
After a long and protracted nightmare, and a week after everyone stopped caring, I’ve finally seen Sucker Punch and can talk (sort of) intelligently about it.
I’ll be honest – I haven’t read a lot of reviews, not even those written by my best friends. I try to experience films without someone else’s voice in my head, especially if I’m going to write about them, because I don’t want to ape anyone’s voice. But I read a lot of reactions because Twitter was lit up over the weekend. It was fascinating to see the bile and passion hurled at this film. I became desperate to see it primarily to know what side I fell on. Would I be one of those who thought it was a misogynist fleshfest? Or would I see it as a feminist screed? Would I love it? Hate it? I became more interested in my reaction than the film. (As I sat in the theater, I thought what a costly experiment that actually was, and shouldn’t I just spend my money to hang out with Bradley Cooper? But Cooper can’t write my column. Sucker Punch was going to provide material.)
As usual, I fall in the maddening neutral zone that doesn’t win academic grants, and doesn’t bank in a lot of online traffic. I thought the film was all right. I didn’t love it. I didn’t loathe it. The fundamental problems I have with it are, I imagine, what many have already pointed out. The characters are thinly sketched, and the performances (save for Oscar Isaac’s) uninspiring. The narrative layers are ludicrous. The fantasy effects are a hodgepodge of slick references that firmly paint it as Zack Snyder’s fantasy world, not Baby Doll’s. It also played my least favorite story trick ever, which was to have a narrator that is relaying events that he / she cannot possibly have seen.

The crucial problem is the overarching threat, though. I feel like this was a script that originally had a lot more sinister eroticism and sexual danger, and it was whitewashed for ratings and box office purposes. I think this is a big reason as to why the story fails, especially in the third act. It’s well-publicized that Snyder cut the sex scene between High Roller and Baby Doll for the rating, and it takes the intensity, symbolism, and emotion out of the ending. The dream layers would be thin enough, but without the real sleaze of the brothel or the hospital, we have no sense these girls are actually preyed upon. If we did, the battle scenes would make slightly more sense. They would be a release of anger and frustration, and we’d be invested in the outcome. (The video game analogy lobbed at Punch doesn’t quite work, but the music video one does. I care about diffusing a bomb in a video game. I don’t care if a pop idol succeeds.)
I had read The Art of Sucker Punch several weeks ago, so I came into the film with a lot of background as to what Snyder’s ideas and intentions were. One of his failings (and Sucker Punch exploits it terribly) is that he gets very caught up in details and epic “awesomeness,” and it don’t always translate. There are things in that book – the smiling rabbit, for instance – that are supposed to mean a great deal to Baby Doll, but they got lost somewhere in edits, rewrites, and action plotting. I know Snyder had a very solid idea when he started out on Sucker Punch. It was clear from his book foreword that he was very taken by stories of mental institutions, the women put in there, the barbaric “cures” and how one might cope with the crime and sentence put upon her. It was a story he wanted to explore in all of its cold brutality. It’s unfortunate he wasn’t able to really tell it, but I can applaud him for trying, and hope that next time (and I do think there should be a next time) he has someone who can rein in his worst impulses. There’s a good director here, and an original, vivid mind at work. It bothers me to see so many people saying “To hell with this guy!” because this is a man who is desperately trying to be innovative, and share his enthusiasm and inspiration. He doesn’t always succeed. Maybe that’s enough for a lot of viewers. I certainly know people have very, very strong feelings on his films – and I’ll freely admit I don’t share the criticisms of Dawn of the Dead, 300, or Watchmen – but that, I think, means he’s got more worth than even his harshest critics want to admit.

I think Sucker Punch is a stumbling block for Snyder, not the defining thud of his career that it’s being portrayed as. Frankly, I don’t think it’s as wretched a product as some are screaming it is. But no one is going to get noticed if they say “Eh, it has flaws, but there were some interesting things there. Curious to see the Director’s Cut.” No, they’re only going to get followers and hits if they scream it’s the death of cinema. Sucker Punch is not the death of cinema. Not by a long shot. It’s just disappointing, primarily because its ambition exceeded the collective talents behind it.

