The Walking Dead debuted yesterday to smashing numbers, based solely on CHUD.com’s business-altering preview piece.
We
kid. Frank Darabont is the man and television is the better for having
him creating horror shows for it. We will be doing Tag Teams of the show
(as we do with Boardwalk Empire and possibly more shows) as we go onward. Here’s our first:
Episode 2: Guts
Directed by Michelle Maxwell MacLaren
Nick Nunziata: The second episode of The Walking Dead flew across
the ionosphere into our homes last night after breaking records in
its first week. I’m not surprised it did. It was as well marketed as
any television show I can remember (save Shasta McNasty) and it was
the perfect Halloween weekend programming fare. I was disappointed
in the show, but since I find the comic leaden I suppose I shouldn’t
have been surprised. I’m way in the minority though.
What did surprise me was that in the span of one week the leading
character went from bland to serviceable to pretty damn good. What
also surprised me was how in a week the show has pretty much
guaranteed that the gore and adult content isn’t going to be an
issue with its heaping grue and copulation action. This was a very
aggressive episode in terms of gore, profanity, and sex (with people
literally risking their lives to get laid) and it pretty much kills
the ‘Is AMC up to the task’ argument.
I liked it more but still have qualms but you were right about
Lincoln, Elisabeth.
Elisabeth Rappe: I love being right!
But I too was delighted with where they took
Rick in this episode. He has to prove himself a capable leader to the
viewing audience (Kirkman’s characters just literally said “You’re the
leader!”) and I think this episode did it believably. Rick may have
been in a coma, but he’s a quick thinker. We saw glimpses of that in the
pilot (under the tank — into the tank). Here he proved that once he
knows the rules of the walker world, he can survive, and bring others
along for the ride. He isn’t just going to sit and cry like the rest of
the red shirts.
I was seriously pissed at what they did with
Lori and Shane though. I liked Lori a lot in the books, and I’m a
little disgusted that Darabont’s idea of “enhancing” the material was to
give her and Rick martial problems, and then have her hop into the arms
of his best friend. “Unhappy wife” is a cliche of a characterization.
Kirkman’s Lori was refreshing because she was just a normal woman,
genuinely missing her husband, and who had understandably sought comfort
with Shane. Once. Not eagerly and repeatedly, the zombies take her kid.
Yuck.

Alex Riviello: I’m not quite so sure they gave them marital problems though. They just
had a fight- every couple does. Leaving off on an argument the night before Rick gets knocked into a coma seems
to have made things worse, on both ends. Agreed about the “it was one mistake” thing
feeling like a better character decision in the comic, but I’m still curious to see what they do with the whole situation here.
Otherwise, who else was surprised by how different this episode felt?
Wordy and action-packed compared to the first’s slow burn. I’m a bit
concerned that with all these characters to introduce (including a bunch
that are new for the show) we’re not going to get to know or care about
any of them nearly enough- not like we already know Frank, Morgan and
Duane, for instance. But Glenn is already a champ and The Rook is obviously having a blast with his dirtbag character.
Agreed with Nick about the gore content- Darabont’s promise to make
Breaking Bad “look like pussies” has been completely delivered. I can’t believe what channel this is on.
Joshua Miller: Goddammit. I WANT to like this show so much. It is making
it very difficult for me though. At the end of the pilot I had hoped
the show just needed to work through the growing pains of a familiar
set-up before it could start clicking, but I liked Ep 2 significantly
less than my already middling reaction to the pilot. I won’t go so far
as to say the series shit the bed already, but there was definitely a
little sprinkle of urine in the sheets here.
To put it blandly: our characters suck. I like Rick just fine.
