Morgan Freeman sat down for an interview with MTV, where he gave his thoughts on what Batman 3 might contain, now that Christoper Nolan has essentially confirmed that he’s back for the third installment. On the subject of whether or not Catwoman would be in the mix, and a particular actress that Freeman had in mind to portray her, he had this to say:
“Well, yes and no. But I don’t know if that’s going to be [Nolan’s] choice.
There’s been talk of the Riddler, talk of the Joker—I don’t mean the
Joker—the Penguin. Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin, and that
sounds interesting to me. So we’ll wait and see. And there just may be
more than one.”
Freeman says, though, that when it comes to the details, he knows about as much as we do. But he seemed pretty secure in saying that Mr. Freeze wouldn’t be the guy. On a related topic, Aaron Eckhart said he’d be available for a return appearance as Two-Face. Whatever Nolan wants to do with the third film, I’m confident it’ll be good, because I’m confident in Nolan’s choices and I heartily enjoyed the first two films. Also, since he’s as good as been anointed as the Chosen One by Warner Bros., there won’t be any Spider-Man 3-style shoe-horning in another villain scenario. So if Nolan wants two villains, it’ll be his choice.
Since everyone has their take on the third film, as evidenced by this gallery alone, allow me mine if you will:
Considering how the Gotham underworld was panicking at Batman’s effectiveness in the last film, and the reputation he had gotten to the public at large now as a murderer, my personal preference would be to see a Bane scenario play out. And play out in a non-complete-and-total-shit manner this time. Perhaps Bane floods the streets with a watered down Venom that criminals feel they need to deal with the newer, scarier Batman or something along those lines. Makes trouble for Bats because he’s having more and more difficulty in taking out criminals physically, and it gives Bane a monopoly on a brand new drug. But he saves the real good stuff for himself in his bid to take over the Gotham crime set. And along the line somewhere, he hands Batman his ass in a one-on-one confrontation. This prompts Bruce Wayne to figure just how far he’s really willing to go to stop him. And the whole broken back thing can be skipped over obviously.
For although I’m always good to see a hot actress in skintight vinyl, Catwoman has been done and done well already. Bane hasn’t. You can check out the clip below for the Freeman interview.
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Bane is just about as likely as Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy, as in not at all. Not yet. But hey, you keep dreaming that and I'll still wait forever for a Brainiac vs. Superman movie. Riddler, Robin, and Harley Quinn, calling it now.
David,
I actually like your idea… but what actor could be both a intelligent underworld ringleader as well as the physical behemoth that it would require to portray Bane?
Terry Crewes
They shouldn't do catwoman because it's already been done well? Shit, I'm glad your not in charge or else we wouldn't have gotten the best joker ever created. Anyone who doubts Nolan no matter what he does at this point is insane. Including Bane and giving people venom? That sounds retarded.
Since seeing Dark Knight and realizing that the Joker has been memorialized by Heath Ledger and needs not be in the third, I still like the idea of Black Mask.
He may not be the most bad-ass of characters or well known but I think he and Two-Face could work. Similar idea in that Batman is now thought of as a murdering psychopath the city turns to a man who has means and says he can keep people safe from Batman, that being Black Mask, while working behind the scenes for his own ends.
He could also play Two-Face as a gambit against Bats to keep the trail away from Black Mask. He's at least as realistic as Two-Face, Joker, Ras Al Ghul all were. Looking at the Rogues gallery its kind of down to that or, Deadshot and I don't see how they'd make sense of that.
please just let them give us an intelligent detective smartest in the room batman first…then worry about a villian…
joker was ruined for me cause batman was just a common man in costume.
I kinda like Shane Edward's idea. Bringing in one or two of the more obscure villains would be fun. Having said that: Scarface.
I agree with David. Don't shoot down the idea until you've read Dennis O'Neill's Knightfall trilogy. Bane is a fantastic, realistic, and very intelligent figure who can challenge Batman (intellectually and physically). This is the movie I'd want to see.
I think in the first half hour of the new film Batman should get caught and put in Arkham. That's the movie we need. Batman having to fight Killer Croc and The Riddler and just about anyone Nolan wants. Batman could walk by a cell and hear the Joker giggling from inside and then you don't need him for the rest of the film but still have him in the universe.
Bane *has* been done before. He was one of the villains in "Batman & Robin."
Bane is a D-list villain. When you have the A-list Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman still out there … it seems odd to skip to D-List. B-list like Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow can work fine, but not lame D-list like Bane.
So Morgan Freeman knows nothing then? What exactly did he "spill" regarding Batman 3 other than his ignorance of what Nolan is going to do? Let's not have any more useless Batman 3 articles until official announcements are made.
No problem with wanking David, but Nolan's interested in the ideas of batman and the villains more than plot stuff. Joker had been done to death to but he turned him into the great symbol of anarchy. Using Bane in 1-1 drug parallel is about as conceptually dull as you can get. Really. Ugh. And just think how large in scope the last one was… what you're describing feels like a fraction of that.
I have no idea how it could be done, but I would like Scarecrow to return and the BIG villain.
"when did CHUD writers start padding out their articles with their own fanwanking? "
I think around the time Kick Ass got its first review. Or at least, that's about the point I remember when Devin stopped writing with any sort of critical legitimacy.
CHUD has become AICN
@14 — I agree. Nolan uses his choice of villians to push forward his themes of control, the illusion of control, and fractured humanity (that's how i read them, at least). Ra's, Scarecrow, Joker, Two-Face — all of them helped push those themes. Catwoman could work, I guess, but it'd be a lot more sexual and Nolan hasn't really been effective — or interested — at portraying sexuality in any of his movies. I think Riddler would work the best here. Like Two-Face he tries to impose order on his id, not with a coin toss but by couching his crimes in riddles and wordplay. And I think the franchise could use a bit of a tonal downshift into a detective procedural; Batman attempts to stop whatever series of crimes the Riddler's committing all the while constrained by his status as public enemy.
