher.
The "humbled" remark is the most resonant. JC needs to celebrate a few other filmmakers, not just himself. The Evil Dead 2 commentary relates a story where he turned up on Bill Paxton's doorstep raving about how great the movie was and dragging him off to another viewing. JC needs to find his inner geek again.
While I do think it's messed up of Cameron to be a jerk to Piranha, it doesn't change the fact the 3d in Piranha wasn't very good.
I didn't think it was possible for me to despise James Cameron more than I did, but when you publicly attack another film, well that is a completely new level of low. And in Vanity Fair of all places!!!! Shame on you, sir. Granted, some of Canton's words seemed a bit infantile, but overall he is absolutely right in everything he said. James Cameron's ego comes from the fact that he has made the most successful films of all time, but that doesn't mean he has made any of the BEST films of all time. Titanic is not Casablanca, Avatar is not 2001, and so on. In fact, Avatar is a piece of shit, the entire film is a gimmick! Give me the films of Alex Aja over Cameron's any day of the week! At least I will have a blast while watching them and know that the director is doing something because he loves to do it, not because of the money. And The Hills Have Eyes remake was terrifying and so brutal. Probably the best horror remake after The Thing.
Cameron's a dork. He comes off as some sort of cinema-messiah bringing 3D where there was none before. Get over yourself. On the other hand, Canton came off as a whiner that had a few too many drinks and dashed off an angry email. His good points were drowned out by his attitude. It's hard to preach "high road" when your knee deep in mud, dude.
If you had asked me one year ago what was the one film I was likely to see twice at the cinema I'd had plumped for AVATAR. As it was I have only seen one film twice in the cinema in the last 12 months. That film? PIRANHA 3D. Great fun, and a complete blast to take others to that may not be prepared for the gorefest. Anyhoo, while I agree that Cameron wasn't necessarily taking a pop at Piranha as a film, he still should have calld out Alice or Clash instead. Piranha 3D, despite not having great 3D, just feels right wearing 3D glasses anyhoo. Most fun in the cinema I've had all year.
But Piranha WASN'T redone to be a 3D movie and cash in on the craze (like Clash or Airbender), it was always meant to be in 3D. They shot it in 2D and converted it for what, i assume, were largely budgetary reasons. I mean, they had 30mil to make a balls-to-the-wall monster movie (on the water no less) not 300mil+ that it cost to make Avatar. Of course it's gonna look cheesy, it's a cheap movie about pre-historic fish. But that was part of the spirit of the whole movie anyway. Cameron made some incredible films in the past and they guy knows how to make a killing, but there's no reason to be a dick about it.
That's it. The OCP finally got Hollywood and everybody has eyeball herpes. Up next: synchronised swimming musicals and tap dancing babies! Better stack up on books until the real filmmakers are allowed to get back behind the cameras again!
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