But
the rest. Ugh. I feel like it is just blah archetype after blah
archetype. While The Rook (I like this nickname, btw) of course nailed
his performance as always, I’m frankly disappointed to see him wasted on
such a cliche racist character. While the show is definitely delivering
on the zombies and the gore, it is failing miserably (for me at least)
in the one area I was sure Darabont would succeed – the characters and
dialogue. Everything our characters do and say feels forced. The show
isn’t taking the time to earn its conflicts, so much as just throwing
them out there and hoping they stick. Like Laurie Holden attacking Rick
with the gun when they first meet. What a trite moment of manufactured
tension. Worse yet, the dialogue is wooden and unnatural too. Maybe my
expectations have just been too high. I don’t know. It probably didn’t
help that I watched this and Boardwalk Empire back-to-back, but doing so
certainly showcased what cardboard dramatics The Walking Dead is
working with. The characters all behave like characters, not people. And
don’t even get me started on Rick’s wife. A perfect example of being a
character, not a person. Taken as a character, I guess I’m supposed to
find her strong-willed and compassionate – hence why she followed Emma
Bell’s character off when Bell wanted to go save her sister, giving
Shane the stinkeye for being pragmatic. Yet, taken with a spoonful of
reality, all I can think about is what a fucking horrible mother she is,
constantly wandering away from her small child when they could be
attacked at any moment. When the world is ending, that is exactly when a
mom would get batshit crazy in her attempts to keep her children safe.
I did enjoy Rick’s plan to cover himself in zombie slime (though the
moment where they check the corpse’s wallet made me groan, and not in a
zombie way). The series shows that it excels when it can focus on
action and zombie shenanigans, so I’m still holding out hope that once
the writers have waded through all the character set-up (which they’re
proving incapable of cleverly handling) that maybe the show will find
steady ground. But the outlook isn’t great thus far. As is, the show is
really dropping the ball for me.

Elisabeth Rappe: As much as I liked Rick, the rest of the characters really didn’t gel
for me. But you name a racist character Dixon, and give him the
dialogue of Mel Gibson (“Sugertits!”), and I really stop believing in
the entire world for a moment. It was weirdly clunky for Darabont. He
gradually moved into that “man, people SUCK” territory with “The Mist”,
here it just felt perfunctory.
At least half of them will probably get eaten, right?
Jeremy G. Butler: Yeah, I think we’re slipping into bad territory
here. We all forgave a lot with the first episode in terms of tropes
and cliches because the writers had space to supplement with nuance and
characterization and, even though it wasn’t perfect, there was a lot of
that. This week though? Not so much.
Which isn’t to say it was a bad episode, but it certainly felt more
like a generic DTV zombie movie than anything worth championing. I
agree with everything said so far about Rick’s wife – she’s in a
position and is saddled with enough drama that she could easily become
one of the strongest characters on the show, but the writers are
scuttling all of her potential away for all the reasons already listed.
I’m also having trouble buying that this group of rag-tag stragglers
was who the base camp sent in to the Big City as their partnerships only
served to create those little moments of stereotypical drama. “Blah
archetype after blah archetype” indeed.
That’s not to say there weren’t good things. I dug the “blend in
with zombie guts” plan and even though some people have criticized it
for being stupid what with the “rain is washing the smell away” device, I
kinda saw it more as their reactions to the rain being what caused
their cover to be blown – though that may be just me. At any rate, from
that point on the episode got pretty much great and made it worth
sitting through the previous 45 minutes or so of bullshit. I like that
Rick gave Glenn point on the sewer job and I love (LOVE) that Glenn got
the Big Hero Moment in the final few seconds of the show.
I also like that it seems like we’re gonna get a big gruesome set
piece every week. Even though it wasn’t as much of a visual feast as
the Torso Zombie, the corpse dismemberment was a delight. What I hope
we DON’T get is an eye-rolling dose of unearned
sentimentality to go with all of these big gruesome set-pieces – I wish
they hadn’t traded the nuanced “I’m sorry this happened to you” for the
ham-handed wallet bit.

Joshua Miller: “I’m also having trouble buying that this group of rag-tag stragglers
was
who the base camp sent in to the Big City as their partnerships only
served to create those little moments of stereotypical drama.” Totally!
And why was Laurie Holden so pissed off at Rick when they first met?
Weren’t they all aware that Glenn was rescuing him from the tank? Or did
I miss something there.
Earn yo’ shit, Walking Dead. Earn it.
Jeremy Butler: Ostensibly it’s because he led the “geeks” to them by firing off his gun
all the way down the alley. It rang hollow though, obviously,
especially once they got on the roof and she just stood there helpless
while The Rook beat the hell out of T-Dog.
Also – I kept waiting for him to make use of that
hand-grenade as they made a point to show Rick putting it in his pocket.
