STEVE JOBS HAS PASSED AWAY

You were a titan among men, Mr Jobs, and you will NEVER be forgotten

 

 

Christ Kate, it's not Ghandi or Louis Pasteur we're talking about here. God damn modern society needs its priorities examined.

 

Don't worry RD, I got the message from you when you called him a "salesman" and talked about some may "hate" him

He *is* a Titan, a once in a century individual. I feel lucky to have been alive in his time. Because make no mistake, we now exist in the Age of Steve Jobs

Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

No. Steve Jobs

I'm curious, Rain Dog, do you consider all innovators and inventors to be worthy of such scorn? Did Edison not make the world better? Did Bell? What about the men who pioneered the railroads or space flight? I don't know whether to call your grandstanding argument fucked or flawed. Probably...flawed.

Look I'm not going to get into a pissing contest about this. The guy was a truly amazing salesman, but to compare him to Edison and the like - people who actually changed the world for the better and made tangible and concrete advances to help all of humanity - is mind-boggling to me but then I get the feeling I'm going to end up arguing with zealots intent on tearing down the blasphemer.

 

I'm out, have fun with your hagiography.

RD isn't heaping scorn on Jobs, he is rightfully heaping scorn on a delusional individual who felt a "physical gut-punch" from the death of a man she didn't even know.  She felt this "physical gut-punch" so much she was compelled to post her hyperbole in two separate threads as well as complain that the death of a tech giant wasn't appropriate for the Tech Forum on these boards.  Delusional.

 

What's the over-under on him kicking this weekend and the family and company holding off the announcement until today to get past the product launch? 

For everyone else without an axe to grind, take a look at this Jobs anecdote and tell me he did not possess a uniquely superior intellect, that he did not represent the best in us, the best of our species:

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His team developed dozens of sophisticated mock-ups and gathered to
present them to Jobs. "He picks up a marker and goes over to the
whiteboard," remembers Evangelist, "He draws a rectangle. 'Here's the
new application,' he says. 'It's got one window. You drag your video
into the window. Then you click the button that says BURN. That's it.
That's what we're going to make.'"

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Edited by Princess Kate - 10/6/11 at 9:50pm

...and back onto ignore she goes.

 

Thirty minutes, she lasted just thirty minutes. I only bothered because someone in power here thought she was worth a second chance.

 

Nup. Still isn't.

Thanks for shitting all over the thread right from the start guys.

Joblessness brings out the worst in everyone.

 

Sorry, sorry.

 

I'm not a mac guy, but I know I probably should be. This is no tragedy; it's a gauntlet thrown down. Top THAT by 56, motherfuckers. (mic drop)

You do much to honor Jobs and his legacy, Renn. APPLE loyalists will not forget it

PS You may wish to submit a link to your obit to apple at REMEMBERINGSTEVE@apple.com

I am sure it would do alot to warm their hearts

What's with the "do much" speak? It's vaguely terrifying

 

Feel sorry for his wife and kids and friends.  nice obit, written from the heart obviously Renn, but at the end of the day the world will keep on turning and innovations will keep on happening.

 

I'm sure when Gates passes there will also be a lot of people calling him innovator, Titan etc.

 

I personally don't know who I'd apply those labels to but it's always sad to read of someone dying from cancer.

 

Well there you go, the person that cures cancer, there would be a titan.

 

condolences to his family.

(Sigh).

 

Steve Jobs created the first mass produced Personal Computer (PC). Prior to the Apple I & II, if you as an individual wanted a computer, you had to 1) spend big money for timeshare on a mainframe or 2) buy a kit which you then had to assemble, and sometimes you had to physically re-arrange circuits or components to make it work, and was very limited in what it could do.

 

In successive generations of the Mac PC, disparate elements like the Mouse, a GUI, etc. were incorporated into one intuitively easy to use device, which a large percentage of the population could buy and use in their homes.

 

Steve Jobs is directly responsible for that. He showed IBM, then later Microsoft et al what was possible with a PC. And the PC changed (for the better) every aspect of modern life, from science to Art to Film.

 

I don't get why people on CHUD of all placed would disparage a man who's contributions include high aesthetic standards, an intuitive sense for what a mass audience would enjoy using for commerce (EG Graphic Design was revolutionized by the Mac), entertainment and education.

 

Would you slam Spielberg for those qualities? Would you dismiss Kubrick for being a "great Salesman and Marketer"?

EDITED TO ADD: I have never owned a Mac PC, but I can recognize a major figure and appreciate his achievements.

 

Someone needs to watch PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY. :)

 

Just goes to show, even with more money than Christendom, when Death comes knocking, we all gotta pay the piper sometime.

A great man who has improved many people's everyday life has passed away at the age of 56 and you bicker about whether he was more important than Gandhi, Edison or (insert your choice of super important person in history)? I can only agree with Renn here, "Thanks for shitting all over the thread right from the start guys."

