
The kingdoms of Nunziata, Miller and Rappe have gathered to melee on “The Wolf and the Lion.”
Josh: Well, well, well. After the mostly uneventful breather the show took during “Cripples, Bastards, and Broken Things” shit really started hitting the fan in “The Wolf and the Lion.” This was an ep of clashing titans, so to speak. Ned first clashed with King Robert over a hit-job on the Targaryens, then he finally broke the sexual battle tension between himself and Jamie Lannister. The two Clegane brothers duked it out in front of the tournie crowd. The King and Queen finally “had it out” on the topic of King Robert’s true love, Ned’s dead sister. And the two smarmiest schemers in the realm, Littlefinger and The Spider, had the most passive-aggressively ambiguous throw down ever. Plus, we finally got to see some dragon skulls in a scene that began linking this “game of thrones” we’ve been hearing so much about in Westeros more officially with the events across the Narrow Sea. And Tyrion finally took a life in battle before finding himself at the mercy of a creepy breast-feeding crazy person.
Wow. What an episode. “The Wolf and the Lion” made me feel like we were being a bit impatient last week. At least Rappe and I. ‘The Mountain That Rides’ got his due set-up, and Sansa found a reason to smile. What is making me continue to fall deeper into love with this show is how it handles its small things. Even amongst the exciting fights and battles found in this ep, the most winning moments continue to be purely conversational. Mark Addy is doing some truly wonderful things with King Robert, who continues to surprise us with just what an asshole he is beneath his beerhall charm. I think the scene between him and the Queen may be my favorite moment with the actor thus far. And I was about to slobber all over Dinklage too, but I know Nick will want in on that, so I’ll pass things off here.
Elisabeth: I dug this episode a lot. When you behead a horse in the opening scenes (surely one of the most horrific things I’ve seen on television), you set a bar you’re going to have to meet. “Lion” didn’t really drop the ball from that point on, it was all sex and violence, and how intertwined they are in this bored, postwar kingdom.
I will say that I think I’m right about Sansa being miscast. She held her own in “Kingsroad” but that had to be the most unconvincing “Yay!” and “Oh. Oh no. Oh Father, do. not. let. him. die” acting this side of The Phantom Menace. I realize that next to spunky little Maisie Williams (who owns every scene Arya appears in with humor and bravado) a lot of child actors are going to suffer, but come on. If I’m wrong later on, I’ll be happy to admit it (and pleased to be wrong!) but I really think this is why they’re limiting her interactions with every character she’s supposed to be dealing with. Either that, or they really didn’t expect to have a season two, so they just went “Eh. She can just sit there.” And poor Ms. Turner didn’t have anything to work with *but* “Oh. No. Don’t let them!”
I loved the fight between Sandor and the Mountain. I’m sorry I expressed any disappointment with Sandor’s casting because that guy can deliver a lot of character acting just in the way he holds himself, and swings a sword. I like that this simmering violence is beginning to just explode everywhere in little fits and starts, and right as Robert is lamenting what a kingdom becomes in times of prosperity. Much has been made of men of winter versus men of summer, and we’re seeing just what happens when you keep men of winter and war in peacetime a little too long. Jaime was practically drooling at the thought of having an excuse to chop at Ned.
And while this was an episode of lots of tension and action, I just don’t think you can say enough about the performances. Petyr versus Varys, Sandor, the look in Ned’s eyes as Jaime trotted off, Tyrion’s terror, Catelyn’s guilt, Lysa’s madness, Cersei’s coldness, and Robert’s bombast. (They’re matching the book page for page — this is exactly the point I was fed up with him, and the show has matched it perfectly in action and Mark Addy’s performance.) This is why I come down so hard on the one character that doesn’t work for me, particularly as I know she’s got to step up if this saga is going to play out as it needs to.
Nick: Well, I finally know what a penis looks like.
This was a terrific episode. It moved, shit it practically flew past with all the moments where all this tension and hate was able to manifest itself in dialogue and violence. I think it’s safe to say that a lot of the complaints of the first several episodes are beginning to fade.
Also, it’s nice to see these supporting characters getting their due. The King and his Wife was a great scene as was the sparring of Ned with his old friend and his old enemy, but it was just as fun seeing tbe schemers get a little more two-dimensional.

Elisabeth: I’m no expert (really, that’s not sarcasm), but I think it was a fake breast. But it’s still a bizarre day at work, and not something I’d be happy to talk about during a school event. “Yes, he was cast in Game of Thrones — oh, you didn’t see him? He was the boob-sucking kid!”
It’s funny, I recap the show for another site where there are a lot of really dedicated GoT fans, and I said “Well, they certainly threw Loras and Renly out of the closet!” and received a lot of emails insisting it had always been really clear cut, and the love between Loras and Renly was deep and well-documented. I remember a lot of whispers and snide remarks, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing on the level that implied they plotted together. It’s not the first time I’ve gotten a “No, you were wrong, it was there all along!” response. It appears that even “off-script” scenes are still moments that are canon among Martin’s fans. It’s curious. I’ve never seen a fandom this supportive of explicit (in a non-sexual sense) character information. Are they pulling stuff from Martin’s deep and exhausting fan forums? I’m beginning to wonder.
Josh: I watched the episode on a fairly small TV, so it was impossible to tell how real that boob looked. Though, given the questionable legality of under-aged titty sucking, I think the presence of a prosthetic breast is likely. But a twisted writer can dream can’t he?!