I figured that’d be the Big Distraction he and Glenn ran off to make.
Alex Riviello: You definitely missed something there. Rick’s little tank adventure was
what led them all there- do’nt you guys remember how empty the city was
until he got there? The group was being all sneaky and quiet until he
came there and fucked anything up, getting them all ravenous and leading
them right to them. Laurie Holden’s character getting freaked out and
pulling a gun on him because she was so scared herself makes perfect
sense. Everyone’s in survival mode, after all. No one’s making rational
decisions with a zombie horde smashing in on them. Unless they see
pretty jewelry.
Joshua Miller: I know that’s what we were SUPPOSED to take away from the events. My
question was somewhat rhetorical and snarky. I just didn’t buy the
moment emotionally (or even logically).
Nick Nunziata: One thing that I’m glad about about is that the dumb
‘Hero Zombie’ who was featured so much in the spots for the first
episode hasn’t become a recurring thing. The last thing we need is
for one of these attention hogs to distract from the show. I’ve
already gotten irritated at a few extras more hungry for screen time
than brains in the first two shows.
But as far as the generic feel of the cast and dialogue, I agree
wholeheartedly. Aside from (possibly) Lincoln and the young Steven
Yeun as Glenn, no one is really doing anything to come off as
invested in the world. Michael Rooker is always good, but there’s
nothing for him to work with. When I read the comic it was apparent
that all this dialogue would require really choice performers to
make it work. So far, The Walking Dead as a television show is a
Stephen King miniseries.
Making matters worse is that things don’t look to be getting more
interesting at the RV camp.
I’m beginning to think that the effectiveness of this show is going
to rely on how much the viewer needs a show like this. If it doesn’t
start getting more effective I can see it leaking audience above and
beyond the typical culling that occurs after a splashy pilot.
I will say this: the guts scene did it’s magic. Yucky!

Joshua Miller: “So far, The Walking Dead as a
television show is a
Stephen King miniseries.” Bingo. On the nose. I also sadly agree
about people watching this show because they need it. I say “sadly”
because I am such a person. The kind of person who watched REAPER
despite its best efforts to get me to stop, and who, despite vowing that
they simply couldn’t take anymore TRUE BLOOD after this season, will
mostly likely come crawling back with sad eyes like an abused puppy when
it premieres its 4th season.
Elisabeth Rappe: Well, I’m not sour enough on it yet. I read all the way through the
comic despite not liking zombies that much, and finding some of it
(coughtheGovernorcough) pretty absurd. I just really, really liked the
characters and it kept me guessing. I don’t watch a lot of zombie
movies, I don’t play a lot of zombie games, so I wasn’t immediately
weary with what are undoubtedly tired cliches to Romero fans. I just
kind of dug it.
And so far, I dig the show even if I feel some
of the changes are for the poorer. I thought Darabont really deepened
the first issue with the pilot. Here, I feel like changes were made just
to make them (making Rick and Glenn part of an unwieldy group — why?)
and I do worry the show might continue in that vein. I want to be
surprised, but the Lori and Shane thing was a disappointment, and if the
show undercuts the characters … well, then I might drop out. I don’t
need a zombie fix that badly, and I can just read the comics to get my
fix of Grimes & Company.
I half hope when Rick is finally
reunited with Lori and Carl, he really does sit them down and tell them
about the Wallet Zombie. And then Lori is all “Ok, yeah, WHATEVER” and
glancing at her watch, itching to get it on with Shane in the mushroom
forest. Wait, that’s probably exactly what will happen. If it does, I
hope a zombie eats her and Shane in episode 4, and Rick is left a
weeping widower. Andrew Lincoln is cute when he cries!
Nick Nunziata: I love having you around.





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Ms. Rappe seems to be livening up any Tag Team review in which she's been allowed to participate. Nick, either here (especially here) or on the new site, please make sure she gets more opportunities to write. I don't know of her work elsewhere (besides the joke I made a while back at her expense about her losing her prior gig…and I am VERY sorry about that Ms. E) but so far here I'm very pleased. I often don't agree with her opinions but reading her work reminds of one of those situations where you stumble into overhearing someone having a cool conversation and you find yourself hanging around longer than intended to hear a little more.
