While hunting for newsworthy items this morning, I came across an interesting piece by Variety blogger Tom McLean as to how the Superman theatrical franchise could be saved. Basically he’s saying that stories should be taken from the best runs on comics books. While that notion’s nothing new, he nonetheless highlights the work of Geoff Johns as the source from which inspiration for the next Supes flick should be derived.
So I’m flipping the script a little here. I’m giving you, the Chewers, the chance to fill me in a little on this. I know nothing about Geoff Johns’ work But like you, I want a Kryptonian version of The Dark Knight. I want a Superman movie worthy of the memory of Christopher Reeve. And say what you want, I’d like Brandon Routh to continue what he started. Bryan Singer is incidental in my book. So is this guy McLean onto something here?





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I think the All-Star Superman run of comics would translate well to film…even though it's yet another Lex Luther series, it would provide a nice sense of closure for Superman's story. There should be no films after that one, which could possibly be split up into two films, considering the journey to bizarro world and everything.
I agree that Routh should remain cast as Superman, and that they should reboot the mother. To me, the only interesting thing left about Superman is each new way he's reinvented for the modern audience, which has been occurring regularly since the beginning. We need a movie Superman for the 21st century. One without his underwear on the outside.
Just continue the story currently ongoing on tv's CW and bring most of the cast of "Smallville" to the big screen, creating a new trilogy involving Braniac (played by James Marsters) and Mxyzptlk (played by Verne Troyer). and Doomsday. It'd sell! Tom Welling looks more like a SUPER-MAN than that panty waist Routh & his acting has been excellent with each year as Clark Kent. Plus Erica Durance is hands down the BEST LOIS LANE EVER!!!!
Yeah keep ROUTH and SINGER, let them make a better sequel and let Mark Millar write it, Also use BRANIAC! If they are using a new slate let millar write it still, have braniac, show Lex Luthour as a 30's something who is just a buisness man that Metropolis loves but gets angry when SUPERMAN steels his thunder by defeating Braniac. I would love to see a SUPERMAN where people take him for granted and he becomes like an angry god, that would be cool.
I think Routh should stay but I see no need to reboot. For Your Eyes Only is a million miles away from Moonraker. Why not just make another Superman film with the same cast (mostly) and THAT music but work harder on the script to give us something that was lurking underneath much of Singer's film? Same cast, better story. Simple as. Routh really has something with the character, I think. A reboot could very well alienate the audience. There is no denying that Returns was made with a large degree of love – divert some of that love into a story with more oomph.
is that Singer's cum on his lips?
Smallville fans continue to baffle me.
I'm with you Bob. I can't for the life of me understand how you guys force that super-wad down your throats every week. I'm a huge fan of the man in tights and I can't take it. It's absolute garbage.
There was a really good interview in the new Comic Foundry where Mark Millar discusses his proposal of a Superman trilogy using the classic version of the character that sounded really interesting, and he loves, loves, LOVES the character. While he's become more known for his more adult-oriented stuff as of late, people forget that Millar used to write the comic series that spun out of the animated series, and that he can tell clean, accessible stories that aren't completely bogged down in continuity. I could care less about anything Johns writes, I'm not much of a DC guy in general, but I hear he's quite good at what he DOES write. The problem with the current Superman comics though is that no one really reads them. I still run into people all the time who remember that Superman was killed 15-16 years ago, but don't realize that he was back again within 6 months. I'm not saying that an adaptation of Johns' stuff would be bad, I honestly don't know if it would be or if it could be done, but you couldn't sell the story to moviegoers in the same way that you could push something if it were by Frank Miller or Alan Moore, guys who's work has had tons of mainstream attention in recent years. Oh, and whoever said it was a good idea to just continue Smallville, you have to realize that the same people that don't care about the show are the same people that likely aren't going to care that the cast of the show is being used in the movie. The audience for that show is relatively small anyway, so a theatrical version wouldn't have that big of a built-in audience. That's not saying that people wouldn't check it out anyway, but it would need to be such a simplified and streamlined version of the story to accommodate the people that HAVEN'T been watching the show for 7 years. If you go directly for the TV audience, you're jinxing it, as even a few million diehard fans (not that EVERYONE that watches it is even a diehard fan) do not equal big box office. Look at what happened to "X-Files".
Just read the latest run by Geoff Johns on Action Comics featuring his reinvention (reinterpretation is more correct) of Brainiac. This is the best plan.
I wouldn't be opposed to a reboot. I was kind of on the fence until The dark knight shat all over the notion of sticking with old franchises, though the original batman theme will be missed…
I agree with Lucas. All-Star Superman showcases everything great about the Man of Steel. If you know nothing about the character, this book could well make you an instant fan. On the flip side, if you are somehow familiar with the years and years of DC's (dis)continuity, then you may find all your favorite elements of the "Superman mythos" intact. I say it's easily one of Grant Morrison's best works, and Quitely's art is sublime.
I'm in favor of a reboot. Superman Returns was not a good film. Was it terrible? Not remotely. But it wasn't good, either.
