The Dark Knight Rises.
That’s the title of the new Batman film, says the LA Times’ Hero Complex. It’s also the title of half of the amateur Batman movies being made I’d guess. Followed by The Dark Knight’s Revenge, Alfred Goes Bananas, and Silent Dark, Deadly Knight.
It’s a title. I’ll give it that.
The
best reveal from their story is that The Riddler isn’t the villain.
This pleases me greatly, just so long as other dumb cartoony
villains like The Penguin, The Puddler, and Ol’ Sleepy Cheeks don’t show
their faces either. In my opinion the villains of the Batman universe
tend to be much more effective on Saturday Morning Cartoons than
onscreen and Nolan’s sober tone doesn’t lend itself to a place where a
fat ass with an umbrella can be considered a threat. I also hope
everyone realizes that Catwoman has been done to death. I also can’t
imagine a monster like Killer Croc or Man-Bat showing up, though if
dealt with seriously and with menace I could see them being a fun one
act distraction from the “A” plot.
In my mind, Nolan
has earned the right to do whatever he wants. He blew Tim
Burton’s entire take on the character away with the first half of Batman Begins and has only been raising his game since.
The Dark Knight Rises.
Yeah. It is a title. Can’t get much more excited than that about it.
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Out of curiosity, which villain would you like to see used that would work in Nolan's world Nick?
That can't be the real title. It just can't be. It sounds so clunky.
What's wrong with the title? Would Batman 3 have been better? Its a good title, Nick. So go back to sucking James Cameron's blue avatar dick and shut the fuck up.
The title is meh. I would've expected it to be something different, but oh well. Anywho, I'd like to see the Calendar Man and Harley Quinn be the villains, but what do I know.
I still prefer Burton's movies to the current ones. The dialogue is so clunky, whereas it just sings in the '89 and '92 versions.
I know that Nolan has said repeatedly he won't do it, but Victor Freeze could be great in his reality based world. Take out all of the freeze ray/ sci-fi nonsense and make it about a guy motivated to save his wife, who's willing to hurt people to do it. He's got the best backstory of any of the available villains I think.
Just have him fight the mob. Who cares if we get one of the rogues as long as it's good.
Real trouble is, Nolan's sensibility is so ingrained in us by now, I bet most can already picture his take on The Riddler. And, while he might surprise, if he trots out something even close to what we imagine, its going to be predictable and predictable equals boring.
"What's wrong with the title? Would Batman 3 have been better? Its a good title, Nick. So go back to sucking James Cameron's blue avatar dick and shut the fuck up." Ah, Internet fanboys: the classiest bunch of classes that ever classed.
Tom Hardy – Deadshot?
I think its perfect casting.
I still contend that the Riddler would have worked fine in Nolan's world. Just, instead of goofy Frank Gorshen, you're more like that guy on Numb3rs. A plotting, planning mastermind in a dark room full of monitors and blackboards, always 3 steps ahead.
I like this title. (so much better than the fanboy attempts: "gotham city", seriously wtf?) Positions itself as part of a pair of films with TDK, with BB serving as a stand-alone prequel. Maybe. Now how about King Tut for villain?
Bane, Clayface or Mr. Freeze would be grate to see get the Nolan treatment. Particularly IMO Clayface would be the best choice. Character has a interesting back story and with all the money being thrown at Nolan at this point they could afford to have him shapechange quite a bit.
As far as villains go, you could make Black Mask, Hush, and lesser-knowns like Cornelius Stirk or Calendar Man work. Each of those has its plusses and minuses. Black Mask might be the best option, since the mob provides a ready source of goons.
#3: I think I hear your Momma calling you for dinner so take off your hipster hat and go upstairs. Why don't you come up with an actual name and then come back and talk and stop hiding behind "unknown user" when you attack Nick, who created this goddamned website, you fucking whiff of a human.
I think now that Bat Man is on the run, a criminal from the mob (maybe the Riddler) can rise via politics and head some sort of task force to capture Bat Man. Even though #12 called the title of Gotham City a fanboy title, I kinda like it. Maybe even just Gotham.
The title is wank. They should just use Dark Knight Returns.
Catwoman has been done to death? No, she has been abused and mishandled and screwed up. She deserves to get a proper treatment. Pfeiffer did kind of ok, but that whole thing was too mashed up in Burton's twisted infantile gothic style with hardly any real action at all. Marion Cotillard mayhaps…
@#3: you are a craptwat.
"Rise of the Dark Knight" sounds better.
I don't like that title at all! It sounds so generic and like something a Batman video game would be called. I still think the best title they could go with is THE CAPED CRUSADER. It would be cool to have every one of Nolan's film carry a different Batman moniker. I also think that it makes sense to call him that considering his crusade against crime. It just feels different and like it would complete the trilogy.
The Riddler would have been fine dude, he is serious enough. Cartoon creators often make him lame because the cartoons in themselves are lame. You think something like man-bat will be in it? Go back to jerking off to C rated sci fi movies you noob.
Fuck you all,
Peace
Batman Begins was tedious. Fanboys drool over it way too much. Nolan has painted himself into a corner with his 'realistic' take on Batman. Batman's best villains are his most outlandish ones. He's got nowhere good to go with the 3rd one.
Heheheheh. Ah, comments….