I started reading this article about the show and had to stop at this to say something (keeping in mind everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion): "What did surprise me was that in the span of one week the leading character went from bland to serviceable to pretty damn good. "
I'm glad you think Lincoln got better, but I found him anything but bland in Episode 1. The scene where he wakes up in an empty, trashed hospital and finds the chained door with the painted message is one of the most chilling things I've seen on film. Rick Grimes nearly, excuse me, shits, when those hands come out of the door space. And when he goes home calling out for his wife and son, collapsing on the floor in grief and confusion?
I see what Darabont sees in Andrew Lincoln. This is his Thomas Jane/Mist guy. That blend of deep emotion set against stark horror.
Now I have to gnash my teeth because some Internet types I know dissed Lincoln's southern dialect. To my ear, it's spot on.
I'm getting the feeling that Shane and Lori were having an affair before the zombie plague hit. Watch Shane in the opening scene of the pilot. He's trying to find out if Rick suspects anything.
All I have to say is I'm glad I haven't read the books or else I might sound just as whiny as you guys do. I mean seriously, all I'm hearing from you guys is "It's not like the book, it should be like the book." Shut up and just enjoy the damn show for what it is, the best goddamn zombie show/movie ever made imo.
@#3: Good point. Wallet Guy: I think that's a clunky method of showing how Rick is going to develop from a guy who cares, to a guy who stops caring. He'll never tell his family about Wallet Guy because there will be too many Wallet Guys to remember before long. Agree that they should have created the group more slowly. Rick, Then Rick plus Glenn, and so on. That "Group Dump" created a fuckload of problems and it was a relief when the two of them got out with the zombies again and particularly when Glenn started ripping up the highway in the sports car. Rooker was a complete waste of group tension. He was playing a cartoon to T-Dog's cartoon. They wasted so much running-time on their bullshit.
Nick, these zombies as all GOOD zombies, are not hungry for "brains". FUCK Return of the Living Dead, fuck it in its putrid ass.
Clunky or not the wallet scene set up a nice chuckle with the "organ donor" line.
And yeah, I NEED this show.
can you change the title from "tag team" review, to " Nit Pick" review. My god, just nit pick, after nit pick. If every fucking character did everything logicaly, then what is the point of the show? No one would get bit, no one kill zombies, and everyone would be fortified in some stronghold, singing songs, and making canned beans…
I don't see how Rooker's redneck character is a complete waste of time. I thought it showed pretty damn effectively that danger can be within as well as outside a group. They also need that segment to fully point out as Rick says Merle Dixon, "There is no black or white. Only white meat and dark meat. Us and them."
And I love how Darabont first shows Dixon, mirroring Morgan in Episode 1, firing on the zombies with a rifle, except Morgan did it to draw his wife to put her out of her misery (and failed) but Dixon just enjoys it.
I haven't read the comic because the stories been done to death. But dropping the show is NOT AN OPTION. Why? For the same reason I defended Kill Bill to its detractors: where else are you gonna get that level of high-quality chop-socky in your diet? In this case, they are putting a lot of effort into a throwaway genre. Appreciate it.
Look at the torso zombie. Not a lot of work/time to conceive and draw it. I can look at it all day, and only get what I bring to it. But you're looking at 10x the effort to design a makeup, hire an actor and staff, then get it onscreen with music. And in ten minutes it can make you cry. Or at least think deeply. Seriously E? You would go back the comic? Ok fine.
Stock archetypes? Name one character on tv that isn't, or isn't soon becoming cliche. "Oh no, another generic group of survivors, how meh- but wait! A racist, how lazy! Fuck that. Without the stupid people on Night of the Living Dead, the group would've survived easily, the movie would have been 10 minutes long and would have had nothing to say about society. Is that better?
Cliches become cliche for a good reason. Some anvils need to be dropped.
I like you writers, and most of your writings, but here you sound like the whiny air travellers Louis CK spoke of, sitting on a chair IN THE SKY and all you can say is "mmmbut it doesn't go back a lot boo hoo". IMHO, even one headshot on weekly television makes up for bad writing, and that fact that I have access to it blows my mind.
