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Originally Posted by 11thIndian View Post

 

 

I'll give the mac/pc ads, which clearly were looking to grab Windows users frustrated by their experience- and it worked.  But to say there's no Windows zealotry baffles me.  The fact that you can't find a single Apple site where the forums aren't littered with Windows or Andriod trolls, regardless of the topic, is evidence of that.  This very thread is evidence of that.  

 

 

 

 

Well, going back to your original point, clearly there must still be some advantages for users, otherwise why would there still be a increasing curve on the trend towards switching?  As I mentioned, the larger Apple's marketshare grows, the less you can pin Apple's success on Fanboyism.  If these products weren't working for parents, grandparents, college student, creative professionals... surely the word would be out and the jig would be up.  After all, PCs are so much cheaper and do everything just as well!

 

 

 

 

3200 was all about bandwidth- too many people trying to update all at once.  I had my iPad 1 update fail and I had to do a full restore- but all my data was there in the mandatory backup, and iTunes walked me through the process clearly.  And the iCloud thing was a 2 hour outage.  It was fine on the day of, and it's been fine since.  You know as well as I do that everything on Twitter is either a "win" or "epic fail", when reality lies somewhere far between.

 

For someone who seems to spend so much time dipping into Apple related threads on CHUD badmouthing any announcement Apple makes, your comments about zealotry strike me as bizarrely ironic.

 


Exactly. I went to high school and few had even used a Mac outside our labs at elementary school. After years of nagging I convinced my best friend to buy a PowerBook, and literally over night she became one of the most loyal APPLE evangelists I know. I am now auditing a course at a local college, and everyone in the room who brings a laptop to class is using a MacBook or MacBook Pro. The one person who isn't? He seems totally sketchy (his hair is greasy and longer than mine, and he sits by himself off to the side of the room and never says anything). This is anecdotal, yes, but I think it speaks volumes about where the culture is headed

 

Demograhics are power. The younger generation now believes in APPLE, and will teach their kids the virtues of the platform. The ascendency of APPLE and OS X are all but assured, IMHO. I expect 50 marketshare within a decade

 

 


Edited by Princess Kate - 10/15/11 at 8:05pm
post #202 of 358

So you say.  I just like a product that makes my life easier in real world ways, and that's my personal experience with a Mac.  And I don't give a shit if some people who use them can't contains their enthusiasm and irk others.  I wish they wouldn't, but it doesn't affect how the product benefits me.  I've met some assholes that drive Volvos too, but it doesn't mean I like them less.

 

My final thought,

 

People saying, "If you don't use an Apple product you're stupid" are just as wrong as the people saying "If you use an Apple product are stupid.".

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Originally Posted by 11thIndian View Post

So you say.  I just like a product that makes my life easier in real world ways, and that's my personal experience with a Mac.  And I don't give a shit if some people who use them can't contains their enthusiasm and irk others.  I wish they wouldn't, but it doesn't affect how the product benefits me.  I've met some assholes that drive Volvos too, but it doesn't mean I like them less.

 

My final thought,

 

People saying, "If you don't use an Apple product you're stupid" are just as wrong as the people saying "If you use an Apple product are stupid.".



 

Oh I don't think those that don't use Macs are stupid. Microsoft for years was the dominant tech company, and poured billions into propaganda in order to poison word of mouth against APPLE. It's about education. I think there is a Mac person in (nearly) everyone, they just need a chance to make that leap. Anyway I grew up with Volvos, and so you're OK in my book 11thIndian

 

Have a nice night!

post #204 of 358

My comment wasn't towards you, PK.

post #205 of 358
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I've worked in patents. Co-inventor credits - even inventor credits - are a lot like executive producer credits. You might get one just for naming the product or employing the guy who did the work.



Exactly, I had to sign a disclosure at my new job saying my company gets credit for anything I invent. I suspect the Apple one is just as tough.

post #206 of 358


 

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Exactly, I had to sign a disclosure at my new job saying my company gets credit for anything I invent. I suspect the Apple one is just as tough.