But let’s jump to the really furious debate. Is it a film for the male gaze, or is it third wave feminism? Well again, I fall somewhere in the disappointing middle, though I lean towards “feminist.” Snyder has stated, again and again, that he wanted their clothes and their attitudes to make men feel uncomfortable. He wanted them to be using sexuality as a weapon. He wanted them to own it and turn the kinkiness of fishnets and corsets inward. Is it effective? Kind of. It is a little too shallow and silly, and the designs are based primarily in what Snyder thinks is cool or sensual. I wish he’d had each actress work with Michael Wilkinson to design her own warrior costume, because I would have liked to have seen the results. I suspect that a lot of the same elements (stilettos, corsets, thigh-high stockings) would have been present, mixed liberally with more armor, leather, duster coats, military trappings, and black eyeliner. If you give a girl a treasure box and say “Design your warrior costume. Pick anything you like. We’ll make it look good on you!”, a girl will not pick sweatpants and a hoodie. If she claims she will, then I pity her lack of imagination, and would ask her what statement she’s trying to make. Who is she trying to impress, hmmm?
What did impress me was that while Snyder gave them little to wear, he didn’t shoot these young women in an exploitative way. I had heard accusations – “masturbatory” was a word thrown around a lot – that he had, so I did the pervy thing. I focused on the T&A and looked up Baby Doll’s skirt. Does he zoom up it? Does it fly up? Does the camera linger on her boobs? On anyone’s boobs? Any crotch shots? Any arched backs and porn expressions? No. It was not the feeling I experienced during Sin City, Tomb Raider, The Spirit, Charlie’s Angels, or the Megan Fox snippets of Transformers. There are directors who shoot as if they are fondling their actresses. The camera becomes very penetrative. As a woman, it has made me feel uncomfortable. Sucker Punch was a rare exception to that. I admired them, I thought they looked good, but I didn’t feel as if I’d just visited Fleshbot.

Frankly, Baby Doll owns the hell out of that sailor outfit, and she does it because it’s forced on her. When she realizes in that first fight what she’s capable of, I sense that she keeps it on as a badge of honor. She walks away uninjured despite wearing thigh-highs and high-heels. It’s impossible. She knows it is. And she exults in it. I’m not sure the subversion works (and some of that may even be due to Emily Browning’s performance), but it’s an attempt and at least it didn’t leer at its characters, which is more than I can say for any other latex clad lass. When Baby Doll & Company stride down that WW1 trench, there was no bouncing flesh, no slow pan over thighs and curves. They were soldiers, daring anyone to raise an eyebrow and offend them over gender, over their clothes, over their right to be there. There wasn’t a single moment where they had to explain themselves or their abilities to anyone. I kept waiting for the Wise Man to goad them on with some sexist dig or someone to wolf whistle at their outfits, but it never happened. Did I stand up and cheer over it? No. It wasn’t remotely at that level. But I did admire the confidence and swagger of its presentation, and accepted and understood that they wanted to wear those outfits into battle. I believed they had chosen them for the cool factor, not for how they made the onlookers feel.
Now, I’ve worn a lot of crazy things — corsets, costumes, stilettos, fishnets, belly shirts, and halter tops. I’ve worn them all because I wanted to. I was proud of the way they looked. There’s pleasure in the restrictions, the exposure, and the feel that have absolutely nothing to do with the male gaze, and everything to do with your own attitudes and desires. It’s the same reason I love wearing make-up. It’s the sheer pleasure of putting the stuff on and seeing a new face – my face, but tweaked – emerge. I love going out with that face, and owning it. Many of the so-called “feminine” things I do to myself — manicures, pedicures, my jewelry, my lingerie, my perfume, my haircuts or high heels — I actually do for myself. I resent anyone who tells me it’s all symbols of patriarchy and oppression. I’ve been told – as if I don’t know my own mind – that I do it for men, all for men, and that I just can’t accept this subconscious reasoning. It’s difficult for some to accept that a woman might take any pleasure from the appearance, sight, and feel of her own flesh. (Surely men experience this – the way a certain outfit looks, or the way their hair is styled, or the cologne they like – and it is also disconnected from its possible sex appeal?)