 

The world lost a great visionary today, as well as one of its best speakers (and I mean world-wide here). No matter what you think of Apple, you gotta admit the guy knew how to hold a speech and that the inventions under his leadership has helped push the technology forward.  I raise my glass in his honor. Here's to you, Mr. Jobs!

 

He will sorely be missed.

Honestly a good guy who built out an amazing platform and really pushed the industry of film, music and software. I say pushed, not created.


Way of the future, way of the future, way of the future...

RIP

iPhone 4S - 4 Steve

How is it shitting on the thread by having a different opinion.  If he came out and bold typed "JOBS SUCKED" I'd get that, but I think it's a call for perspective.

 

He made life easier, brighter and shinier for the privileged West.  OUR lives are more convenient and more aesthetically driven than they were before.  But we're not the only people on this planet.  A good proportion of people will never ever be able to have an Apple product (or clean drinking water, or a decent life expectancy) or hell any type of personal computer.  So to talk about him in Messianic terms is a little hyperbolic.  I think that's all RD was saying.

 

I'll say this, with the iphone, it finally feels the the one-stop piece of tech that I always wanted as a kid who loved his computer but couldn't take it with him.

 

That said, if he didn't do it, someone else would have. Or a variation thereof.

 

He did it first, and therefore I will have a glass of scotch in his honor. But not the really really good stuff

 

I think it's perspective that's lacking. It's not just the West that's been transformed by the PC, iPhone etc. Millions of people outside the "privileged West" benefited as much if not more than people in the US and the United Kingdom. In India and China (on fact much of Asia) people are creating new businesses, performing research, helping the poor etc, using the technologies that Apple popularized. I don't think that's an insignificant achievement.

 

Would I compare Jobs to Gandhi? No, because it's an Apples and Oranges comparison. Jobs didn't free a country; but enabled a LOT of people to, in a real sense (if not a politically organized sense) free themselves.

 

Sorry, I'm a bit emotional on this topic: I know a lot of people personally who would have really shitty, miserable lives without these devices that a lot of people take for granted.

 

 

 

Edited by Cylon Baby - 10/6/11 at 8:25am

President Obama honors an American immortal:


Michelle and I are saddened to learn of the passing of Steve Jobs. Steve was among the greatest of American innovators - brave enough to think differently, bold enough to believe he could change the world, and talented enough to do it. By building one of the planet’s most successful companies from his garage, he exemplified the spirit of American ingenuity. By making computers personal and putting the internet in our pockets, he made the information revolution not only accessible, but intuitive and fun. And by turning his talents to storytelling, he has brought joy to millions of children and grownups alike. Steve was fond of saying that he lived every day like it was his last. Because he did, he transformed our lives, redefined entire industries, and achieved one of the rarest feats in human history: he changed the way each of us sees the world. The world has lost a visionary. And there may be no greater tribute to Steve’s success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented. Michelle and I send our thoughts and prayers to Steve’s wife Laurene, his family, and all those who loved him

 

Christ thank you Andy - that's exactly what I was saying.

 

it's the outrageous hyperbole and what that says about our priorities in the west at this point in the human experiment I was making comment on. The fact is he was a genius entrepeneur - but that puts him in the same camp as Richard Branson, not god-damn Thomas Edison.

 

The man was no visionary - very very good at picking the right people - but a visionary looks to ways to enrich ALL of our lives long term - a visionary doesn't encourage people to trade up to another product every 6-12 months, or happily let their vision become everything they supposedly railed against when they started out (the monolithic corporate monopoly of IBM) A visionary doesn't happily move jobs offshore while unemployment cripples the country at home only to have them taken up by glorified indentured chinese slave workers working for five cents an hour or some such.

 

Now that said, I'm not saying he was a bad person or anything else - like I said the man was one of the great entrepeneurs of the last century - but that's all he was. "Influential" most certainly, but 'great'? That's a judgement call I don't know if most in the west these days understand enough to make.

 

He was an amazing business man - is that really enough to be considered 'great' nowadays? Have we really lost our way that much?

 

Sure maybe to Apple shareholders he was a visionary and a messiah for making them money hand over fist, but whats seemingly everyone elses excuse?

 

Personally, I prefer the Pear Book Pro and the Pear Pod.

 

 

Giuess an Apple a day doesn't keep the doctor away.

 

R.I.P.

Regardless of what you think of Steve Jobs, cancer is a motherfucker.

http://pancan.org/section_donate/donate_now.php

He was a smart man who is among the few that shaped information technology to what it is today. He was also a great CEO that knew how to get his company to build cool things.

 

Other than that, please, this is not something to really fuss about. Heads here, Kate of course excluded, are clearer but people are acting as if he was humanity's last defense against some demonic invasion or something. 

Lynch said it best.