If Steve had just been claiming credit for every little innovation on projects he over saw, and not only for concepts that he played a big role in dreaming up, he'd have many more patents than 317

 

post #207 of 358

No he wouldn't.  I'm not expert of Patient law but the company I work for has about the same number going now, yet have had a lot more in the past.  I suspect those are active patients rather than all of them.

post #208 of 358

I'm not really sure it matters either way what patents Steve Jobs has his name on or what role he played.  His strength has always been as a forward thinker, manager, negotiator, and arbiter; not engineer or designer.  People might downplay what that means, but I think that's because great management is a rare commodity.

 

You won't hear one word about Jobs trying to push himself into the creative process at Pixar.  His edict to Lassetter on TOY STORY was "Make it great"- that may sound simple, but it's a pretty wonderful umbrella for creatives to be working under, and a scarce one.  Beyond that, it was Jobs ability to negotiate with Eisner and the like that really made things happen for Pixar, and kept them from getting trampled by the mouse as their creative fortunes reversed throughout the '90s- From a $10M purchase from Lucasfilm to a $2B sale to Disney 15 years later.

post #209 of 358
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Microsoft for years was the dominant tech company, and poured billions into propaganda in order to poison word of mouth against APPLE.


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After years of nagging I convinced my best friend to buy a PowerBook, and literally over night she became one of the most loyal APPLE evangelists I know.

 


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FOX CON doesn't use child labor in iPad productions, and if you're to be reincarnated, odds are you'd cme back as Chinese. This cartoon doesn't work

post #212 of 358

PEOPLE.  HE'S A TITAN.

 

Get with it.  God.

post #213 of 358

Islamic fundies can't laugh at cartoon Muhammads. Coincidence?

post #214 of 358

Figured this was the right place to put this.  Can't wait to read this book about the man, the myth, the legend...Steve Jobs:

 

 

 

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"You're headed for a one-term presidency," he told Obama at the start of their meeting, insisting that the administration needed to be more business-friendly. As an example, Jobs described the ease with which companies can build factories in China compared to the United States, where "regulations and unnecessary costs" make it difficult for them.

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

 

Kind of a dick.

 

More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

post #215 of 358

Pitting Jobs against Obama? Are you *trying* to make PK's head explode?

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Pitting Jobs against Obama? Are you *trying* to make PK's head explode?



I heard Jobs was totally pro-dolphin too.

 

ETA: I like that Jobs' plan to fix our education system is to run it like one of his Apple plants in China.  "We'll install netting outside of the building to catch jumpers too - it'll be great!  Also every study period students will be required to make 30 iPads each, or there'll be a paddlin'."

post #217 of 358

 

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Originally Posted(stolen) by Steve Jobs
 
Good artists copy.  Great artists steal.

 

Pissy tyrants throw hissy fits when great artists do it better than you can.

post #218 of 358

I can just imagine him spazzing out as he's saying it.

 

And for the Nexus One? Why? I've owned one and I've used iphones aplenty and I just fail to see the theft.

post #219 of 358

First, the opening sentence from a piece on Jobs, which I read while waiting in the doctors office yesterday:

 

"Steve Jobs remade the world as completely as any single human being ever has" -Time Magazine

 

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After reading the excerpts from the Walter Isaacson's biography of Jobs, I can only say I am more in love with Jobs than ever before. The man was a force of nature! I'm in awe, and extremely gratified to see Jobs himself echoed many statements I've made in his thread. Most of us are expected to "let things slide", but not Jobs. The memory of what he and Apple suffered at the hands of Gates and the doubters only made him stronger, his boiling resentments fueled his righteous attack:

 

My favorite parts:

 

"I'll spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product."

"Google's products--Android, Google Docs--are shit"

 

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"I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this," he told Isaacson of the patent lawsuit Apple filed against cell phone manufacturer HTC

 

In Isaacson's "Steve Jobs," a copy of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, the author recalls that Jobs, who was known for his fierce temper, "became angrier than I had ever seen him"

 

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On Microsoft:

 

Turns out Jobs couldn't agree more with my assessment of Mr Bill Gates and his charity:

 

 

"Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas."