It may not be fashionable to admit it, but I liked that about Sucker Punch. I got where it was coming from. There is a part of me it tapped into who has always wanted to put on an impractical outfit and fight monsters. In my mind, it’s always been the equivalent of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando, with just as much exposed skin and muscle, but with a little more style. Lots of leather and metal, preferably. I’d like to cut people in half, lug around a big gun, and fly bomber planes. Perhaps I’d like to do these things because they are what a man would do, or maybe it’s the bloodlust inherent in all of us. How do you know what I, as a woman imagines when she’s idle? You don’t. Perhaps Snyder shouldn’t have tried to guess either, but at least he thought beyond “She would imagine a beautiful wedding!” He sees women as possessing some backbone, as not being completely alien from a man. It’s a step forward.
If you want to say the movie is dumb or a mess, I’ll agree with you. I won’t (I can’t) argue that Snyder has penned some third-wave feminist manifesto. He hasn’t, and he indulged his own quirks too much so that Sucker Punch isn’t as deep or as revolutionary as it could and should be. But I don’t agree that he’s somehow double-crossed audiences and tried to pawn off sexist imagery for feminism. I don’t think he believes girl power lies only in masculine fantasy and imagery. I think he truly tried to take what bothers and annoys him about the exploitation of women (including, perhaps, his own fetishes), and tell a story that exploded them. Unfortunately, it didn’t really ignite, but I can salute Snyder for at least trying to think it through.
I also appreciate the dialogue that’s sprung up around the film, and what its characters, their clothing, and their actions represent. It’s the conversation I wish would spring up around more girly garbage like He’s Just Not That Into You (a film that is far, far more of a feminist horror show than Punch), or Michael Bay’s use of Megan Fox. It seems we only have it around Twilight installments, so it’s nice to have one around a movie with explosions, swords, and guns. Perhaps this is the first ping of a bigger and better discussion and movement for women in cinema. But I fear it’s just the brief flare-up before the mainstream oogles the next piece of pouting action ass trotted out in a summer blockbuster, with nary a whisper of concern or sexism to be heard.





16 comments
THANK YOU for having the brains to see that the video game analogy does not work. I’ve been saying this since the movie came out, and while I liked the movie (didn’t love it, mind you), I do plan on picking it up on blu because the visuals were fantastic.
I never once saw the video game comparison as making sense. I’m happy to see that one of the better writers on this site feels the same way. Validation I’m not crazy!
Also, scratch that “having the brains” comment, it can be seen as dickish. “Having the guts” works better. Great article, either way!
I agree about the feminism angle. Snyder was trying to do something real there. But the film was awful and I am not interested in seeing the director’s cut. I am not interested in seeing it ever again. I found it dull and incredibly corny. And don’t talk to me about the “awesome visuals” because I didn’t see any. There was nothing in it I’d never seen before. The steam powered soldiers were kind of cool and a clever way to replace geysers of blood with PG13 puffs of steam, but other than that it’s all been done before. The main thing that keeps it from being exciting is the way it’s presented. The camera work, editing and choreography in the action scenes were nothing great. They did not thrill. They did not excite. There were better and more thrilling visuals in Limitless.
An excellent article. Well-written, intelligent and, most of all, calm. No venom or hyperbole.
Simply put, you are becoming the only writer that keeps me coming back here on a regular basis.
Well done.
Please tell me where you have seen in live action movies with someone taking on giant samurai with crazy weapons, or fighting a dragon and orcs with high powered machine guns, or a train full of robots being murdered, because I want to see those movies.
Maybe you’ve seen something similar in an anime or a comic book but I’m having a hard time thinking of a live action movie with something comparable.
And I thought the camera work was pretty cool, what with using (a still decipherable) shakey cam for the WWI scene and no-cut seamless shot on the monorail scene. They certainly got me excited, but maybe you’ve just scene way more action movies than me, I don’t know.
Anyways, sorry if I’m picking on you, but I keep hearing people say: “Oh, I’ve seen it before,” and I just honestly want to know where.
And great review, Elisabeth. While I think I enjoyed the visuals more than anybody, I do agree on everything.
What this doesn’t explain is that girls have appropriated the male gaze and male lens for themselves.