Anyway its all fanwanking but that's the movie I've dreamed up in my head. Nolan's likely to come up with something a lot better, of course.
Calendar Man should be the next criminal mastermind to make life difficult for Bats. It kinda makes sense in the grand scheme. Or if Nolan really wants to bring it all together, I wouldn't mind if Harley Quinn is brought in as the spurned lover seeking revenge. We don't know much of the background history of the Joker from the Dark Knight so this could also be another (safe) direction to take the story.
ANyone saying it couldn't be Bane…well, would you have bet that for a more realistic Batman movie, Nolan would have used Ras Al Ghul of all characters?
I'd like to see Batman get put on the ropes physically. That hasn't happened in any of the movies. Joker almost beat him psychologically, now let's see someone kick his ass.
Eh Calendar Man barely makes it to the D-list, Long Halloween aside.
i'd like to see riddler as serial killer. like the zodiac killer from san fran, but more riddles and less codes.
Mad Hatter, or Scarface. both psycho as hell, no Riddler, hes always been a bitch in the comics. Catwoman….ehh i can deal. but no more Riddler, Penguin, Freeze, Ivy. Harley could be a nice spin on the last movie tho.
My vote is for Harley Quinn as a doctor at Arkham that becomes obsessed with the Joker and The Riddler, inspired by the Joker, but feels he can pick up where the Joker left off because he is even more of a genius. You could even have the Joker pulling the strings from within Arkham, and never have to show him, just elude to the fact. If that doesn't happen, then The Penguin as a mob boss, not a cartoon character. This would work too because all of the major mobsters lost there power in TDK. He could take over completely, with The Riddler or Scarecrow helping as his main cronie. Let Nolan figure out the details, ya know, he's pretty good at that.
I have complete faith in Nolan. He has already demonstrated that he is capable of taking what was essentially a turd franchise (on the screen, at least)and turning it into fucking gold. There is plenty of source material for Nolan and his writers to turn to for inspiration; the plethora of Batman-related comics in existence (Knightfall was mentioned, Year One was practically the basis of 'Begins' and 'TDK,' Bruce Wayne: Fugitive could help frame a story about a vigilante Batman) have all helped propel the franchise away from the films that so disgraced it, (Tim Burton's Batman and the late '90s animated series not included). I've seen a lot of good ideas from the community, from a more psychotic and driven Riddler to a more calculating, less oafish Penguin, and all of these ideas sound great – but Robin has already been discarded, as has Mr. Freeze and, I'm secretly hoping, Catwoman. Ra's, Scarecrow and the Joker have all been cool, collected villains who have challenged Bruce Wayne's trust, faith and psychology; let alone his strength, determination and chivalry. For the final act, you need one more bad guy who will ultimately shatter Bruce Wayne. He nearly capitulated in 'TDK;' he certainly went back on a few things that he would've considered out of the question in 'Begins,' (the cell-phone sonar Fox objected to so adamantly, for example). In the third installment, regardless of who the villain(s) is/are, I believe Batman will kill them – for the sake of ridding the world of them.
I would like to see a mob war between Bane and the Penguin myself. Bane doesn't have to be cartoonishly hulkish, just really frickin' ripped. Look what Chris Evans did for Captain America. He's always been in pretty good shape but right now his biceps are bigger than my head. Too bad Mickey Rourke has already done the comic book villain, thing. He looks like he's done time in a South American prison.
Other sites are reporting the third flick (or at least part of it) will be shot in New Orleans. As a Chicago resident, I can all but assure New Orleans resembles… not Chicago. My theory: The third movie takes place not just a few years later but quite a few years later, and the Gotham of Begins and Dark Knight is no more. It's in ruins. Just a thought
Geez, the writers here can't win with you guys, can they? When Devin was here, he got insults, now that he's gone, we get comments about how the "site has gone down"…. then I read complaints about how they just deliver the news and no commentary, and NOW they capitulate and you complain even MORE?!?! I used to think I wanted to write for this site, now I don't know if I could take it without pulling my freaking hair out…. "Fool, fool, man is a fool / When it's hot he wants it cool / When it's cool he wants it hot / Always wanting what is not"….. screw the haters, guys, keep up the good work!
Fuck Bane.
Why does anyone want Catwoman? She's the most boring, shallow character in the Batman stable. Even Alfred's more interesting than Catwoman.
@ #31: Thank you. I never understood the obsession with Catwoman. Cool character design, I guess, but as a foil to Batman? Never made any sense. I would much rather see Talia Al Ghul be a bad guy/love interest in 3. She's been trained as an assassin since she was a child, so she can hold her own against Batman, and they can easily tie her in what with Al Ghul being the main villain from the first.
I'm not really for it but the only villain left that fits in Nolan's batverse is Hush.
I love Hoffman, but I think Paul Giamatti would make the best Penguin. He has those great eyes to work with.
With Batman officially a figitive now, I'd like to see The Riddler show up as a seemingly good-intentioned brilliant private investigator hired to find The Batman, only its discovered The Riddler is of course, not as good as everyone is led to believe.
The Riddler. Harley Qinn. Done. Both of them tie in well with the previous film, given that Harley is more or less a female Joker and The Riddler is just as morbid but smarter. Plus I think that the character of The Riddler has the potential to be just as mind-blowing as Heath Ledger's Joker if written and cast correctly.
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