 

After 30 years, Gates would develop a grudging respect for Jobs. "He really never knew much about technology, but he had an amazing instinct for what works," he said. But Jobs never reciprocated

 

Jobs once declared about Gates, "He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger."

 

"We all have a short period of time on this earth," he told the Sculleys. "We probably only have the opportunity to do a few things really great and do them well. None of us has any idea how long we're going to be here nor do I, but my feeling is I've got to accomplish a lot of these things while I'm young."

 

 

That is Jobs, echoing my exact words about how finite our time on earth is. In all seriousness, you could more readily attribute those quotes to a figure like Alexander the Great than any modern historical personage. Jobs was thinking in terms of his pothos, of a greater destiny unique to him, beyond normal human ambition

 

 

Meanwhile, we learn this:

 

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Did Cannabis Prohibition Kill Steve Jobs?

 

Apple co-founder Steve Jobs died yesterday after a seven-year battle with pancreatic cancer. In 2009, he had a liver transplant.

Steve JobsCannabis activist Steve Kubby, who's chief officer of the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine initiative campaign in California and a cancer survivor, tells CelebStoner:

"One of Job's closest friends, Daniel Kottke, talked with Jobs about using our medical marijuana lozenges to treat his illness. We provided Jobs with peer-reviewed study on the cancer-fighting properties of cannabis, for which I am, literally, living proof.  

"Unfortunately, Jobs was told if it didn't work and he tested positive for cannabis, he would be denied a liver transplant, which his physicians told him was his only other option. Steve Jobs decided against using medical cannabis to treat his cancer, not based on science or medicine, but upon the consequences for him if he used this legal medicine, because of Prohibition and a federal government that puts policy above lives.

"The loss of this visionary pioneer is a loss for the entire planet. Tragically, it appears it might have been prevented."

 

 

Last but not least: To those who think I'd react badly to Jobs and his treatment of Obama? My feelings on Obama have greatly evolved. Obama, tragically, has failed to understand what Jobs innately felt in his core: that you better change the world when you have the chance, or your enemies will steal your power away from you. I wish the President luck in his reelection campaign, but let me be clear: he is no Steve Jobs. In truth, I can't respect a man so pathetically deferential to the forces of darkness. There is no killer instinct in Obama, and it's that drive to realize your will no matter the costs that I value above all else. Sadly, it's a quality lacking in our President

 

On that note.. I very much appreciate that Jobs recognized that as the true visionary, the man who was actually fighting for something greater than himself, he should have been shown special respect by the President that, to his shame, Obama did not provide:

 

 

Jobs, who was known for his prickly, stubborn personality, almost missed meeting President Obama in the fall of 2010 because he insisted that the president personally ask him for a meeting. Though his wife told him that Obama "was really psyched to meet with you," Jobs insisted on the personal invitation, and the standoff lasted for five days. When he finally relented and they met at the Westin San Francisco Airport, Jobs was characteristically blunt. He seemed to have transformed from a liberal into a conservative.

 

Obama invited Zuckerberg to a dinner conceived by Jobs. To elevate a boy with only illusory accomplishments to his name, as an equal to Jobs, was a terrible insult:

 

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Jobs suggested that Obama meet six or seven other CEOs who could express the needs of innovative businesses -- but when White House aides added more names to the list, Jobs insisted that it was growing too big and that "he had no intention of coming."

 

Jobs correctly identified the problem with the President - he lacked the will to remake the world in his own image:

 

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Though Jobs was not that impressed by Obama, later telling Isaacson that his focus on the reasons that things can't get done "infuriates" him

 

Jobs offered to help with the 2008 election, in order to give Obama a margin of victory that would silence the opposition forever:

 


Jobs even offered to help create Obama's political ads for the 2012 campaign. "He had made the same offer in 2008, but he'd become annoyed when Obama's strategist David Axelrod wasn't totally deferential," writes Isaacson. Jobs later told the author that he wanted to do for Obama what the legendary "morning in America" ads did for Ronald Reagan.

 

Of course the President was too wise for that, preferring his strategy of letting the vilest forces of racism and greed get the upper hand in the debate..