As for this: ” ‘Design your warrior costume. Pick anything you like. We’ll make it look good on you!’, a girl will not pick sweatpants and a hoodie. If she claims she will, then I pity her lack of imagination, and would ask her what statement she’s trying to make. Who is she trying to impress, hmmm?” I think that’s pretty sad. Again, young women are taught to excite an invisible audience. If their sexuality is invisible, then so are they. Even if the audience is just themselves… again, women are trained to appropriate the male lens.
Saddest part of the anti-feminist nature of this film is that it is so sneaky. It’s not a matter of, if the girls choose the costumes themselves then it can’t be anti-feminist. I say they don’t know any better, otherwise, they’d never choose to be depicted that way.
Where?
Brazil. Dragon Wars. Aeon Flux (the animated version). Any number of movies from live action Asian cinema (See Casshern for likewise over-rendered, beautiful-but-cluttered imagery and un-moving battle sequences) as well as Straight-to-video CGI/Greenscreen steampunk shit-fests like like the Mutant Chronicles.
If you mean “Where have we seen it in a mainstream, live-action Hollwood Blockbuster before?”, then just fuck you right in your brain fella.
To be honest, I’m trying to reconcile the above opinion with your love of happy whore movies: /25890/what-im-thankful-for-101410/
I’m not trying to be creepy or nasty — the post made me laugh and stuck with me, and now jumps out at me as a complete contradiction to this. 😛 Weren’t the girls of Sucker Punch essentially (when we first meet them, anyway) the equivalent of the happy whore film … and once they decide they don’t want to be whores anymore, can’t they still appropriate those thigh-high boots you like in Pretty Woman?
I do think it’s sad if a woman, when given a choice of what she would wear as a fantasy warrior, would choose to wear sweatpants and hoodie because she’s convinced that’s the only feminist option. If that’s what she really, really wants to wear, I’m not going to stand in her way. But out of all the options available in that fantasy box (and it’s a box of limitless choices) she can’t even pick out a cool coat or spiffy uniform, and frowns on everyone’s choices, insisting hers is the only practical and feminist one, then…yeah, I’m going to wonder what statement it is she’s making and why she is afraid to express herself. I mean, there’s fatigues in that box too….
I’ll admit, it’s a crappy metaphor or example. I see it in forums a lot when some superheroine costume is unveiled — Wonder Woman would fight in sweatpants! She’s invincible, so she should be comfortable! — and it gets pretty preposterous. If Wonder Woman is invincible, why shouldn’t she wear a bustier if she wants to? I’m not going to ever tell a woman what she can or can’t wear, or tell her she’s being too sexual, or that she’s only doing it so a man will look at her. (And where does that leave lesbians? Are they looking through a male gaze as well? Because I find sexuality and attraction to be way more complicated than that.)
I don’t feel like a woman has to cover up, disguise that she’s female, and be ashamed of herself because any other option is exciting an audience. That leaves what, a burqa? A 19th century dress that hides the legs, lest they suggest sex? This is what women did for centuries — hide, hide, always hide, lest they be considered whores or excite men too much by the sight of their limbs — and I’m not keen to go back to it.
Personally, I think everything is meant to be worn, exploited, questioned, and used how someone sees fit. What makes Abbie Cornish’s hooded coat or armor sexual? What makes her corset sexual, and different from a fabric tanktop? Same fit, same design. Both were once meant to be worn as underwear. One’s been re-appropriated, why not the other? If I want to wear black leather boots (and I do, all the time, though they’re usually of the motorcycle variety), do I have to avoid it because black leather has been sexualized by particular men? Or do I wear them anyway, re-interpreted on my body, representing something to me and me alone?
I don’t believe every choice a woman makes is in the interests of sexuality, or that she’s too brainwashed to know better. I believe a mature, intelligent woman is fully capable of picking out what she wants to wear, exposing what she wants to expose, and behaving as she wants for her own enjoyment — for her own power and visibility in the mirror.
I think it’s demeaning to assume women are so weak and feeble that they’ve been utterly indoctrinated by men, and can’t get out of that mindset. What’s the solution? What option do they have of physically expressing themselves? Do we deny we’re women, because women are inherently attractive to men? Do we stop doing anything we might enjoy because it may or may not originate in sexual attraction? Where does that stop?
