Slowly, but inevitably, we’re getting our fill of Superman scoops as Zack Snyder tours Europe. The latest story hint is one that really dampens my fledgling enthusiasm, though I’m desperately trying not to be one of those geeks.
We’ve all been tossing around a lot of theories as to what this Superman story is. That undefinable term “reboot” doesn’t help. Will it be an older and wiser Superman? Will it be an origin story? Will it make the same mistake Bryan Singer did, and tie itself to the Richard Donner films?
Snyder answered three out of three to Film Actu, and Bleeding Cool thoughtfully translated them: “As I have already explained, the film will focus on early days of Superman, so there will be no links with other films. This is not a remake then. Similarly, although I still can not talk about the script, I can assure you that this new Superman will not be based on a comic book in particular.”
Early days of Superman? That is essentially an origin story all over again, earmarked for moments to explain again who Superman is. That’s not reinvention. That’s reiteration.
I know it was probably impossible to hope, as many were, for an older and wiser Superman.
Hearing that they intend to go backwards suggests a story focusing on all that “what does it mean to be a hero / maybe I should be a normal guy” stuff. It also lends credence (despite the weight I’ve given Snyder’s “nobody knows anything” quotes) to the script whispers of a Superman that travels the world, and agonizing over
whether he should even be Superman.
I’m making a lot of inferring leaps from a tiny quote, but if it’s at all true, I’m terribly disappointed. I’m not opposed to a soul-searching story, but that particular angle has been done. To have it playing out alongside all the Marvel origin stories just feels even more tired and thin. We know who Superman is. I don’t think we need to go over that story again and again. I don’t think the audience is that dumb.
I don’t think the question is “Who is Superman?” I think it’s a more along the lines of “What can Superman do for us?” I want to see a story like Superman: Peace on Earth where the answer might be something more like “Help us to help ourselves.” I thought the theoretical immigration issue was equally poignant. I even think you can ask that “What use is he?” question while having Superman fight something that’s massive and dangerous to all of mankind. I’d like to see him battling that question on two fronts. Isn’t there something insane in a superhero who is constantly fighting something huge, and ignoring the smaller dictators and wars of the world? I think you could have something intriguing about there ultimately being too much for him to do. Maybe, in the midst of all that, he does just want to give it all up. What’s the use of being a hero? What can he do, really?
Look, I don’t even know the answer to that question. But I do wonder how you’re ever going to get this character to speak to anyone if you just keep rewinding him. Relevance comes from age and experience. Not the initial introductions.





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All I want to know is, how many scenes will be slowed down and sped back up again.
Snyder did a good job with the 'slow-mo' in Watchmen as in..it wasn't saturated with it so I'm not worried about that, at all.
People attack the slow-mo a lot, but it beats extreme closeups, shaky cam and cuts every 2 seconds, which is what we get in most other films these days during action.
Snyder's style may be a little on the nose, but at least you can actually see what's happening.
Hey Elisabeth, thanks for keepin' CHUD classy (not snark). You're one helluva writer. Just sayin'.
Grant Morrisons work on The Authority would make a good Superman script template. Some of his actual Superman stories also (Allstar)
The problem with superman is that the creators didn't come up with a reason for him being sent to Earth that carries through into his career as Superman. Perhaps he should have been sent on purpose to protect Earth from big baddies who nobody else can handle, so he's too busy preventing the destruction of Earth to deal with petty crimes. I agree, there should not be another origin story. They should do a big-screen version of Frank Miller's Dark Night Returns, exactly as he wrote it!!!
Maybe he's talking along the lines of Tom De Haven's novel IT'S SUPERMAN from 2006. Early days of Clark Kent, post high school, 1940's, Never been on film before. Great book.
Oddly enough, I don't mind another origin story. As long as it presents a grander vision of Superman's world. I love the Nolan Batman films but the Batman story is more inherently personal. Superman is inherently epic and it's about time the film adaptation embrace that.
"Will it make the same mistake Bryan Singer did, and tie itself to the Richard Donner films?" That wasn't the problem with the last one. It was Superman had a kid. And maybe it was just me, but the Superman living in the closet thing seemed like a gay reference. Sorry, Bryan, Superman isn't a dead beat father or a gay character.
so basically we're getting an even crappier version of Smallville? Smallville with random speed-ramping? Great…..
I vote Ernest Borgnine for the "older, wiser Superman."
Wouldn't an origin story be akin to a remake, which he said this also isn't?
@MikeMc: Man, what I wouldn't give to see a film adaptation of It's Superman! Regardless of whether they did that or not, I feel that Superman is only worth doing if it's a 1930's/1940's period piece.
well I guess this can't be too huge of a shock, especially if they're wanting to rebuild their universe. hey nolan did an alright job retelling batman without it dragging TOO much. i'm just glad we have a director that'll realize they have an action character that can do a lot more than just talk and brood like singer's; now i just wonder how they can start superman back at the beginning WITHOUT having lex as the villan….
Let's not kid ourselves here: Is anyone REALLY that interested in another Superman movie when the last one took 6 months break 200 Million domestically?? Really folks??? This character died when Christopher Reeve passed on and I know geeks will frown at this, but it's true.. You can only do so much with this character..
@#16 No, the reason the last Superman took 6 months to break 200 Million (poor them) is because it wasn't actually good. You make a Superman movie with quality similar to Batman Begins/Dark Knight, and people will flock to it. There's plenty of great stuff you could do with Superman, it's just that the studios don't seem interested in putting it on the screen. They want to make another fucking origin story. Here's a suggestion: If you want the origin of Superman in your new movie, go the Hellboy route. Have it condensed into a 10-15 minute opening sequence (or even just a montage during the opening credits like the recap in Spider-man 2) and move on.
If this is a reboot, there needs to be some kind of introduction to the character. No one wants a reboot and I don't think Snyder will give us one. But it makes sense to focus on Superman's early days and build the character up rather than go slap bang into a story where he's already been around for ten years or more.
If they want to do an origin movie, they might as well just adapt the terrific Superman: Birthright and call it a day…
Superman sux and really needs to go away for so many reasons: first, there are way too many super hero movies made every single year. Second, this particular hero wears tights and a cape, flies, can lift anything, and is essentially invulnerable which when all added together equals BORDOM. Third, they already tried to bring back Superman and it failed, very few people are anxious to give them another chance to fail. Fourth, there are a ton of far more interesting D.C. heros waiting for their own movies. Enough of the Superman/Batman nonsense.
Come on people, let Superman fade away with a little dignity.
@#20
I think that, if a Superman movie were done, right, it would be an amazing movie that could blow our minds. Sure we're all disagreeing right now with the ideas for the movie that's being made, but if great filmmakers think they can make an amazing Superman movie, then hell, let them try it. We deserve an amazing Superman by now.
And Elisabeth Rappe, just became a big fan of your writings
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