Man, did I feel like I fumbled that Zack Snyder story. No analysis! No extra context! Nothing! I consoled myself with the idea that when it’s big news, people want bare bones. It’s news they want to talk about, not listen to me blather on and on about. And there wasn’t much go to on beyond Snyder and Superman, sitting in a tree….
But now there is. And now I can appease my guilt by reporting what little tidbits have sifted to the surface.
Drew McWeeny over at HitFix highlighted two intriguing Superman story hints. One is an article at Vulture, which is focused on Darren Aronofsky and Wolverine 2. They claim Aronofsky was very interested in Superman, specifically David Goyer’s story where “Clark Kent is a journalist traveling the world trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman.” There’s also a lot of dark hints about how Snyder was only picked because his schedule was clear, and Aronofsky would nitpick too long for Warner Bros’ time constraints. Allegedly, even Snyder has conceded the Goyer script is a mess.
This gossip (or at least the plot oriented part of it) would seem to be debunked by MTV’s quick, post-announcement chat with Snyder, who laughed at any whispers about Goyer’s story or that alleged Man of Steel title: “Yeah, they don’t know anything.” He also evaded questions about the villain, but heaped praise on Christopher Nolan and Goyer’s script. “All I’ll say is that those guys — Chris and David — have created an amazing story. The ‘Why [remake] Superman?’ is definitely being looked at with care, that’s all I could hope for as a director.”
Is Zod the villain? Heat Vision claimed it was, as did Latino Review. Interestingly, McWeeny talked to someone “close” to the production who also had General Zod on the brain: “The idea of Kryptonians as immigrants came up. Superman, raised as Clark Kent with a connection to American human culture, follows the rules of the country and the rules of the world not because he has to, but because he chooses to. But if a group of Kryptonians arrived on Earth, led, let’s say, by General Zod, and they didn’t feel any particular reason to follow anyone’s rules or laws but their own, that might well allow a smart storyteller to put Superman/Clark in a position where he’s serving as the enforcer for the ultimate case of illegal immigration of all time. And to complicate things emotionally, these are people from his planet, people who should be his family.” (Let me stress, as McWeeny did, that’s not an officially pitched idea that we know of. Just something from a conversation with a well-connected individual.)
Nolan, Goyer, and (now) Snyder have been putting a lot of stress on making Superman relevant to the modern world. Nolan already has toyed with politically tinged superheroes in The Dark Knight. Snyder wasn’t afraid of them with in Watchmen. (It would have been so easy for a director to tone down Rorschach, and neatly snip all the “What happened to the American dream?” stuff out. He held firm.) Might they be bold enough to involve Superman in such thorny, ripped-from-the-headlines issues? I hope so. It would be more of a talking point than Bryan Singer’s Christ analogy.
I’ve been sour on the Superman reboot since it was announced. I’m not a huge fan of the character beyond a surface appreciation of his iconography, and while I’m digging the comic trend, you are in danger of losing the audience. A Superman movie feels like a big nail in that coffin — unless they can avoid the origin story trap. Even Nolan and Goyer didn’t get me on board. It felt like perfunctory fan service. It still could be.
But I’m excited to have Snyder on board. Some have argued this is fan service too, but he’s a enough of a divisive figure among comic lovers that it reads riskier. I think it’s smart. I think Nolan, Goyer, and Snyder can balance each other out. Snyder will bring the scope and unapologetic love of bold strokes, Nolan will bring the brains and polish, and Goyer will bring the grit. (Hey, whatever his failings, he does do grit.) I’m actually keen to see how this comes together … and that means one more ticket sold than before. Win win, Warner Bros. Unless you’re rushing it. Then it’s a fail.
Now bring on the man who would be Super.





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Elizabeth, everytime I read an article with your name on it, I read your name in my mind as "Elizabeth Rape". I feel unclean. Is there something wrong with me? Has anyone called you Liz Rape in real life? I think need help. What will my kids think when they find out?
Your kids might think you're odd for not saying it Rappee (ie? ey? ) as most people do.
It's actually pronounced "Rap." Like the music.
Yes, people have called me Elisabeth / Beth / Liz / Miss / Ms. Rape in real life. I don't go by Liz, though, because my parents spelled my name with an S.
CHUD readers are quite fixated on my surname and its proximity to rape. I shouldn't be surprised, but I am….
This will be a brilliant movie. From what has been written on the net. I assume in a post 9/11 world Zod will be portrayed as a terrorist like figure kinda like the joker in Dark Knight. Except unlike the joker Zod will have a purpose with his terror, an Alien version of Bin Laden, Zod will of course want world domination and for everyone to kneel before Zod. Different from the Joker who was anarchist. Chaos for Chaos sakes.
Zod and his gang of Kryptonian terrorist will show up around the time when Clark is figuring out to be Superman. So then Clark shows up as Superman displaying the same abilities as these Alien terrorists. You'll have a world that might be hesitant to trust him since he is just like these Alien terrorists. So the world will be split especially America with those who tolerate Superman and view him as the savior that he is. And others who lump him in with the other Kryptonians who wreak havoc throughout the world.
Superman will be like a Muslim living in America today.
isn't this story just "Season 9 of Smallville"?
Brandon Routh will reprise his role.
Zod is involved
Super boy is gone gone gone.
Dealt with early in the script, it is the very reason supes turns his back on being super.