 

Obama should have started OWS in his first month in office with a speech to a hundred thousand people on the streets of NYC. With an angry mob clamoring for the blood of bankers, and the President there to lead them, he could have passed any reform he wanted. To quote Lenin "the power was there in the streets, just waiting for someone to pick it up"

 

Instead, we have a "leader" who can only whine that things are "too hard". That Jobs died without getting a chance to run for President, and take this country in a new direction, may ultimately come to be viewed as one of the great tragedies of American history

 

 

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Edited by Princess Kate - 10/21/11 at 8:58am
post #220 of 358

You're insane.

post #221 of 358
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You're insane.



I am only echoing what has been said by world leaders and leading print magazines. On this one, my opinion is the popular opinion

post #222 of 358

Sorry. You're completely insane.

 

Those quotes makes Jobs sound like a total prick.

post #223 of 358
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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

Sorry. You're completely insane.

 

Those quotes makes Jobs sound like a total prick.



 I'll just have to respectfully disagree with you, SeanCE

 

Peace

 

EDIT: I will be purchasing the STEVE JOBS OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHY through the iBooks Store, just FYI

post #224 of 358

No, seriously, you're insane.

 

I really really wanted a gif of James Cromwell blowing his brains out in ERASER to post here. Like, so bad I could taste it. The internet has let me down.

 

Saying you respectfully disagree after posting such inflammatory madness is some Scorched Planet-type passive-aggressive mastertrolling.

post #225 of 358

Yeah I agree with you guys...those quotes make him sound like the world's biggest dick.

post #226 of 358

In fairness, I'm not pretending these quotes make him seem like a really great guy to go see a movie with. He's prickly. He's angry. He's driven. That much is clear. He's definitely not a "nice guy". I just happen to appreciate the same qualities that others loath, but that doesn't mean I'm saying he's a saint. If he were just "Steve Jobs - Dog Catcher", I might say he was pretty crummy

post #227 of 358

Sorry, you're completely fucking insane.

 

You compared Steve Jobs to ALEXANDER THE GREAT.

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Sorry, you're completely fucking insane.

 

You compared Steve Jobs to ALEXANDER THE GREAT.



Alright, well, peace. I can't argue with name calling. I'm sorry you disagree with me, I am just trying to share my opinions about Steve Jobs, opinions shared by leading news publications, citizens and world leaders

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Sorry, you're completely fucking insane.

 

You compared Steve Jobs to ALEXANDER THE GREAT.



You must have missed the story about Jobs' final hours:

 

"Lo, and when Jobs saw the breadth of his iDomain, he wept, for there were no more existing technologies to rebrand." Benefits of a classical education. 

post #230 of 358

This is pretty much the worst thread ever.

post #231 of 358
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Figured this was the right place to put this.  Can't wait to read this book about the man, the myth, the legend...Steve Jobs:

 

 

 

 

Kind of a dick.

 

More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003


His favorable view of doing business in China is disheartening, but he's spot on about the US Education system. Is there seriously anyone who thinks our K-12 (to say nothing of higher Ed) is A-OK?

 



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This is pretty much the worst thread ever.


OH no, look up "FabFunk" and most Star Wars threads started by Devin for the true Dregs......

 


Edited by Cylon Baby - 10/21/11 at 6:39pm
post #232 of 358

None of this should be shocking to anyone who's been reading about Apple for any length of time.  Jobs was opinionated.  Difficult.

 

I could list all the other creative types in the last 100 years that were royal dicks- but the truth is... I just really don't care.

 

I didn't have to work with him, and I'll certainly never get a chance to meet him now, so why should I give a fuck?

 

What I would take issue with is the people who are tying to compare him with Gates and his charitable work.  Is it great that Gates has done what he has with his retirement?  Absolutely.  But I'm not going to knock Jobs for not playing the philanthropist.  He was sort of busy rebuilding a company from the brink of bankruptcy, to jockeying for position with EXXON at the most valuable company in the world.  And he was also fighting fucking pancreatic cancer!

 

Also, for the bad rep that dogs Apple for it's association with FOXCON in China, here's a partial list of their other clients [via wikipedia]:

 

Acer, Amazon, Intel, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Nintendo, Nokia, Microsoft, MSI, Motorola, Sony Ericson, Vizio.