I don't give a shit what they changed from the comic. I appreciate good story, and hate bad adaptations, but this one hasn't let me down yet.
I don't watch a lot of TV unless I have good reason to, and I NEED THIS SHOW.
While I enjoy hearing opinions of all kinds, I enjoy tossing mine in the most. There were some good points in this "Tag Team Review", especially Ms. Rappe's comment on Lori's characters (in the comic vs. television). I would agree with her 100% on that. However, I'm also slightly annoyed. Do you all REALLY expect a television series to be exactly like the comic it is based on? If so, let's face it…episode three of TWD would be like the comic volume four or five. At that speed, they would have to end the show around season two or three because Kirkman and crew couldn't keep up! To be honest, and I do not mean this in a cruel way, but I think you all set yourselves up for disappointment. A few of you bring up "Stephen King miniseries," and then leave negative comments about that as well. What made you disappointed in those? Do you all prefer his books to the screen adaptations? Or do you just dislike his stuff in general? Really I am not even sure why everyone brings that subject up and then compares the two. I think at that rate, you all should bring up other similar topics like how most, if not all, books/comics are better than their screen versions. Most people will agree with you! So again, I think you all set yourselves up to be disappointed by the television series. They have to add in new characters and extra material, otherwise people like us would know everything that's going to happen. That may sit well with some, but not for others. You can't possibly please everyone. I also wanted to add that I enjoyed JFGI's comment. Thank you. Just enjoy the show for what it is, not what it isn't. Otherwise if you can't handle it, don't watch. Finally, I would just like to add that I think Rooker's character should stick around for the Prison/Governor arc. I really do hope that they go back and save him, because I can see him going from being a least favorite character to being the exact opposite if written correctly.
I haven't read the comics and/or Steven Kings books. I really don’t see the point in ever comparing the two either. One things I wanna add to this is that it's sad that writers have to make characters seriously this stupid to try to make this genre still work. This use to work back in the 80/90's but.. Common.. It’s 2010.. I know.. I know.. if you make everything perfect they can survive the situation easily and there wouldn't be a show.. I know.. But there are smarter ways to doing this… (Will explain below)… So far in the show they made the characters so blatantly stupid it's laughable. What I DID like was that at the end of episode 1, Glenn told Rick how stupid his actions were… "Hey moron.. You in the tank..".. That gave me such a good feeling that the show actually sees the old clichés in the genre and tries to move on to doing something smarter. It gives hope that new characters might actually be ‘humans in survival mode’. I was really excited after the first show. I forgave Rick for his mistakes because of what Glenn said to him. But then episode 2 came about and all my hopes were shattered… GOD… More stupidity…
Seriously… If you feed the public too many situations where they go ..”Why the hell did you do that for?”.. You will lose them!! Cause people will just get frustrated… because it’s a situation they can possible get out of themselves but these characters just don’t try.
Here’s an example how you can make the characters THINK like they are humans in survival mode. “the mother in the forest looking for a good shag”. When you hear something flakey, you know the situation… RUN… RUN to safety of your friends or something.. Now.. How would you do this in a TV show? She starts running and runs into the a zombie/the guy (making the mistake of looking back or something). That way you have a scare moment for the public as well. It’s cliché, of course. But it’s a smarter cliché.. She atleast ‘tried’ to get to safety. Now she just stands around waiting to get jumped. STUPID!
There are SOO many of those situations in episode 2 it’s laughable… Yeah… lets shop around for jewelry, Let’s not even TRY to barricade/blind the glass doors… Hell, barricading the doors could have been a challenge on its own… They didn't use it.
The movie “Zombieland “ made VERY good use of smarter thinking. This show as yet to even try. I hope to see ‘Glenn’ back in the show. He atleast tries to survive.. He thinks… “A zombie is noticing me.. shit… Let’s try to make a zombie sound”.. He tried AGAIN… As for the rest of the characters… We’re following a bunch of knob idiots.
Praise Allah that I found this little gem of a review—you guys/girl nailed it and I will be reading all other reviews of yours in the future…
Also- how the hell did these zombies take over everyhing? It reminds me of that cheesy Austin Powers joke where the guy gets run over by the steam roller from 100 yards out. THEY'RE COMING FOR US—VERY SLOWLY!!!
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