Untill of course he is needed, and he will be…
Am I the only one who likes origin stories for syperhero movies? Whenever I watch the original Superman (the movie) I always lose interest when he gets to Metropolis, I kinda like seeing him as a kid dealing with his powers then discovering the Fortress of Solitude and then turning into Superman. Same with Batman Begins.
Saying that, Snyder is a great choice for this. Hopefully he'll bring something dark to the franchise and one can only hope, some actual kick ass action! I want to see Supes/Zod throwing shit around and blowing shit up. Kinda like Neo & Agent Smith in the Matrix Reloaded, except 1,000,000 times better CGI!
Enough with the realism BS. These are comic book movies people.
Illegal immigration? Really? Really?
@Posted by No No No, Hell no
You're forgetting all the other superhero movies with themes set in the real world. Just look at Superman 3 and the oil crisis of the time, or Superman 4 and US/Russian relations. Stop whining.
Can we just have Superman beat up a giant robot or some dinosaurs or something? You know, the stuff that made him popular?
Try reading. The MTV article is not commenting on the vulture article at all. In fact, it was almost certainly conducted — the interview — when it was first announced and everyone did press with Snyder.
Excellent article, Elizabeth.
I'm not the biggest Snyder fan. The guy can paint a pretty picture but all of his films have been fairly barren emotionally. Yet, I can't imagine Nolan having his name on anything remotely rubbish. Quietly hopeful.
RE: not an origin
I can only hope you are right. Routh is my Superman. Supposedly Snyder said Brandon wasn't going to be Supes and they were going in another direction. If he's not involved I'm not interested.
I'm excited by the recent progress on the new Superman movie – but #9 has a point. A real project would be to expand each Fleischer cartoon in a feature length movie then we'd have 17 great slcies of Superman (if occasionally racist).
"Clark Kent is a journalist traveling the world trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman."
This is the exact summary of Superman: Birthright. Easily the best Superman story ever written. If they're using Birthright as a template then this movie has the potential to be pretty damn amazing.
More Elizabeth and More Dellamorte. CHUD is fantastic at the moment content wise…. bang up job. Don't feel like my opinion matters, but kudos, Elizabeth. This is a fantastic write-up. More of this and less gimmicky bullshit (see; Skeleton IV)
Yeah this was season 9 of Smallville. It was done well enough too. Except the immigration wasn't public. Also, the Kandorians wanted their powers back…but only because humans were so cruel and they wanted protection. Clark was too busy trying to save everyone to give them the proper protection they needed, so they turned to Zod who wanted to enslave humans in order to protect themselves. However, Zod's intentions are revealed to be nowhere near as noble as he made them out to be. Of course. Also it forced Clark to face his kryptonian heritage and eventually it truly considers them his people. And he got to talk to Jor-El before he became a disembodied asshole.
chud is coming together' post Devin. Great article Elizabeth! Perfect form for updated details and insight. That's why I read chud.com Rob
goyer is a hack, just look at his filmography, the only good stuff hes associated with had bigger more talented names attached
I agree 100% with Skeletron. SUPERMAN busting up giant robots and/or monsters would be FUN. Dark brooding Supes = BORRinng.
Try reading. The MTV article is not commenting on the vulture article at all. In fact, it was almost certainly conducted — the interview — when it was first announced and everyone did press with Snyder. [2]
Zod really? Are we going to just remake the original quadrilogy? I'm sure if Bernie Mac were still alive i'm sure if they would put him in as the Richard Pryor role. No more origins, between Smallville and the last movie we know where Superman came from, we knew this before such. Just a straight up action flick and I know Zack Snyder will do a great job, no more Zod, have Lex be the corporate raider we love. And then set up a story arc to last 2 more movies and leave it alone. Chris Nolan is right to do this with the Batman franchise hopefully he imparts some wisdom with Zack Snyder and he does the same.
@ #21 and 10
I'm well aware the Vulture article came AFTER the Snyder article, and that Snyder wasn't commenting on it.
However, the idea that *no one* really knows the story is, I think, rather key, regardless of the timing.
My point in quoting the pieces the way I did was to suggest anyone loudly dropping a piece of the story might be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since Vulture is the only one that even has that particular Superman logline. Numerous scoop hunters have heard of the Zod angle — no one has mentioned this. Doesn't mean it's not true, but it doesn't mean it is, either.
But please, keep suggesting I'm illiterate. Then everyone will think you're a genius! That's how it works, right?
Why oh why did it have to be ZOD? Why can't the new Kryptonians come from the shrunken city of Kandor?? You know, via BRAINIAC, THE ONE VILLAIN IN THE DC UNIVERSE THAT DEMANDS MOVIE ADAPTATION MORE THAN ANY OTHER AT THIS POINT. Gaahhhhd. Saving it for the sequel I guess, scaredy cats. And let's just cut to the inevitable Jonathan Nolan rewrite right the fuck now.
Great article Elisabeth. Insightful and informative, the way articles should be written. I am not a huge fan of bringing back Zod because in my mind no one can come close to Terrence Stamp's portrayal. But if they must put Zod in the movie, then why not? I for one would love to see Supes take on Darkseid or Bizarro or Brainiac, but that's just me. Oh and if this doesn't have Brandon Routh return, that would be a monumental mistake. I thought he was perfectly cast, and about the only good thing about Superman Returns.
TIMOTHY OLYPHANT FOR CLARK KENT!
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