 

Where's the self-richeous moral outrage against these guys?  The truth is if you're a technology company and you want to be price-competitive, your shit is manufactured in China.  It's crap, but until people are willing to pay exponentially more for their electronics (which we'd have to at North American wages), then we should all be shutting the fuck up about it, cause no one's hands are clean.

 

You guys can roll around in these shit "Steve Jobs EXPOSED!!!" articles all you want.  I'm done.

 

 

post #233 of 358

Well, the thing is not that a technology company is getting its shit made in China -- that is not news. The thing is that Jobs, who is hailed as this wonderful society-changer who heralds a new age of humanity or something, did the exact same thing as everyone else and apparently had no qualms about it. For anyone taking a humanist reading of the whole thing, Jobs is just as guilty as everyone of being a neo-colonialist capitalist prick who exploits the helpless -- and why should we laud him as any better just because??

post #234 of 358
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Originally Posted by 11thIndian View Post

 

Acer, Amazon, Intel, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Nintendo, Nokia, Microsoft, MSI, Motorola, Sony Ericson, Vizio.

 

Where's the self-richeous moral outrage against these guys?  The truth is if you're a technology company and you want to be price-competitive, your shit is manufactured in China.  It's crap, but until people are willing to pay exponentially more for their electronics (which we'd have to at North American wages), then we should all be shutting the fuck up about it, cause no one's hands are clean.

 

You guys can roll around in these shit "Steve Jobs EXPOSED!!!" articles all you want.  I'm done.

 

 

Not sure this is true. Advanced manufacturing techniques could enable a company to run an almost automated plant, the catch being that it would require a minimum number of people to run the plant. Auto Unions have fought Robots and advanced automation techniques in the car factories in the Midwest, but Toyota and BMW have assembly plants in the South that are quite efficient and productive. Plus, US Cities and States are willing to provide almost any subsidies and tax relief to any firm willing to locate their business in their territory.

 

I do agree with your larger point that all these vendors are guilty of the same behavior.

 

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If any other CEO/Company with suspicious business practices was held up as an example of the greatest human in the last 200 years, I'd be annoyed as well. But Kate and the Apple-cult take it to a scary degree and position him almost as a religious icon. He's their Buddha. An earthly god. You can respect a man for being a ruthless bastard, exploiting his followers and fans and deliberately, with his board, crafting a culture, a lifestyle aspiration and an image of himself as well as turning the business around when it was dying. That's fine. As long as you're aware he was a fragile, piece of shit person like the rest of us and no better beyond the drive that makes smart men succeed. 

 

And Kate, I reckon you'd really enjoy 'thus spoke Zarathustra'. 

 

Because you're insane.

 

 

post #236 of 358
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But Kate and the Apple-cult take it to a scary degree and position him almost as a religious icon. He's their Buddha. An earthly god.

 


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post #237 of 358

They messed with the wrong guy:

 

Google trembles at the words of Jobs

 

 

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Google can only hope that Steve Jobs' final vendetta doesn't haunt the Internet search leader from his grave.

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Most of all, Google should be worried whether the Android brand is damaged by the withering criticism of a revered figure whose public esteem seems to have risen as friends, colleagues and customers paid tribute over the past few weeks.

 

"The words of cultural icons have a lot of power after death," veteran technology analyst Rob Enderle said. "This almost sounds like a spiritual leader declaring a jihad on Android as his dying wish."

 

Yes!


Edited by Princess Kate - 10/24/11 at 10:25am
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Hahahaha no

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I can't. I just can't. 

 

 

post #240 of 358

Google is going to tremble to the harsh words from a guy who's dead? HA HA HA no..

post #241 of 358

looks at Kate's post out of morbid curiosity

 

Yeah, I'm sure google is crying into their coffee over all the people who would never have bought an android device in the first place continuing to not buy android devices.

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  I'm surprised to hear whining from Jobs about Google stealing from Apple, considering he did the same thing back in 1979 after visting Xerox's PARC think tank.