I don't feel Singer should be involved, and I could care less about Routh. The next Superman needs to return to action. And it would be very nice if Luthor WASN'T in it (Spacey or any other actor playing Luthor).
They need something closer to Superman 2 at this point. And to be fair, Singer's Superman Returns wasn't nearly as bad as the Superman movies after Superman 2 – the biggest crime Singer committed was making an utterly forgettable and boring Superman movie.
Christopher Reeves, nit all that great.
I don't think they should even make any more Superman films unless it is a Superman VS. Batman film. Some Execs say they would make it if they furthered the Superman story and franchise, but to where? I think Superman in itself is a dead concept for these years and generation. No one wants someone who is invincible except for some rocks that weaken him or turn him bad or whatever. I think making another would be just beating a dead horse. Just end it now before everyone hates the character. As you can tell, I'm close to the edge. Basically, you can't force this, wait another decade if need be. Or go to the extreme, kill him, have him come back as that energy thing, or do the Justice League. Any other story is just peeing in the wind. A character with that much power needs a giant fish bowl of story, otherwise the next movie will just be another Smallville episode. Out of all the forms of Media Superman has taken, I enjoyed the Saturday morning cartoon the best. That Sega video game wasn't too bad either with the death of Superman. Make it if it is absolutely perfect, don't wing it and don't force it.
Am I the only onr who saw what singer was setting up in returns? New krypton, his son? Is was the perfect set up for the eradicator, which if you take him, bring in brainiac, and you got one hell of a battle for supes. Eradicator attacking jason while brainiac goes after metropolis….. Singer would have knocked it out of the park. Xmen wasn't that great, but x2 rocked, and made xmen look better. All you people begging for a new supes by a new director, look at x3, that is what we will get…. Singer set the characters up, has the visual Style, let him continue, the movie made 200 million, which is a ton, it wasn't his fault the wb waisted tons of cash before him….
,ick… Don't take this personally, but did you read a super-secret script that Singer had written with plans for how he was going to follow up Superman Returns? Seriously – it's just conjecture on your part. And I'd be shocked if Singer had much more of a light outline of what he'd do if he did a sequel. Maybe Singer could come back and make a sequel that was far better than Superman Returns. Personally (my opinion) – I felt his aim was completely off with Superman Returns, and that's why I'd like to see someone else try.
I like Johns' recent run on ACTION, but as far as new movies go, I think I'd prefer an adaptation of Joe Kelly's What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and The American Way?" (or at least a film that should establish why Superman is important; something Returns never did) and then a two-part (or single movie) adaptation of Grant Morrison All-Star Superman. Routh was better than I expected, but I think the take on Supes in All-Star Superman requires someone older, or at least, someone who conveys a bit more maturity and gravitas.
New director and I vote yes for keeping Routh. I think he did a great job. He just needs something to punch!
the problem is that even Johns run whilst maybe the best canonical run, isn't even that great. too much adhering to the donner movies. his run on Green Lantern however. That is your Green Lantern movie right there.
I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about the comics, but I do know that if they do a reboot, they need to recast. That would just be weird w/ all the same people doing a new origin story, which they kind of touched on in Superman Returns. Perhaps it could be something like the Incredible Hulk where it's more like a new direction on where the characters were at.
Superman needs to be done period. An adaptation of Tom De Haven's "It's Superman!" would be preferable, but at the very least I would like to see his powers toned down to the old "faster than…able to leap"…blah blah blah… If it had the tone of Simon Wincer's "the Phantom",but slightly more poignant, it would be perfect.
,ick, Singer actually stated he wanted to have Jude Law come in as General Zod and essentially remake Superman II for the sequel to Returns. His interest in Superman extends to playing with the movies he liked as a child, and no further. He is not a comics fan. He'd never read X-Men before getting that job either, remember? And my vote for Superman is for a total reboot at some future date with a writer and director who have a passion for the character and an understanding of his history and all past incarnations.
I say if they're doing a reboot pull from the animated series. Redo the stuff on Krypton dump the whole uninhabitable crystal Krypton bullshit from the original movies and go with something lush yet alien. Make BRAINIAC the villain of the the first flick with him being a Kryptonian AI that contradicts Jor-El's claims of Krypton's destruction due to his self preservation.
Once the whole Krypton exploding, Kal-El being sent to earth, BRAINIAC escaping stuff happens, pull an Incredible Hulk and blast through his arrival, childhood, training and eventual arrival in Metropolis as Superman in a little 2 minute montage/credits sequence. Introduce Lex as a supporting character with possibilties of villainy later, but don't make him the main bad. Maybe make him a smaller player in the business world but the discovery of a piece of BRAINIAC after supes has cleaned his clock allows him to reverse engineer it and launches LEXCORP to be a major tech corp by the 2nd flick.
Geoff Johns is a fairly solid comics writer in terms of content and style and what have you; his work on Infinite Crisis, discounting all the spin-off bullshit, is imho up there with Denny O'Neill and Marv Wolfman. My only criticism of him is that whilst he's a good technical writer, creatively he can be a little stiff; he's done good team-up writing with Dave Goyer and Dick Donner on flagship titles, but he seemed much more at home with his run on Teen Titans.
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