And — pft! Fanboys. I’ve only read the books once, but I certainly don’t think Renly being gay was ever expressly addressed. But it does kind of seem like the writers are culling from fan forums in a sense, as we’re getting a lot of stuff presented upfront and in the open here (in these first five episodes) that a reader had to piece together (largely on conjecture) over the course of many books. In the case of backstory, I think this is a savvy move for the show.
Nick: The big question for me here now is “what do we need accomplished by the end of the season?”. We’re around the halfway mark now and I don’t know how far into book one we are, but I am concerned that there’s a balance issue at risk here. We’ve made good progress with the King and Ned and the intrigue regarding bastards and murder plots. What we lack is the global threat at hand. What we lack is a revisit on the creepy dudes from the beginning of episode one. What we lack is any real weight to the men on the wall. If I see another scene where the Bastard does something noble and is scoffed at by the rabble or his superiors I’ll be a sad man. Looking at this episode on its own showcases a bloody good time but is it an appetizer or something to keep us sated as things meander for a few episodes. Audiences taste blood now. Can’t let them down after this.
Josh: Rappe or I could of course answer many of those questions (presuming that season one will neatly follow book one to the end), but obviously won’t spoil anything for anyone. I’ll frankly be very curious to see how the non-reader audience responds to the arcs of the full season. Going to be interesting.
We know Rappe isn’t loving Sansa. I’m curious, Nick, is there any particular character that’s chappin’ your ass currently?
Nick: Not really. I’m not a fan of pretty man Lannister because he’s never seemed faceted in any way. Sure, he’s a sisterfucker but that hardly qualifies as much. I live in the South. I need more that a mustache-less mustache twirler, though I did enjoy him being pissed that his soldier interfered with his fight. I’m in the show’s thrall, but so far most of the plots regarding the women seem to be tacked on, the Queen excepted. Also, Mrs. Stark. I get that she’s a strong woman because she took matters into her own hands but without knowing where the story is headed I’m more concerned with this season capitalizing on the growing tension. Even if it means taking a break from the “A” characters. I just got the book so in theory it’ll all compute soon enough.






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Did this tag team get cut somewhere? Seems a lot shorter than normal and jumps straight to what seems to be the end of a fake boob discussion..
The week moved way too fast. We’ll make up for it next one.
Elisabeth is correct in that the books don’t explicitly detail Renly and Loras’ relationship, they only hint at it. Fanboys have the benefit of years of re-reads and forum discussion and have seemingly convinced themselves that they spotted every little detail the first time through. I think it was a good choice to confront it more directly in the show, it strengthens those character’s motivations.
In regards to Nick’s comment about the women’s stories feeling tacked on in the show (as opposed to the book where they have more time to breathe), I would agree, and I think they’ve been pushed to the back in order to devote more time to the central plot. However, I don’t think this will be necessary (or even possible) as the show moves forward.
Yes, in book two it seems like the protagonists are 80+% female. Season 2 will be a much more female-driven show.
Love the site, love the reviews, however despite fantastic reviews of this show that I love the books I feel the team for once “mailed it in” this week. This was the best episode so far and it was glossed over. I dont know if it was a fear of spoilers on the many plotlines to come in the next few episodes. I look forward to the next few reviews. If anyone disliked this episode needs there head examined! There were so many threats to each character it was awesome. No whispers behind backs, just straight up in your face come and get it cupcake!! Can you imagine telling the parent of the kid playing Robin to suckle a fake boob? That must have been quite a negotiation. The only thing missing was the milk mustache, lol.
I didnt remember it in the books either, but as one poster pointed out that Renly’s personal guards were the “Rainbow Guard”. How I missed THAT joke is beyond me? AT first I was it was a gratuitous demo grab but it fits and think it will enhance the story like some of the differences from the series and the books. I just dont see how they are going to hit the major points with soooo many characters in what I assume will be the typical 5 year arc that HBO runs their series? So far I am most pleased and hope it doesnt get dropped.
As to the increase of women roles in the series they will increase but not 80%? They will become better characters with more depth but thats it as far as I’m concerned. Great casting HBO, so far you guys nailed it!
As Mr. Nick just said above, this week simply got away from us. It was a choice between having something short or having nothing. We chose something short. So, not mailed in so much as it was unfinished.
It’s also hard (at least for me) to find anything to say about the really, really, good episodes, especially in a context where you can’t spoil anything. This set up a lot of stuff, and I’m sort of chomping to talk about where it GOES … but I can’t!
And yes, the week got away from us. I think we all settled into a “That was cool, wasn’t it!” mode.
Sorry people, my intention wasnt to offend, but I guess after looking what I wrote I can see that it was a bit “harsh”. Like I said this is a great site that I use to get an idea if seeing this show or that movie is worth my time. Seeing your reviews of the episodes of GOT gave a different perspective to enhance the viewing like LOST or Battle Star G. I just had high expectations of a huge review following this boombastic episode. This episode sets the scene for people that havent read the books to hook them into continuing to tune in. I love this show and believe it will get cancelled prior to completion. It has been a growing trend of great shows that get axed or hurried that somehow cannot generate huge revenue to compensate the budget. I understand that there are many things you have to review and write about on a daily/weekly basis. If I offended then I apologize. It wasnt my intention. I look forward to reading more reviews.
Renly and Loras gay? I don’t know can’t two bros just shave each other and hang out? 🙂 seemed innocent enough…
As someone who read the books i never picked up on it but i wasn’t really looking though…
also ER you didn’t say wether you thought that was a real weiner or not??? if it was real and mine i would show it every episode in hopes people don’t look at my f-ed up teeth… 🙂 that actor needs to get those fixed and shave that bad white trash facial hair or get makeup to fill it in better.
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