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But guys, Google is a TITAN and it/they revolutionized our methods of searching the internet! Jobs will NEVER be able to compare to Google's achievements. When he died, when he breathed his last, his last regret was that his passing will be overshadowed by Google's achievements. Especially when the minds behind Google expire. Steve Jobs will be but a distant memory in face of the LOSS of such GREATNESS. 

 

(Am I doing this right?)

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  I'm surprised to hear whining from Jobs about Google stealing from Apple, considering he did the same thing back in 1979 after visting Xerox's PARC think tank.



 

 

Not theft. Xerox didn't understand that the future was in GUI, and they brought Jobs there to give him full access to their ideas and tech with full knowledge he was in the business if designing rival computers 

 

It was dumb, but not a theft. Xerox was a company run by people other than Steve Jobs, so in the end hardly a surprising failure of imagination on their part

 

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PHOTO: Jobs' pantomime bafflement cracks me up! :) 

post #245 of 358

The folks at Goggle don't need to worry about anything as long as Ronny Cox is in their corner

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Not theft. Xerox didn't understand that the future was in GUI, and they brought Jobs there to give him full access to their ideas and tech with full knowledge he was in the business if designing rival computers 

 

It was dumb, but not a theft. Xerox was a company run by people other than Steve Jobs, so in the end hardly a surprising failure of imagination on their part

 

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PHOTO: Jobs' pantomime bafflement cracks me up! :) 



  Jobs is accusing Google of physically stealing code and/or hardware?  If not, then it is the same thing as what he did years ago - and really everybody else in the IT industry does and has been doing for years.  IT companies ripping off each other's ideas and then lawyering up is nothing new.

 

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Edited by KConan - 10/25/11 at 12:57am
post #247 of 358

Steve Jobs: The man who by stealing a ton a patents from Creative ensured that they never have to make another working product again, as long as people still buy iPods/iPhones.

 

And the big battle isn't Samsung/Apple it's Nokia/Apple and it's very clear cut Apple have stolen patents and are going to have to do the same thing all over again.

post #248 of 358

I don't know much about much...but what I do know is that coworkers and friends always complain about their Macs going back into the Apple Store for highway robbery-esque repair bills.....and that my currently-dead iPod was a $250 paperweight designed so poorly (or crassly) as to not even allow me the option to replace the battery on my own...not to mention the crap hard drive which seemed designed for failure just after warranty.

 

Meanwhile, I'm posting this reply on a 10-year old pc, which hasn't given me a lick of trouble. It sits beside a 4 year old pc, which has also been trouble-free. My Sansa mp3 players are still trucking along, after 7 and 2 years, respectively.

 

All the technology around me seems reliable and well-made, except for Apple products.

 

Seriously, I never understood the appeal of this company....other than the mentality of overpriced trendy technology. Apple products seem more destined for planned obsolescence, rather than for reliable, well-made mainstays. 

 

Sorry for my derail to your guys' current derail. Carry on.

post #249 of 358

In my experience Macs have been pretty amazing. Super well-made, virus-free, long lasting, reliable, etc. However they cost 3 times the price, and I'd rather have 3 PCs that are compatible with more programs, even if(in my experience) they last 1/3 as long. I loathe iTunes, but still dig iPods quite a bit. The irreplaceable battery is unforgivable though, literally half of my friends have/had at least one that won't hold a charge at all anymore. Yay anecdotal experience!

 

I've added nothing useful to this thread.

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In my experience Macs have been pretty amazing. Super well-made, virus-free, long lasting, reliable, etc. However they cost 3 times the price, and I'd rather have 3 PCs that are compatible with more programs, even if(in my experience) they last 1/3 as long. I loathe iTunes, but still dig iPods quite a bit. The irreplaceable battery is unforgivable though, literally half of my friends have/had at least one that won't hold a charge at all anymore. Yay anecdotal experience!

 

I've added nothing useful to this thread.


Well, allow me to join you, then.

 

I'm weirded out by the Jobs worship, but will admit to loving my iPod. I've had it for four years now and its battery lasts as long as it did when I first got it (about a week between recharging, and that's with about 1.5 hours of use per day).

 

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