Besides that...

RIP STEVE JOBS.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg correctly singles out Jobs as a figure to rival Einstein:



Zuckerberg, meanwhile, gives what is in my opinion a fairly self serving statement. It is blatantly phrased to elevate his own accomplishments (however intangible they may be) to APPLE's level of unparalelled glory, when in reality Jobs is reported to have found FACEBOOK and Zuckerberg distasteful and unwelcome figures on the tech landscape

I'm sorry to "shit on" this thread but Jobs to rival EINSTEIN? You can fuck right off there.

He was a man who excelled in bringing the right people together and recognizing what, already existing techs, would be popular.

To say he rivals Einstein is like saying the Pope who commisioned the Cistine Chapel ceiling is an artist who rivaled Da Vinci.

Enough of the fucking hyperbole already.

Ah, to think of the accomplishments of Steve Jobs. A man. A man who allowed millions to access the internet and realize their dreams of digital democratization. A man who connected us to machinery forever. A man who made us all cry in joy when the handheld devices from 2011: A Space Odyssey entered our lives, and yet only cry further when our minds weren't brilliant enough to find any practical application for them. Ah, Steve Jobs. Every employee of Apple the world over will wear black on this day, for a titan has left the world, and we are emptier for this loss...

 

Seriously. Who the fuck cares? They're just a bunch of fucking computers.

EINSTEIN? FUCKING EINSTEIN?

 

Why not Guttenberg? Aristotle? Pasteur? Darwin? This whole deal is approaching religious levels of fervor and is creeping me the fuck out. I fully expect support groups for bereaved Apple fanboys to start forming in a couple of days. Holy shit this is creepy.

I kinda hope Cameron pops his clogs next week. The fountain of orgasmic deference from PK would power the Eastern seaboard.

 

 

Rain Dog, no offense man, but your definition of visionary has nothing to do with what a visionary actually is. You seem pissed that he wasn't enough of a philanthropist and that's fine but in the world of technology, if Steve Jobs can't be called a visionary then I don't know who can. His company's vision and creations are shaping the future of technology and it can be seen not only in Apple's wares but also in the influence they've had on brands the world over.

yeah but that's no reason to beatify the guy (which is what's happening).

 

The Einstein reference is just the beginning.  It seems like every single little shit celeb and their mother is now looking to get a tweetbite out there that the slack jawed media can punt on.

 

Respect the man, feel for his family, but don't make him out to be more than he was.

 

One thing that amuses me though is the man was well into the benefits of hallucinogens.  Unsurprisingly every eulogy fails to mention that.

 

 

I'd just like to add that Renn's eulogy is a perfect tribute to the accomplishments of the man, and most definitely shouldn't be lumped in with the crazier lovefests doing the rounds.

 

I think Jobs absolutely was a visionary in his field. I think the question is whether that field is as world-changing and universal as some of the tributes are making it out to be.

So, a man dies and you all immediately jump at the chance to take shots at the inevitable Kate reaction and have a massive circlejerk over how he's overhyped and everyone should stop making such a fuss because his amazing career apparently wasn't amazing enough.

 

Great job on this classy, classy thread guys.

Jesus Christ, get the sand out of your vagina.

 

 

Men die every second. Sorry for not weeping openly.

 

I've got Kate on ignore, so I have no idea what she's been saying, but I don't see too many people here promoting his sainthood and yet half this thread is people talking about how unimpressed they are, which is kind of weird. He's a man whose influence has helped shape the world and that's not hyperbole, so while that might not match someone's standards of what makes a man "great", it's also not something to be taken lightly. 

We're nihilists man. We just don't give a shit.

 

In other news, the Westboro loons are going to picket his funeral. 

I'm not saying people should weep, or call the man a genius or a saint. But people who react to deaths with above-it-all snark about how stupid other people's reactions are and how trivial it all is are worse than anyone, and today this thread is by far the worst I've seen for that kind of shit.

 

Whomever doesn't think desktop computing isn't world-changing needs to ready some history. I for one, owe my professional life to the products Steve Jobs helped create.
 

 

Will the people that are sad for losing such an innovator be equally sad when Steve Wozniak dies? Or Tim Berners Lee? Or Gordon Moore? Do they hold vigils at the date of Turing's death? 

 

The sadness has very little to do with the actual areas Jobs innovated in.

 

 

My thoughts exactly. I totally agree with you and RD.

 

An announcement, I might add, which they made via twitter ON AN iPHONE.

You're on reddit too, I see.

 

 

Maybe you could mourn equally for them?

 

I really don't get it. If somebody considers Jobs to be equal to Einstein (even though he isn't), what's it off your back? I mean, is your life more miserable because someone thinks so?

Equally, as in not at all? Yes.

 

If I choose to make fun of ridiculously exaggerated nonsense, what's it off your back? Is your life more miserable?