And oh, the irony of me writing this, when I live in hoodies, long-sleeved t-shirts, and combat boots. I must sound like I wear fishnets around the house. But I *have* worn corsets, and at least one side-boob exposing dress, and I know why I put them on, and how I felt when I wore them, and how I feel when I see the photos of myself in them. I admire myself for my own sake. My own lens. All it takes is self-awareness — and I’ll grant you, there are a LOT of women who lack it — and self-respect. I’m not going to dare be the person who decides what clothing, behavior or attitude represents that for every woman. Feminism is supposed to be about choice, not a lockstep movement attempting to create featureless, genderless, identity-less beings.
Well, I’m not going to touch the feminism angle here, but let me put on my Tim Gunn hat here and say that the hoodie/sweatpants trend is lazy, lazy, lazy.
Ladies, it doesn’t matter how much you spend on those sweats. You’re wearing pajamas outside. In public.
*wags finger*
Just out of curiousity I read this article. Frankly I could care less about the movie, haven’t seen it, and don’t ever plan to see it. It just looks like fanbiy wank and by default, just an excuse to showcase the latest VFX software. Plus, add to the fact that it is a musical (a genre I absolutely loathe and have no use for), it became apparent that its chances of receiving my hard earned cash was minimal.
Zack Snyder certainly tries hard and seems well intentioned. His biggest failed seems to be he’s just not that bright. Numerous interviews has shown he clearly doesn’t understand the subtext the writers have put into his previous films, so when he comes along as the sole creative voice on this mess it’s not surprising that he’s completely unable to add anything meaningful beneath the surface polish. Sucker Punch isn’t the last nail in his coffin, but the new Superman movie very well could be.
“I think it’s demeaning to assume women are so weak and feeble that they’ve been utterly indoctrinated by men, and can’t get out of that mindset.”
Not so much men but generations and generations of humans molded by an almost univeral patriarchy, the front and center of every major civilization throughout history. Seems like a big hurdle.
And I really can’t get behind a women dressing provocatively strictly for her own enjoyment.
“I believe a mature, intelligent woman is fully capable of picking out what she wants to wear, exposing what she wants to expose, and behaving as she wants for her own enjoyment — for her own power and visibility in the mirror.”
I feel like i don’t understand the source of that power. It seems like it would boil down to attention from other people, male or female.
Really good to hear an insightful analysis from a woman on this. Facinating perspective.
What Nardo said.
Also, taking on a giant samurai with crazy weapons, as it is depicted in Sucker Punch, is not all that exciting. It knocks her around a bit. She jumps at it, cuts it a few times. That’s it. How is that new or thrilling?
And the giant samurai looks like a video game cut scene. It’s obviously not meant to look photoreal and I’m not going to touch the whole Sucker Punch is a video game argument, but if you want visuals that equal or out do Punch in the cool department you can find them in many different video games. When it comes to films you have to do something fresh with the visuals as well as incorporate them into the film in an organic way. Story, theme, character, atmosphere, the choreography of the action. Just putting it in the frame is not enough.
The long take is all very well and good, but the action in that scene is completely repetitive. Just smashing and smashing and smashing and
Not to mention, make all the slow mo normal speed and that samurai scene is thirty seconds long.
Eh, it has flaws, but there were some interesting things there. Curious to see the Director’s Cut.
Sadly, this is basically my opinion. Plus it really does sound like there is a better film to be produced from the footage Snyder shot. I’m sure none of it fixes the fundamental flaws in the film, but hopefully the additional footage might make it a more interesting picture.
Very good Rappe. You failed to mention how absolutely awesomely sexy and lethal Abbie Cornish looks in this movie. Even if a lot of geeks somehow find the less threatening smaller girls more appealing- they truly are scared of a real warrior woman it seems.
Thanks for this. You made a lot of points that I agree with (especially pointing out that the Michael Bay helmed TRANSFORMERS flicks commit the crime of sexism ((and I would say downright chauvinism and mysogyny at times)) far more than anything in SUCKER PUNCH) and some that I don’t, but I appreciate everything you wrote. Although I still wouldn’t agree that SUCKER PUNCH is “dumb” as you do later in the article, Snyder’s latest definitely stumbles and has a hard time articulating its message. I truly hope this is part of his evolution as a filmmaker and not the demise.
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