I saw on /Film someone suggest "Gotham City" for a title. I didn't think that was too bad, considering that the city itself is its own character. We all know Nolan and co. will look to the comics for inspiration, etc. like they did for BB and TDK. Why would they lift a previously used title if they weren't aiming for direct comparison to it? I wasn't impressed with "The Dark Knight Rises" as a title, but I'm sure as a film, I'll be blown away better than my second girlfriend's trademark road head.
There's speculation going around that the title implies that Two-Face isn't really dead. I have to admit, as farfetched as it may be, I'd like to see that.
I always thought that he was one of the most compelling villains in Batman's Rogues Gallery and Aaron Eckhart is a great actor.
I'm a bit disappointed to hear it won't be the Riddler. I know, he's too similar to the Joker but I heard a fairly interesting way to portray him that would fit in with Nolan's take on Batman – make him a combination of the Zodiac Killer and John Doe from Seven.
But yeah, if they want a villain that fits in the Nolanverse, it's probably gonna be Black Mask or Hush.
"Shadow of the Bat" please.
Deadshot sounds to be about a perfect fit considering how the last one ended.
Penguin could work. Not as a cartoonish character, but as a mobster to take over Gotham after Batman and Gordon took down the entire mob in TDK. I would have liked to see The Riddler, but like you said, Nolan can do whatever the fuck he wants, and I'll see it, more than once.
Geez. Terrible title.
Returns as part of the title would equate it to movies like Batman Returns and Superman Returns. Now personally I like both and think they were ok but let's face it having Returns in the title might have been a jinx.
Agree on the title, kinda seems like wb shoehorned the dark knight into the title.
Glad theres no riddler the last thing this film needs is a diet joker, which is how I think Nigma would play in a nolan universe. My vote goes to hush, I doubt theyll be childhood friends, but I think Hardy would be perfect for an anti-bruce character. Much more interesting way to close out the trilogy than a guy who blows shit up if you dont solve his riddle in time.
At least it's not as bad as Transformers.
Batman 3: The Dark Knight of the Moon.
He should battle Howard Stern as "Fart Man"
It really doesn't matter who the villain will be. So far Nolan's villains have been MacGuffins – external forces whose sole purpose is to get Bruce through some sort of personal growth/trauma, etc. Nolan uses the villains to explore inner psyche and ideas. I mean, Batman Begins had RIDICULOUS villains that amounted to philo/psych majors that 'took a turn for the worse'. So the villain now will probably be someone Bruce knows personally or something or family ties a la IM2. It's only his amazing filmmaking prowess that allows me to ignore how inconsequential the villains are individually. Though Ledger did about as best as you could do with that role in Nolan's world.
I have little doubt about Ra's Al-Ghul making an appearance. He had an important role in the first of the three movies, will have just as important a role in the final. Along with Liam Neeson, we may see an actor portraying Bane- sent as an assassin to eliminate the Bat.
Catwoman, Robin, R'as Al Ghul. The End.
I'm sorry… but to me… they're just pretending like Batman Begins didn't happen.
I don't like this. This had better not be the title of third film. It just feels like something fanboy would have come up with.
Dumb. Uncreative.
Who give's a rat's ass what the title is? It is the movie itself that counts.
Nick, you're almost antagonistically awful.
Stay away from cartoony villains, oh, but maybe you could do a monster.
Also, Catwoman has been "done to death," moreso than the Joker, I guess? Or every other Batman villain? More than Batman?
Find a writer.
Anna Faris as Harly Quinn POW
Penguin could work. Cast Bob Hoskins as a corupt. british bigwig who moonlights as a gun runner/black market type, (Think Nick Cage from god of war with corporate backing) trying to fill the gotham organized crime vaccuum. Maybe tie him to alfred because they were SAS and mercenaries together (the "friends in burma" story from dark knight.) Alfred went straight, Oswald became a king pin. Maybe he has a limp from an old war injury and walks with a cane/umbrella. His awkward gait and penchant for wearing tuxes (he throws a lot of parties for powerful people, networking) are what give him the alias.
@ #40 Yeah, your right.. It's almost as Nick is trying to throw water on the whole thing by denouncing the so called "cartoonish villains" but when you get right down to it, that's pretty much all the BATMAN universe has, so now what?? Make up a villain?? I suggested this years ago on another forum, probably KJ, and was laughed at for it..
"I broke more than your back. I broke your spirit, too." — BANE End of story. Joker was all about chaos and the relationship between he and Batman. Joker needed Bats. Bane on the other hand, is focus driven with well laid plans and would set on destroying the Bat, similarly "for sport". Using old foes (I don't think Dent was in the casket) to break him down. If I were directing it I would focus on Bane's intellect, his ability to see all the angles and his drive for the sole purpose of destroying Batman before he "rises".
Since riddler is out of the picture I could realyy see bane as the villian, you know as a bounnty hunter. Hell they could make the movie about batman villians who specialize in hunting/assassinations who are hired to hunt bats down. You could deadshot, bane, and others
Thats a Damm shame…damm shame..dumbass title but i cant wait to see the film..
The title is cool. What do you want something stupid like Gotham Knights? Dark Knight Rises = Batman rising from the ashes. It's simple and dramatic like the first two, and without being over the top. I haven't heard anyone else come up with anything better!
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